#terri minksy

[flufffysocks]

would any of the 3.5 people left in the andi mack fandom be interested in a mini analysis of the show’s soft worldbuilding?

[multimetaverse]

Terri Minsky has been removed as Lizzie McGuire showrunner after Disney decided to go in a different direction after the first two eps were filmed and production is on hiatus until a new showrunner is found. Deadline reports that Terri's creative deal with Disney Channel and Disney + is still in place

[biandnotreadytotry]

This is like two days two late apparently, but I guess Terri Minsky is no longer a part of the Lizzie Mcguire revival 🤔

I have nothing to contribute other than being kind of bummed about it, bc I was hoping she'd bring some of that AM ingenuity to LM, but tbh now I'm curious as to how much that'll change the show.

[thirteen-beaxhes]

Thank you Andi Mack. I'm not ready to say goodbye just yet.

[spiderninja1]

Thank You Andi Mack

So that this doesn’t get lost in the endless sea tomorrow, I thought I’d make a little thank you post for some of the people who made this series so wonderful.

Oh, and @joshua-rush, if you’re reading this, feel free to send this to the others.

Peyton Elizabeth Lee, thank you for playing Andi Mack. Our titular Asian-American protagonist who has a heart as big as her creativity. A character with one of the craziest, yet lovable family trees imaginable.

Some great plot lines she has starred in include, of course, her messed up family tree. It’s come a long way from Season 1, where we get to see her family come together, fall apart, but come back together in the end. A couple of episodes centered around her Chinese heritage, providing us with an idea of tradition and culture for Chinese people. Her relationships have unfortunately gotten the short end of the stick, but it compensates for her many creative and rebellious acts. To name a few, she was the one who started the dress code protest, as well as the Mint Chip clothing store garage sale. She also broke the huge Asian stereotype with her arts and crafts mural, which (hopefully) got her into SAVA.

Well-Known Ships: Jonah, Amber, Walker

Sofia Wylie, thank you for playing Buffy Driscoll. Headstrong, yet fierce, you’ve helped to show young women, especially women of color, across the world that they have more potential than they realize, and that the right motivation is all they need to be the best person they can.

Honorable plot lines include her moving story, which to be honest, had a bit of a lackluster ending. But it still gave younger kids a glimpse that not all people are lucky like that, so close connections may be lost when someone leaves. Of course, connecting to that is the military mother plot, where Buffy finally reunites with her mom, who had been deployed at sea. But in my opinion, her best plot line had to have been her entire sports career, and how she went from a bossy and competitive player to a supportive team captain.

Well-Known Ships: Marty, Walker

Joshua Rush, thank you for playing Cyrus Goodman. Jewish, gay, but most importantly, loyal best friend. You’ve inspired many LGBT kids to come out to their loved ones (myself, included), and taught them that they are no different to anyone else.

His plots were some of the most mature, but most important ones of all. To get the big one out of the way, there’s his gay storyline, where he comes out to his closest friends, and shows his true colors. Next up is the Jewish-centered episodes, giving us diversity in something that isn’t truly physical. We see him evolve during his bar-mitzvah, and during his grandma’s Shiva. Both times give us an accurate representation of Jewish beliefs, culture, and tradition. Of course, who could forget the gun plot, which gave kids a very important lesson on gun safety, and that it’s important to understand the dangers of unsafe handling. 

Well-Known Ships: TJ, Jonah, Iris (I had to mention her somewhere. She honestly deserved better)

Asher Angel, thank you for playing Jonah Beck. A bit oblivious, but still a great friend, an amazing musician, and our favorite Space Otter (aside from Gus).

The one that blew everyone away, not only because of it’s surprise reveal, but because of how it continued on for multiple episodes, was the panic attack plot. It gave kids with anxiety someone to relate to, and how even though it’s scary, there are ways that can help you overcome it. The bankrupt family one had a really long buildup (about ten episodes from 3x02), but they at least kind of brought it back with a few updates on the whole situation. As of right now, the Becks are in their own home, and hopefully, it stays that way. And finally, whilst not important, there were the many, many, MANY storylines revolving around Jonah’s (failed) dating life. Just look at the ship list for him!

Well-Known Ships: Andi, Cyrus, Amber, Libby (One ship is gay, two ships had good development, three ships were canon, all four ships start with J)

Lilan Bowden, thank you for playing Bex Mack. Two completely different sides. One is rebellious, while the other is loving. 

Honorable storylines included her family connections. We get to see her become more involved in Andi’s life, regrow her love with Bowie, and fix broken ties with Cece. She got to open up her own makeup store, she finally got over her ex, Gabriel. Now, after some hardships, she’s gotten married to our one and only Bowie. 

Well-Known Ships: Bowie, Miranda (Before Miranda became a snake)

Trent Garrett, thank you for playing Bowie Quinn, who is now Bowie Mack. Our rocking dad figure with a love for those closest to him. 

His story started when he came into Andi’s life and immediately tried becoming a better father figure towards her. He reconnected with Bex, and became a guitar teacher at the music store. There were a few episodes where he was with Miranda, but that ship has sunken, because Bex is his one true love.

Well-Known Ships: Bex, Miranda

Lauren Tom, thank you for playing Celia Mack. Our favorite non-grandma grandma, whose a little arrogant, but still a supportive family member of the Macks.

Her storylines are more of the supportive role, as one of her only main plot included the house selling one with Ham. However, she does play a larger role in the Chinese storylines, as she naturally has more knowledge of their traditions. Regardless, she has still evolved over the course of this series, and I’m glad she’s still here until the end.

Well-Known Ships: Ham (Yes, I mentioned him. The character was still good, even if the actor was not) 

Emily Skinner, thank you for playing Amber (last name unknown). Mean or nice, she has made her way into our hearts as one of our favorite characters.

Amber was always more of the jealous antagonist towards Andi. But as time went on, she became a better person and even one of Andi’s greatest allies. She also grew closer with Jonah, even after their breakup(s), because of their connection with families with money problems. She also grew closer with Cyrus and Buffy, though those two had less development with her. And because of her, I now know what a rage cage is.

Well-Known Ships: Jonah, Andi

Garren Lake, thank you for playing Marty from the Party. A recurring character at most, but everyone was glad to see you return in the final season.

Marty was always a support to Buffy, and he never really got much development with anyone else. There was that small moment where he dated Rachel. He’s a talented runner, and a good friend. I wish there was more to say about his character, but running and Muffy was kind of all he was known for.

Well-Known Ships: Buffy

Luke Mullen, thank you for playing TJ Kippen. Our sporty gay boy who has evolved from mean captain to soft buddy.

Even as a recurring character, TJ has been a great addition to the cast. His storyline of being gay hasn’t been mentioned yet, as of right now, but he’s earned quite the reputation of being the T in our Tyrus ship. But enough about that, he has great storylines with Buffy as well, growing close bonds with her as a friend, and with her helping him when he found out about his dyscalculia. 

Well-Known Ships: Cyrus, Buffy (that was more of an Instagram ship, though)

Raquel Justice, thank you for playing Kira. The character we all love to hate. It’s a shame you weren’t with us longer, but you’ve been amazing for the time being.

Kira’s plot were more Buffy and Cyrus based. She started off as kind of past Buffy in the present. Competitive and arrogant. Then she caught TJ and became a slight Cyrus rival. Good to mention that Amber, Andi’s rival, got redeemed. Buffy’s rival, TJ, also got redeemed. So here’s hoping that our Cyrus rival also gets a small redemption in the finale, even if it’s a minor one.

Well-Known Ships: N/A (Though Cyrus thought she was with TJ)

Anson Bagley, thank you for playing Gus. He’s always been someone we loved, even if he was only here for decades at a time. 

Gus was our favorite support character. He’s part of student court, he started a lunch riot when there were A and B groups,and he’s an honorary space otter. Not much else can be said, except that he’s quirky and awkward. For that, he’s one of our favorites.

Well-Known Ships: N/A (Unless you count the millions of crackships)

And finally, we have the best for last. Thank you Terri Minsky, for creating the show we all know and love. I never saw Lizzie McGuire as a kid, and now that I’m a teen, it’s nice to have an idea of what kind of show that was. You’ve broken so many stereotypes with your show, and I’m hoping you make something great for the next generation. 

I remember joining this after season 1 had ended, and I binged the entire season because it was just too good. Andi Mack is my favorite show, and I’m sad it’s now over, but regardless, it was the best thing I could ever watch. It seems like Disney is making a comeback with good shows (mainly cartoons), but I’m excited to see what they make next.

[thoughts-of-a-bibleophile]

ANDI MACK THE SHOW OMG

WOW I

Just....I turn on Disney channel to watch Wizards of Waverly Place reruns and then this adorable kid comes on to do the Disney wooshy wand in-between ads thing and then this show called Andi Mack comes on and these kids are adorable af aND THEY TEASE WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A GIRL LIKING ANOTHER GIRL.

They actually just wanted to hang out and sleepover but STILL

I ENDED UP LOOKING UP THE SHOW AND THERE'S A CANON GAY CHARACTER AND WOW

I JUST

WOW

I AM SO PROUD OF DISNEY CHANNEL

And the show is actually pretty good, too. The show creator Terri Minsky was on Lizzie McGuire, so I guess the good writing should have been expected and...

This is just so cool and also these kids are adorable af and I wish I had been as cute and fashionable as them when I was their age.

[heart-eyes-kippen]

it’s getting emotional over how comforting it would’ve been for young sarah to see tj and cyrus on a disney show portrayed so casually while she was constantly stressing over/struggling with not liking boys and spending nights laying awake thinking about how she was alone hours ya’ll 🤪

[jewishraypalmer]

That promo of TJ and Cyrus sitting on the bench while TJ asks if there's anything he wants to tell him wow gay rights.

[heyoricohannah]

Am I the only one that thinks there should be an Andi Mack episode addressing periods?

I mean, there was already that iconic joke in the pilot, so...

[connors-markus]

imagine this. it’s a friday night. it’s the last episode of andi mack for good. it’s the final tyrus scene; the bench scene. tj sits cyrus down. “i’ve had a crush on buffy for so long,” tj says, finally admitting it. the screen goes black. terri minksy did us dirty.

[27emailsicantsend]

I JUST WATCHED THE FINALE AND OH MY GOSH MY HEAD IS SPINNING I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS

I’ll give you my quick thoughts and then jump into Muffy because you already KNOW I am saving a whole section for them

Celia’s growth was amazing. I love that she went from being strict to being so carefree and trusting of Bex

Bex in that wedding dress 👏🏻 Bowie in that Tux 👌🏻 like they didn’t have to do that but they did 😭

The slow dance was SO CUTE OMG

I loved that all of them sang lady Gaga- the song was perfect for them but sad Garren wasn’t on stage with Sofia

However, they showed the ships singing together and whenever they showed Buffy they showed Marty so I was like 😩😭👏🏻 ya know

TJ playing the piano was all I could have asked for

I LOVED the scene when Cyrus and Buffy talked about “relationship woes” like wow. 😭😍 that hurt because the parrallels were so blatantly obvious but Terri made sure to take EQUAL time to explain their woes with each character.

Also WTF KIRA STOP TOUCHING TJ AND PUTTING YOUR ARM ON HIM. This has been my PSA

I LOVED watching TJ just RIP into Kira. Boi 👏🏻 told 👏🏻 her 👏🏻 off. He literally called her out for bullying and asked her to stop (likkkeeee not only was it great bc he was protective boyfriend mode™️ but because he showed growth. He defended Cyrus for something he used to do). It was great and a no Kira redemption was the best way they could have done that and it was was beautiful. 💯

I loved that Jandi scene! I have said I am actually ok with Jandi, but they needed more maturity. Andi needed to find herself and Jonah needed to be ready for a relationship. In time and when Andi can handle conflict, I think they would make a good pairing. But WITH TIME, like they said. Until then, Jonah has the cute bracelet. I think that was such a valuable lesson for kids to not rush something, just because you like someone. Make sure you are actually ready because crushes aren’t all just about endgames (which will sound hypocritical considering what I write next lol) but that they are a LOT of work and you have to have your head on correct to make sure you can handle it. Just *chef’s kiss*

I know Muffy was around this time (sorry my thoughts are so scattered- I am writing this post watching it so not everything is in a congruent timeline) but I am going to come back to them like I said earlier. They have a special reserved™️ section in this post 😍👏🏻

THE B[REDACTED]H SCENE. WAS SO CUTE. UGH

I laughed so hard at TJ’s name but gave all my uwu’s I had left post Muffy (which weren’t many but I reserved some for Tyrus) to that cute little line from Cyrus about how he liked his name 😭

That 👏🏻 hand 👏🏻 hold 👏🏻

Like watching TJ’s shaky fingers get all close I COULDN’T BREATHE-

They really out here making all benches gay huh?

And you could see how SHY TJ was talking to Cyrus. It was so sweet how flirty and awkward he got. I loved it.

I’m sure their hands were v sweaty but that’s a point for another day lol

I thought the scene was handled well considering their limits and tried to keep my expectations low, but TBH I was pretty bummed they didn’t actually say the words that they liked each other. I wish there was more dialogue than vague questions ya know? Oh well 🤷🏼‍♀️

I was also really REALLY hoping for some canon Muffy and Tyrus scenes at the party and kept checking the time stamp during the last scene hoping they would show SOMETHING but they didn’t say anything. Even just a quick “Hey I’m dating this person now and I love them all my uwu’s” would have been fine but it was like that was completely forgotten

However I’ve seen a few Tumblr posts about someone working on making fic text posts with the GHC talking about their canon ships so I’ll take what I can get :)

The Andi Shack and Andi getting into SAVA didn’t surprise me, but it was sweet

I really liked the whole side by side photo thing they did

What did surprise me was Jonah saying he loved Andi 😭 like that was such a sweet sentiment and I was just like, “Alexa play I Cried by Jonah Beck” you know?

Kinda also dissapointed we heard nothing more about Jonah’s panic attack’s, the hole in the wall, and possible Kippen Siblings

REALLY REALLY want an Andi Mack movie- they made a Lizzie McGuire one after only two seasons so they could with AM to address any plot holes (BUT IF THEY DO IT THEY BETTER HAVE CANON MUFFY AND TYRUS JOIN SO HELP ME BC MIRANDA WAS GONE IN TLMM AND I WAS READY TO SHOW HANDS)

Also other side note: I got kinda frustrated with all of the dancing/singing scenes. Like they were cute but also felt like a lot of wasted screen time (much like 3x19 or the Jonah/Cyrus camping scenes) when other plots could have been addressed

And no speaking lines for Amber? At all? Like...? Even with the Jonah stuff? Or redemption paralleling TJ. IDK seemed a lil wack to me

Ok here’s the good stuff

Muffy:

Again, Alexa play “I Cried” by Jonah Beck BECAUSE OH MY GOSH THEY WERE MY EVERYTHING

Surprisingly didn’t cry as much as 3x14 but I think that’s because I was shaking so bad (seriously I looked like I just went through a terrifying haunted house and stayed overnight in it, my hand trembling so much)

I rewatched the scenes WHICH ONLY MADE IT WORSE BECAUSE I CRIED MORE

I enjoyed writing my fics, but really really liked the way Terri handled this

I loved all of their scenes dancing together and it was funny because after Cyrus and Buffy talked, Buffy was like, “he doesn’t like me” but then Marty spent the ENTIRE night like RIGHT NEXT TO BUFFY. Not with the other girl. Literally physical space is not a real thing with them. Watch when they dance, or when they see CeCe in the Dino costume or any other time, Buffy and Marty are ONLY next to each other and Marty even moves closer to Buffy when they are all huddled around CeCe if you watch closely enough

The frog parallel? 😭👌🏻

Buffy addressing Marty instead of the other way around? 😭👌🏻

Marty “what’s going on?” 😭👌🏻

I loved when Marty called himself a dope 😂👏🏻 13/10 sweet boi

Also, watching Buffy get worked up because they can’t have a real conversation I’m 😭😭😭 you could see actual tears in her eyes and THEN GIRL WENT RUNNING OUTSIDE FOR SOME FRESH AIR

AND GUESS WHO CHASES AFTER HER- I’M—- UGHHHHHH I’m getting worked up thinking about it tbh

Marty tries the conversation again and she SAYS SHE LIKES HIM. NO HESItation what kind of ROMANCE—

Heidenjfbdhewiejdkdk

And then it was literal poetic cinema when he said he NEVER STOPPED LIKING HER AFTER THAT AWKWARD PAUSE AND GRABBED HER HANDS

It was so SOft-

And then they KISSED AND IT WAS REAL

I got my Muffy kiss 💅🏻 I just. I. You guys don’t understand. I was shipping this WAY before anyone really got on board. I remember trying to look up Muffy fan videos after two episodes of them together because I already fell in love with them and there was one like barely edited thirty second video on YouTube. I tried to post something on here and like two people liked it. I LIKED THEM WHEN BASICALLY NO ONE ELSE DID AND SO I FEEL LIKE I AM ONE OF THE MOST DESERVING OF THIS SHIP BEING ENDGAME AND NO ONE CAN FIGHT ME ON THIS JUST LET ME LOVE THEM

MUFFY KISS (sorry needed to say it one more time for emphasis)

And then they walked away together with their arms around each other 😭 If you watch closely Buffy kinda tucks her head into his arm and I’ve seen fics of them doing this so it made me heart 💗💓💓 when they actually did

I JUST WANT TO SEE THEM AS A CANON COUPLE IS THAT TO MUCH TO ASK

Please Terri Minksy, I beg of you, if you don’t get a S4 make a movie but it is REQUIRED BY LAW that Muffy and Tyrus are in the ENTIRE movie- being canon and cute. They don’t even need angst but I still want scenes with them together just being in love.

I will be spending the entire next week in complete denial that this show is over, while rewatching this episode ten times and reading every Muffy fic I can find. Thanks for coming to my Tedx talk.

[caswellsbeck]

disney is really continuing to disappoint me, and truly the only light is Terri Minksy and what she was trying to do with Andi Mack. I haven’t been this disappointed in disney since THAT episode of girl meets world, and i don’t even know what to say. wow.

[multimetaverse]

Do you think it is bad for people to try and use reasons to justify things on Andi Mack by using things Terri did on Lizzie McGuire?

I don’t think it’s bad anon but it does contradict what Terri herself said in her cynopsis media interview. Here’s what Terri has to say about Lizzie Mcguire:

‘’CK: The tween audience is getting more sophisticated by the day, it seems.

TM: They’re growing up fast; unfortunately, they have had to. I do want to keep pace with them, but that’s tough too because of how fast they’re growing up. Many times when we’re sitting in the writing room and suggesting stories, it’s like, You know what, I’m not going to do the school election, I’m not sure I’m ever going to do a prom. I can’t do the things every single coming of age show has done unless I figure out a way to do it differently and take it in an unexpected direction. Because it feel like that ground has been covered, by Lizzie McGuire, by the way. We have flattened all the live plats (sic) growing on it, and we have to keep going and finding new territory. (emphasis mine).’’

Now that doesn’t mean that she hasn’t and won’t borrow things from Lizzie Mcguire, Cyrus is definitely a re-tooled Gordo in many ways. But I don’t think at all that it means that Cyrus will end up with his first crush like Gordo did. If anything Terri’s desire to do things differently probably means that she won’t reuse the Gordo/Lizzie romance plot. And since we know that Bex and Bowie are getting married, two first lovers finding their way back to each other, I wouldn’t hold out hope for any other characters being endgame with their first crushes.

[70srockstar]

i step onto the stage. “carty is endgame,” i say into the microphone. the crowd immediately starts to boo at me. ashamed, i begin walking off the stage. out of the crowd, a voice calls “she’s right.” it’s terri minksy herself.

[captainkippen]

What's so awesome is that Cyrus is genuinely such a good character. He's well rounded and developed. He has depth. He's portrayed fantastically by Josh Rush. And his character is a GOOD PERSON. He's kind and supportive and loves his friends so much. He's not just there to be a token. He's there because he's important.

Terri Minksy deserves all the love in the world for giving us Cyrus Goodman as a role model for kids to look up to.

[flufffysocks]

some thoughts about the bench scene

first of all, i loved the whole thing. i thought it was absolutely perfect. i know some people were upset that there wasn’t a kiss, or that there wasn’t any confirmational dialogue, but i think that a lack of those things is what made the scene so incredibly true to tyrus. so much of their relationship is in subtext, and if this scene had suddenly diverged from that, it might have felt out of place or rushed. so anyway, i love the scene the way it was and think it’s absolutely adorable (i only wish we had more time to see cyrus and tj grow and mature, and become more comfortable with their sexualities and with each other).

also, i wanted to talk about something that i feel like hasn’t been discussed very much - the cinematography. one of the first things i noticed when watching the bench scene is that it was filmed from behind the bench, rather than the front. my thought process about this was along the lines of “i wish i could see this better, tj and cyrus are hardly visible!”. of course, this lack of visibility doesn’t read as messy filmmaking. it’s exactly the opposite, actually; the stills from the scene are beautiful - perfectly lit, with a tonally relevant backdrop, and a good focus on the subjects (cyrus and tj). it carries more of an air of mystery about it, like it’s speaking for cyrus and tj, saying “we’re letting you in on this very personal moment, but just a little”.

and, going back to the point i made in the beginning, this is just another way of subtling down the scene to fit the nature of tyrus. so much of their relationship isn’t expressed through words, but through body language (which @joshua-rush and luke mullen manage to get absolutely right every time, so i applaud them for that). in every tyrus scene except this one, tj and cyrus are visible from at least the torso up, and this is extremely important, because you can see them speaking their emotions in every little movement. their relationship is about the little things, and always has been.

so, even though they never verbally say “i like you” or “i’m gay” or anything along those lines, this is still such an intense and loaded scene, especially compared to the other tyrus scenes. adding that bench as a barrier between what is happening and what we can see is terri minksy’s way of toning down the scene without actually toning down the scene, just so that it fits better with the rest of tj and cyrus’s story, making one cohesive plot that fits so well together. this way, if you were to splice together all of the tyrus scenes, and only the tyrus scenes, it would work as it’s own entity and feel like a natural development.

i also think that watching the scene from behind the bench is symbolic of the guardedness of both tj and cyrus in terms of their sexuality. obviously, both of them have struggled with accepting themselves (cyrus’s “i feel weird, different” when he first came out, and later, his hesitance to come out to jonah, and tj allowing himself to be manipulated by kira to protect himself are good examples of this). this scene hasn’t changed that too much. they’re opening themselves up a little bit to each other, but they’re both still young, closeted gays, so they keep themselves guarded. you can feel that energy through the bench, especially in the shots that focus on their hands, because you can only see a sliver of what is happening, and the rest is blocked off. this is tj and cyrus stepping out of their comfort zones a little more, giving a little more of themselves to the world, but still having a long way to go.

and that, i think, is what makes tyrus so real, and such a good portrayal of lgbtq+ characters for a young and generally uneducated audience. because they’re still figuring themselves out, but in the end, they’re not ashamed, and they’re not hiding anymore - and THAT is what lgbtq+ kids need to see on tv.

so thank you terri minksy, for giving us this story, even in the littlest of ways. even through the back of a bench.