#tengrist

[a-child-of-chaos906]

Thing about Tengrism I love is there is almost no canon, the only two I know are Tengri is superior, Deity or forse, and to follow it's philosophy of being kind.

I know six creation myths. And they all are true. It depends on region. I heard more turkish version with Ak Ana, more mongolian with Ulgen and Erlik. In my region Tengri was born out of the egg. And they are all right.

I didn't know about Erlik or Ulgen until I started to talk with other Tengrist. They didn't know about my local belief, that Sun and Moon are Tengri's eyes. There is no right pantheon. There could be Gods in one region that don't exist in others. I found it beautiful.

Umay Ana has different roles in different regions. On one land She is Goddess of fertility and virginity. In others She is only Earth. In others She is Goddess of children. She is all of it, even if in other communities some of it do not acknowledge.

Tengri is seen as Deity to some, or forse, the world itself for others and they are all right.

I really like that there is no dogma. That you should to figure it out yourself, what is the best for you. With talking to others. Because there is so little left. Mongolian Tengrism, Turkish Tengrism, Kazakh Tengrism, Siberian Tengrism and many more, they all has differences, but the core is Tengri. And, at the end of the day, you need to find, what is the most appealing to you.

Gods, I fucking love Tengrism.

[adedicatedcommenter]

These are from an conferense talk about Turkic woman and their place in old world. It was truly beautiful listening History professors from İ.Ü talk about it.

I would most likely go again if i could (⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

[mwagneto]

guy on tv giving a speech in honour of the country's 1024th birthday and he said we have to honour/learn from/follow szent istván's example???????? you heard it here first. abandon your religion, change your name, kill your uncle

[meirimerens]

you know i must have been bone-tired when this part of the herb brides lore didn't come to my mind when i discussed how the Kin fundamentally differs from the cultures it is inspired by um There Is The Human Sacrifice part. like it's an important part of pathologic 2 that you are doing human, or anthropomorphic (if you want to see the Herb Brides as closer to spirits, which comes with its own set of problematics regarding how to approach their oppression) sacrifice. it's an important part of pathologic 2 that you kill a woman, as part of the journey and in direct resonance with you ritualistically killing cattle earlier, and she offers herself to you with cultural and religious significance.

human sacrifices have been done across the globe for millennia, but i cannot, for the life of me, find any source at all that mentions the Buryats (since that was the discussion point) partaking in human sacrifices by the turn of the 19th-early 20th century (or even anything past the 16th). every single source mentioning offerings and sacrifices i've read mentions animals, things such as milk and vodka, and often both at once. would love to read anything about these rituals if papers exist, but i'm personally drawing a blank.

the Kin has Obvious and very Visible influences but it also differs from specific (in this discussion's case, the Buryats) or wider (here, turkic/mongolic as a whole) cultures from the area by so many pieces, big and small, that i wouldn't have enough appendages on my whole body to count them all. and sister. i have plenty of appendages.

[freedomfromwar-pigs]

Nobody:

Me smoking a perfectly respectable amount of meth:

[tengritexas]

People have seen the blue sky but have never seen Tengri

Old man: whats a Tengri?

Me: Well Im a Tengrist I believe in the eternal blue sky

Old man: an eternal blue sky? What about night time?

Me: *points to the sky* he is always there and he is always with me and I with him

Old man: *never had thought of it that way* :o

True story and probably the wildest silence for like 10 seconds

[irithnova]

If any central Asians or Mongolians could answer. Is it possible for someone who's not from/a part of that culture/country/ethnic group at all (I'm talking white American) to seriously call themselves a tengrist? Not that I'm planning on doing that but I stumbled upon a blog of a white American person claiming to be a tengrist and the entire blog already made me feel kind of iffy because it was one of those neopagan wicca types - which are communities rife with cultural appropriation and general ignorance and entitlement to closed practices. Maybe I'm the ignorant one because I'm unsure if tengrism is a closed practice but tengrism does seem highly influenced by culture + ancestors and doesn't seem as universal as something like Christianity.

It seems more like a folk religion which is a product of and highly tied to the culture(s) of origin and the lifestyle people of those cultures live so I do find it quite odd that a white American is calling themselves a Tengrist? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Again maybe the skepticism was born somewhat of my distrust and distaste of wicca and neopagan types because of the aforementioned behaviours people in those communities participate in

[jakey-beefed-it]

How normal is like, 'casual blasphemy' in other cultures? Like culturally Christian people obviously are plenty fond of muttering "Jesus fucking Christ" or what have you under their breath, provided they're at least moderately secular. Hell, I'm as secular as it gets (atheist, raised agnostic) and I find myself saying similar all the time. It's just part of the larger culture.

And obviously no culture is a monolith, there are plenty of people who would object rather strenuously to that sort of thing, but for the most part, it's fairly common in my experience.

And I find myself wondering, are there comparable expressions in other cultures with different dominant religions? Buddhists, Muslims, Taoists, Shintoists, Tengrists, Zoroastrians? From what I know about most Jewish culture at least that sort of thing would generally not fly among religious sorts any more than you'd expect a Catholic nun to say even "Jesus, Mary and Joseph!" under most circumstances, but there are plenty of very secular Jewish folks.

Just musing to myself, and finding my knowledge inadequate to answer the question.

[a-small-writer-in-a-big-world]

I came across to the requests given to you and I couldn't hold myself back... I hope you're not tired of these but HOW ABOUT A TURKISH READER WITH 141 BOYS? I'm dying to see your hcs about this. Thank you whether you do it or not 💕💕💕 (little note: reader is a tengrist not a muslim)

Sure thing! Lmk if I get anything wrong. I never get tired of these

Turkish!reader with the 141

They all admire how you move through life with gracefulness.

They're not exactly the most conventional crowd to be around so sometimes Soap will try to get you to let loose when things have been getting pretty stressful

Your loyalty to them doesn't go unnoticed and Ghost has come to find out that he can rely on you

Sometimes they get worried when you're willing to do anything for them so they make sure to tell you that it's okay for you to turn down doing some things when it's not an order

But they know that if they really need your help, it's okay for them to ask you

They will be interested to learn about you being a tengrist and will ask questions about what it is exactly

They will also accommodate for you if you need it

Price will do as much as he can to let you speak with your family when the time allows it

They will definitely make an effort to visit you and Gaz is more than happy to follow you anywhere when you're showing him around

A/N: So sorry this took so long and that it's short! I hope you like it

[corvidcrybaby]

AT LONG LAST I can upload this reference image of Erzsebet Bathori. This was a long project bc I'm still getting used to my new tablet but I'm generally okay with how this came out. Not quite enough safety pins or needles or stitches, but it's close enough. Note the Tengrist symbol on her back with the Hungarian Native Faith initials.

[beloved-of-storms-and-sands]

Welcome to by blog.

Добро пожаловать в мой блог.

Greetings and welcome. You can call me Sha, Nomad or Outsider, depending how you prefer. This is my religious sideblog, where I post and reblog things connected to religion, spirituality, magic, occult and esoteric. You can consider it as my e-shrine.

I am omnist, pantheist and animist. I identify myself as Setit/Setian and Chaosit. My main focus is on Set, Sha, and Their unlimited faces and aspects. My path in life and magic is Chaos, and it's unlimited forms, as well as Darkness, Art and Nature. My practice and path are made up of parts of many different and varied paths, creating my own, unique one.

I am devotee of: Set/Sutekh, Sha, Erebos, Umay Ana, Eilistraee, spirits of Snake and Deepsea Anglerfish.

I honour: Tartaros, Nyx, all Her and Erebos children, Kaos, tengrist Gods, Vhaeraun, Selvetarm, all Set's family and wifes, including Set's possible children.

As time will pass, my path will inevitably change, someone will come and go, something will replace what I have now.

This blog is on russian, with rare posts on english. It will always remain this way.

Приветствую и добро пожаловать. Вы можете называть меня Ша, Кочевник или Аутсайдер/Отверженный, в зависимости от того, что вам больше нравится. Это мой религиозный блог, где я публикую и ребложу вещи, связанные с религией, духовностью, магией, оккультизмом и эзотерикой. Можете считать это место моим электронным святилищем.

Я омнист, пантеист и анимист. Я идентифицирую себя как Сетит/Сетиан и Хаосит. Мое основное внимание сосредоточено на Сете, Ша и Их безграничных ликах и аспектах. Мой путь в жизни и магии — Хаос и его безграничные формы, а также Тьма, Искусство и Природа. Моя практика и путь состоят из частей самых разных и разнообразных путей, создавая мой собственный, уникальный.

Я последователь: Сета/Сутеха, Ша, Эреба, Умай Ана, Эйлистри, духов Змеи и Глубоководного удильщика.

Я чту: Тартара, Нюкту, всех Её и Эреба детей, Каос, тенгрианских Богов, Ваэрона, Селветарма, всю семью и жён Сета, а также Его возможных детей.

С течением времени мой путь будет неизбежно меняться, кто-то придёт и уйдёт, что-то заменит то, что я имею сейчас.

Этот блог русский, с редкими постами на английском. Так будет всегда.

[thenuclearmallard]

"There are at least 194 nationalities living in Russia

40 of those are indigenous minority nations of the North

Among others are the Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Avars…

In the last Census, 25 millions of Russians have self-identified as a nationality other than Russian

This number has been only increasing since the dissolution of the USSR

Only then did the unrecognised nationalities acquired the right to self-determination

Russia includes 24 national republics with a titular nation other than Russian

Together, they cover the territory of more than that of India, the seventh biggest world country

Russia is home to 14 groups of languages and more than 180 languages in total

This is not including the languages which have gone extinct in the 20th century due to the “Russification” policies

There are 37 languages, apart from Russian, which have the status of official republican languages

Many of the languages of Russia, including some official ones, are also at the brink of extinction and disregarded by the state

Less than half of the citizens of Russia identify as Christians

Russia is home to Muslims, religious Jews, Tengrists, Buddhists, shamanistic and pagan believers

Tengrianism, for example, which is widely spread in the Respublic of Sakha, was only officially recognised by the state in 2014

Many of the Indigenous and minority nationalities of Russia became a part of the country by force

The Russian Empire has colonised the territories of Caucasus and Siberia, and beyond

The Soviet Union has attempted to “assimilate” and erase most of the colonised nationalities

And now the Indigenous people of Russia are disproportionately targeted as recruits for a criminal war against Ukraine

Russia is much more than just one nation

Russia is much more than matryoshkas and samovars

Indigenous and minority nations of Russia have been fighting for recognition for centuries

We want to be known in Russia and outside of it for what we are - and not what you think a “typical Russian” should look like

We want to be heard and seen"

[tanadrin]

having jesus sex in a christian fashion,

islamicate sucking and fucking is my passion,

pull out my kama sutra and get to hindu smashin

and my atheist sex? why it's supremely ration—

—al.

push and pull.

zoroastrian fuckin cause I'm good and evil.

(stuck my gnostic cock up a manicheans pee hole)

oh babe are you duhkha cause i've got an earthly desire

to snuggle up to you next to the funerary pyre

now don't run off, I've got plenty of rhymes

we could be tengrist fucking on the steppe sublime

you know occultic fascist mystics make my train run on time.

went over seas, out to far off japan

had some shinto sex with a salaryman

it was ok but it didn't hold a candle

to my "flowery wars" with some tenochtitlan hole

did some sikh fuckin out in maharashtra

had catholic sex and then we ate some pasta

oh and jewish boning, how could I forget?

she could couldn't work on the sabbath so I just sloppied her shit

now there's a whole bunch of other so I'll try to do 'em fast

had baha'í sex with my báb's fat ass

did some santería sex on the island of cuba

then did some neopagan doinking in the woods fully nude, ya

and that's about all i have the time to discuss moment

but if you've got a religion, then you can expect me to bone it

how long did you spend on this anon

[eruverse]

More characterization and headcanons: religion/faith

So I looked up a bit of Tengrism, mayhap what unifies steppe people more than language ever could as this is tightly connected to the steppe life and culture, and considering now Central Asias to Turkey are mostly Muslims and most Mongolians are Buddhist, I thought to myself like… do steppe people feel that their heart ‘branches out’ in two directions?

In a way like, I’m gonna speak a bit about myself now, but for typical Javanese people pure (sharia) Islam has a feel of ‘foreignness’ in it. We traditionally have our own faith system; we began as Animists, then when Hinduism and Buddhism came we absorbed them into our faith. The result was some kind of syncretism and we’re actually good at it; the Javanese traditionally think that all God(s) are the same you know, doesn’t matter what religion it is. The truth of all religions, the absolute God in them, is basically the same. That’s why we readily syncretize everything. When Islam came on much later, it was the same. We syncretized further and it resulted in a faith system that was a mix of Animism, folk faith, folk Islam, sufi mysticism, Hindu-Buddhist influences etc. I regard this as a traditional way of the Javanese.

Today, we’re all more religious in a sharia way. I think everyone knows how zealous ‘pure sharia’ Muslims can be, well, basically. Abrahamic peoples lol. For me personally tho, even as Muslim, this form feels pretty foreign. And no, I don’t rly believe that sharia is the only way to be a proper Muslim. Just like a typical Muslim I feel in my heart Muslim brotherhood and sisterhood with Muslims from all over, and I feel fondness for sharia Islam as well, but in the end it’s pretty foreign.

I wonder if all steppe people feel a similar thing deep in their heart in regards to Tengrism or even the more syncretic form of faith, and the ‘pure’ version of religions they adopted later. Central Asia is notoriously known for not being Muslim enough and it’s not just due to Communism; the people there were largely nomadic, and nomadic way of life is not very compatible with Islam even if Central Asian nomads have been Muslim since centuries before. Even when people started being settled, they were still at best nominally Muslim. Of course not all countries in Central Asia are the same in religiosity: Uzbeks and Tajiks are generally regarded as most religious, but they were settled, and they are I think most experienced with sufism. I don’t know how Buddhist Mongolia is because I can’t really check myself, but Buddhism might be more compatible with nomadic life/Tengrism and is thus able to accommodate it? Though the few random videos I watched about average people there don’t seem to be much having Buddhist influences (according to what I know about the religion). I’ll endeavor to research more lol.

In regards of my OCs though (Mongolia included), I try my best to match them with their collective people, but in the end they’re also individuals and they might not necessarily reflect their own people at large. Like, basically sometimes I just give up on matching them and pick up certain traits that I think suit them as individuals, not just as the soul of their nations lol. I create OCs mainly to practice on designing and storytelling skill, and less about being a purist nerd.

Mongolia deeply respects and is fond of Buddhism, but he personally is closer to his traditional Tengrism than pure Buddhism. He doesn’t really care what religious label he’s put under tho. As far as he’s concerned, he’s just a nomad and he follows traditions and values that make most sense to his way of life.

Golden Horde was also still largely Tengrist even when his princes and princesses became Muslim. When Islam became the state religion of Golden Horde during the time of Uzbek Khan he might say he was a Muslim, but in the end he still stuck to his traditions as a pure nomad.

Kazakhstan sways between more-Muslim and less-Muslim sometimes. If asked he will probably say that ‘I am a Muslim, BUT—‘. He’s also still quite unfamiliar with many Muslim practices as it is. Does seek God tho when he’s really depressed (alcohol first tho. That’s haram).

Uzbekistan is a proud Muslim, also dabbles in theology and scholarly stuff, and is a student under sufi masters. Might have been some kind of smooth rebel sometimes under Communist era (Uz might look soft and friendly, but he is actually very firm at heart).

[meirimerens]

the pathologic Kin is largely fictionalized with a created language that takes from multiple sources to be its own, a cosmogony & spirituality that does not correlate to the faiths (mostly Tengrist & Buddhist) practiced by the peoples it takes inspirations from, has customs, mores and roles invented for the purposes of the game, and even just a style of dress that does not resemble any of these peoples', but it is fascinating looking into specifically to me the sigils and see where they come from... watch this:

P2 Layers glyphs take from the mongolian script:

while the in-game words for Blood, Bones and Nerves are mongolian directly, it is interesting to note that their glyphs do not have a phonetic affiliation to the words (ex. the "Yas" layer of Bones having for glyph the equivalent of the letter F, the "Medrel" layer of Nerves having a glyph the equivalent of the letter È,...)

the leatherworks on the Kayura models', with their uses of angles and extending lines, remind me of the Phags Pa Script (used for Tibetan, Mongolian, Chineses, Uyghur language, and others)

some of the sigils also look either in part or fully inspired by Phags Pa script letters...

some look closer to the mongolian or vagindra (buryat) script

looking at the Herb Brides & their concept art, we can see bodypainting that looks like vertical buryat or mongolian script (oh hi (crossed out: Mark) Phags Pa script):

shaped and reshaped...

[tropylium]

recent "cultural Christianity" thread going around; I'm not bothering to figure out which branch of it to reblog but I just want to point out that a fun response to the whole "actually atheists of Christian background are still Christians" sphiel is to keep going. Iraqi "Muslims" are actually still Christians, Central Asian "Muslims" are actually still Tengrists, Scandinavian "Christians" are actually still Odinists, Persians of any religion are actually still Zoroastrians, etc etc.