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thecoffeelorian · 3 months
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...It would seem that, as of this morning, a ton of proverbial twisted, rotting chickens are coming home to roost.
In other words, war and tyranny are simultaneously harming countless innocents on the news channels...but social media influencers ALSO insist that "Tyranny Is Sexy", and so we obviously need more of it as opposed to less.
Funny old world, ain't it...?
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"It’s also interesting how Titus contrasts with Enobaria, who bit out her final opponent’s throat, and was celebrated."
"I think the difference was like enobaria didnt swallow 💀"
"My theory is she had to sharpen her teeth and lean into a ferocious image so that it would be seen as warriorlike and not desperate, and as titus was eating hearts as sustinence, while enobaria bit and spit in likely desperate self defense."
I got this off tiktok, I thought it was interesting and I wanted to share.
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Ok so
I’m still a Hunger Games nerd and
I was just browsing about AO3 as you do, and I happened upon this fic:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16682320/chapters/3912138
And it got me thinking. I love the idea of the “Golden Victors” (the well known 20-30 somethings of the Quell) as a sort of found family. But consider this.
Polyamorous victors.
Think about it.
Having consensual sex to comfort each other after non-consensual sex
Sleeping in a big pile to ward off nightmares
Dropping guards around each other because they feel somewhat safer
Being overprotective
Sparring to destress
Being absolutely heartbroken when the Quell comes around and they have to yanno what I’m not gonna go there.
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lost-in-beacon-hills · 6 months
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Someone has probably already pointed this out but mentoring is hell. When Snow and all the other kids get assigned to being a mentor for the games they all end up falling for their tribute in a way. Or at least most of them do. They develop soft spots for them. Snow falls for Lucy Gray. Lysistrata fell for Jessup. Even Juno shows remorse over Bobbins death. Nearly all these capitol born children find out when mentoring that the kids they watch die are actually people.
At nearly every turn in the ballad of songbirds and snakes you see all capitol born citizens get personally involved with them. And when they inevitably lose them they all become different. It changes who they were. Each of them gets a little more convinced that their kid isn't district. Snow even pushes the idea that Lucy Gray is practically capitol. Within the mentoring they all view their tribute as the exception. The one that doesn't belong to a district. Their tribute is always better or smarter or kinder than the rest. A few of them even get saved by their tribute. The tribute didn't have to do it but they did. So to them they can't possibly be from a district.
Making the victors mentor the children from their own district is fucked in a lot of ways. Every year they are forced to get close to another kid, knowing their families back home are depending on them to do their best to bring them back. They try their damnedest to save them but the odds aren't always in their favor. It takes away the opportunity for their capitol citizens to humanize them while making them isolated on all sides. They don't want the capitol citizens getting too close because if they do then they'll realize these are people. They allow the winners to go home while being the richest in the district. In twelve, we see that everyone is starving while Haymitch is fine. This helps isolate the victors even more.
Who would want to look at their winner when people are dying and they are doing perfectly fine? Who would want to look at the person that didn't bring your child home? They may know the capitol is to blame but the mentor always shares that responsibility in their mind.
It's part of the punishment for the victors too. It's not enough to force them into prostitution and sex slavery. You need more than bodily control over them to keep them broken and beaten down.
The capitol does such a good job at isolating and punishing victors. You're forced to mentor a child every year that you may or may not know. Half of them are already dying or too weak to fight back and yet you are their only chance of survival. You have to be willing to forgive your fellow mentors for the actions of their tributes because they are the only ones who will ever truly know the hell of losing everything. They are the ones that understand the hate from all sides. The victors are hated by the president, their own districts (outside of the career districts but they have their own fucked problems) and by the kids they have to shepard to death.
Snow's games is designed to make them view the other districts as the enemy and for the most part it works. They want the victors to hate each other but by having control over everything else all they are left with is each other. Even if they wanted to hate each other there would be no point. They have no one else. Their games change them. No one back home is able to pick up their pieces.
In bosbas he reflects that all the capitol mentors now are bonded. It's a club with an unbreakable connection. I think he saw how dangerous it was to let their citizens be too close and just how painful it was to do that job. Imagine being one of the few like Haymitch that had 20+ years of failure to haunt them with a district full of children blaming them for the losses.
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melusinealarice · 11 months
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Somewhere in Panem with the victors the 74th year
Katniss climbing the tree
Gloss: Really Haymitch, this is the girl that got an 11 as a training score??
Cato falls
Haymitch: At least she got up the fuckin tree.
Cashmere: It’s fine someone else will get her.
None if the carriers climbing
Enobaria: You gotta be kidding me.
Johanna and Finnick join on the couch
Johanna: Even Finnick’s kids could climb a fucking tree,
Finnick hiding laughter
Brutus: At least our kids made it past the blood bath, can’t say the same for either of yours.
Johanna: I bet you wish they’d kept one of mine around right about now.
Gloss: its fine, she’s a sitting duck, they can just shoot her, its not like she can dodge it, or move.
Glimmer misses shot
Haymitch: Did that girl ever hit any target with her arrow? Because mine did.
Cashmere: We told her to grab a short distance weapon, she has no aim.
Enobaria: that’s embarrassing, for the careers. Cato will get her, he doesn’t miss.
Cato fires arrow and misses
Brutus: Oh my god, I can’t watch this, im getting second hand embarrassment.
Haymitch: Can none of your kids climb a tree???
Cashmere: I guess not.
Marvel throws spear and misses
Finnick: None of them can aim either, this is just sad
Peeta: lets wait her out, she has to come down at some point.
Haymitch laughing hysterically,
Some time later
Katniss starting to cut down tracker jackers
Gloss: Did all our kids seriously fall asleep,
Cashmere rubbing her temples: Yea, they did
Johanna: Who sleeps that heavily in the arena??? Shes making so much noise how are they not awake?
Enobaria: She’s gonna die from those jackers before that nest falls,
Nest falls and careers scatter
Brutus: I need another drink,
Glimmer dies
Johanna: HAH HOW DOES IT FEEL HAVING YOUR CAREER BE TAKEN OUT BY THE DISTRICT 12 GIRL!
Cashmere: no comment,
Some more time later
Katniss plots with rue to blow up food
Gloss: they aren’t gonna fall for that.
They fall for it
Haymitch: you were saying?
Enobaria: This year sucks
Katniss kills Marvel
Johanna (drunk) : HAH BOTH OF YOUR TRIBUTES TAKEN OUT BY THE 12 GIRL!
Gloss: Ok im leaving now.
Cashmere: yea i think im also gonna head out…
Johanna (drunk): LOOSERS HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Finnick: ok Jo, come on, that’s enough for you,
Takes her alcohol
Johanna: no fairrrr, you never take Haymitch’s alcohol
Haymitch: he knows not to mess with me
Finnick: Every time you get drunk, you end up in a fist fight, or breaking something, or both, Haymitch just passes out.
Johanna: OH WHAT YOU WANNA FIGHT LETS FIGHT!
Finnick picks Jo up and carries her to the elevator as she continues screaming and fighting
Haymitch to Brutus and Enobaria: Haha, your tributes arent as cool as mineeee,
Brutus: at least our girl doesn’t look like she wants to vomit getting close to her supposed lover.
Finnick returns
Enobaria: that was fast?
Finnick: I locked her in her bathroom,
Haymitch: Didn’t she just break down the door last time?
Finnick: I handcuffed one of her hands to the pipes and the other to the door.
Elevator doors open revealing Johanna, drenched in water, still handcuffed to a pipe, and the door.
Finnick: I give up. *sits down*
Brutus: what the fuck is wrong with you.
Both Finnick and Jo simultaneously: A lot.
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itsajollyjester · 3 months
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yessss that defo answers my questions! ur thoughts on compassion & community intertwined w rebellion definitely show up in ur art lol. something more specific i have been curious abt is ur version of the endings of each specific hunger games & ur characterization/portrayal of the victors at those points! if u have any more thoughts abt any of those characters or their games id love to hear.... im also very not neurotypical abt hunger games
For sure!! But this is a novel and a half so I apologize in advance (also most of this is from memory so anyone can correct me if I'm getting any details wrong)
((TW: For visual depictions of Blood, Gore, and Wounds))
I realized I'd seen barely any art showing what the victors would have looked like when they won their games. They were all just kids and I feel like it can be easy to forget that sometimes
For all of them, I made the background one of their main "weapons" but tried to make it look like its turning back on them instead since there are no victors as Haymitch said.
I'll try to explain them all more in depth individually going in the order I drew them:
Finnick Odair, 65th Games:
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His main weapons were his trident and nets that he made with vines. His background is one of the nets ready to trap him.
Finnick was the youngest victor ever at only 14. I really really wanted to emphasize just how little that is. (Especially since we know exactly why the Capitol loved him from the start…) Once I actually drew him looking that little I had to step away for a bit because I made myself too sad…
Outside of just how horrific his age is as a concept, I tried to think about what circumstances would lead to him actually winning when surrounded by older tributes. I think he would have had to avoid any kind of fight he didn't have the upper hand in. We know that he got the most expensive sponsor gifts in the history of the games (a trident), so he probably got plenty of sponsors outside of that as well. Because of that I doubt he needed to go looking for supplies much if ever so it was easy to avoid people there. He was also probably in a career pack, despite his age, due to his training and his popularity, and they would have hunted other tributes down together much like the one we saw in the first book (safer in numbers). Once it was narrowing down and the pack broke is when I think he started catching people in nets. All of that is a long winded way of saying that's why, unlike the other victors I drew, I only show him with minor cuts and bruises.
Originally I was going to draw him with a kind of strained smile like he was acting for an audience from the start. But I decided I actually think its sadder if he believed he was popular because of his skill and strategy as a fighter and only learned the whole truth after he won and that's when he started acting more for the camera. Instead I gave him a more muted despair kind of look, like his world is crashing down. One of my favorite parts about the movies, mainly THG and ABOSAS, is when they give the career tributes at the end a moment of realization about what they've done, and I wanted to give Finnick his. I'm a person that believes Finnick had to have volunteered for his games. I think he would have legitimately believed in the propaganda the career districts were fed and had a bit of a (very middle school boy) ego about his abilities. (I was NOT expecting to write so much about his lmao)
Enobaria, 62nd Games
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She's most well known for ripping someones throat out with her teeth. (Her background is her sharpened teeth getting ready to eat her.) This is treated by The Capitol, and by Katniss, as grotesque and terrifying blood lust (Which obviously the Capitol loves her for). However, and I'm not at all the first to say it, that sounds more like a terrified and desperate attempt to survive a fight she was losing and an example of hysterical strength. We know that Career packs have had bloody betrayals in the past and I can see Enobaria being a part of one of them. Enobaria doesn't have a canonical age, but I decided to put her on the younger side (15 or 16.) I can imagine some of the older, bigger tributes deciding she was the weakest link towards the end and that was the result. I tried to make the blood around her mouth and down her shirt look more faded, like she tried desperately to wipe it off (Also I had to step away from drawing again after I drew her little tooth gap)
I think she probably leaned into the bloodthirsty image afterwards as a way to protect herself and (maybe even started to believe it too)
Annie Cresta, 70th Games
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Annie's known for losing her mind after seeing her district partner decapitated in front of her. After that, she ran off and hid until the game makers started an earth quake, which made the large dam in the arena break and cause a huge flood. Annie was the only survivor because she was the strongest swimmer. So I decided to make her background dark water that's churning up and over her head. I also think it can work well as a way to show her mental state in the moment (and afterwards) Annie is actually one of my favorite characters in the series and I've been writing out a plan for a possible comic series about her that'll go more in depth about my headcanons for her. (when I say comic series, I mean sketches and oneshots, not a full thing lmao) It wouldn't take place during her games (outside of a few flashbacks when I need more context), instead it would start at her Victory Tour and go into her first (and last) year as a mentor for the 71st Games. Which is a perfect segue to-
Johanna Mason, 71st Games
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Johanna is actually first mentioned early on in the first book when Katniss is wondering if the reason Peeta is crying is because he plans to act weak and helpless as a strategy in the games. (Katniss, he just found out he has to fight in a murder tournament with his crush. He's just Sad.) She bases her theory on Johanna, who pretended she was a "sniveling, cowardly fool" in the arena until the final stretch of the games when she proved to be deadly with an axe.
OR….. Katniss is an unreliable narrator and Johanna was actually a terrified kid from a district with so few victors that she was the only name in the bowl for the Quarter Quell… This is totally just a personal headcanon of mine tho lol. I think there would have been a point in her games where she realized she actually had a chance and that's when she seemingly had a huge character turn around. Maybe there was a infighting with the careers that ended in multiple deaths and there was only a few left along with any other tributes hiding away like her. Maybe she poked around what was left of their camp, found the axe, and felt strength from her district.
Her background was a little harder for me. Just slapping a big axe behind her felt cheesy. But them I remembered her saying there was no one left that she loved. So instead I put trees that could represent her loved ones (Two fully grown trees, a younger "teenage" tree, and a sapling) that are in the process of being cut down.
Haymitch Abernathy, 50th Games
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Don't worry, I'm almost done. I don't have as much to say about Haymitch since we know SO much about what happened in his games. But his background was probably the hardest for me. His main weapon was invisible after all. I thought maybe the axe that was used, but again, That would look cheesy. I tried (and kinda failed imo) to draw the cliff side the force field was on instead. But the main thing I did was split the three panels I had on the previous drawings into six for two reasons. 1: Because he had to face twice as many tributes in order to win and 2: Being the only victor of a district that's tributes are seen as fodder for the blood bath means he had to meet and watch the death of twice as many kids every year.
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kald-dal-art · 3 months
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More Victor art woohoo. Technically all cannon victors this time even if one of them didn’t really do anything except be in the background (and have the most horrfic death in the series). So might as well tag it as being an OC ✌️
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thalissateixeira · 1 year
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CATCHING FIRE (2013)
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Johanna, grabbing Finnick by his collar: SAY THAT YOUR SORRY!
Finnick: IM SORRY
Johanna: AND WHAT ARE YOU SORRY FOR!?
Finnick: FOR SAYING THAT YOUR AGGRESSIVE!
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happymixxx · 16 days
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i'd love to read catching fire from perspective of other people, like finnick, haymitch, johanna, enobaria, plutarch cause yeah, as a reader it's cool to be oblivious just like katniss about rebellion and learning stuff with the mc, but also rereading it I'd love to see how they all joined the rebellion, what they were thinking and how more experienced players were seeing everything (and yes, johanna's reaction to baby bomb is must have)
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brucelinas · 2 months
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thecoffeelorian · 4 months
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mollywog · 6 months
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I headcanon that Haymitch is the unofficial ‘center point’ of the remaining Victors.
We know he lives in District 12 close to Katniss and Peeta and I picture him as a mother hen (or goose 😜) when it comes to them, though he would never admit it. He tries to be hands off, but he’s vigilant. I see him playing himself off of them: When Katniss and Peeta are at odds with each other, Haymitch will make a common ‘enemy’ in himself to put them back of common ground. When Haymitch lets them feed him, it’s as much for them as it is for him - it gives them purpose to care for each other and watch the others do well because of their assistance.
Outside of District 12, Johanna is the easiest to keep in touch with. They’ll go from talking multiple times a week to spans of months without a word. He’s Johanna’s sounding board after particularly poignant calls with her therapist: she’ll call Peeta if she’s looking for comfort, but Haymitch is good at listening to her rants and at the end lightening the mood with crass jokes until she’s howling.
Haymitch has a particular soft spot for Annie, though they rarely speak directly. Peeta and Johanna are in regular contact with her and he is able to keep tabs on her that way without ‘bothering’ her.
Beetee gets absorbed in his work and would go largely forgotten (and not particularly minding it) if not for Haymitch checking in a handful of times a year - he usually disguises his reason for his calls with a technology questions, or talk of politics, but both enjoy the conversations and their frequency.
He and Enobaria were never close, but they share friends and memories from their years mentoring. Every now and then when he’s in a certain mood he’ll call - and when she’s in the mood to answer they’ll swap their favorite lighthearted Victor anecdotes: that time Woof tripped into the buffet and food went flying or the time Cashmere wore the wrong color and disappeared into the green screen during an interview with Caesar. It’s something like their ‘memory book’ moment - honoring thier fellow Victors.
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thesweetnessofspring · 3 months
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By the time the anthem plays its final strains, all twenty-four of us stand in one unbroken line in what must be the first public show of unity among the districts since the Dark Days.
Hungertown 7/?
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bodyelectric77 · 4 months
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I’m finally going to make a post arguing against one of my least favorite assumptions that I see people make: the Capitol let Enobaria go home.
People tend to assume this is canon because that’s what Boggs assumes must have happened. Specifically, he says, “Since she’s from Two, we doubt she’s being held anyway.” But I don’t believe it! And neither should you!
Boggs was born and raised in 13. He was likely taught to see anyone who appears sympathetic to the Capitol as intrinsically evil. There is no room for nuance, no understanding of a different perspective she may have from her time as a victor. Basically, my point here is, Boggs isn’t coming from an objective place.
Enobaria was never a priority for the rebels. Everyone else in Capitol custody was either actively working with them (Johanna), or a valuable asset that they needed in order to get the victors they already had to function and cooperate (Peeta and Annie). What would they possibly have to gain by getting Enobaria out? As far as they know, she’s a loyalist to her core, with zero interest in helping their cause at all. The only reason why they might rescue her is because of Katniss’ Mockingjay deal, but Katniss isn’t there. If they tell her they couldn’t find Enobaria in there, she really has no reason to doubt them (and she was included as a courtesy/to set a precedent anyway, it’s not like she was a big priority for her). So, sure, maybe they didn’t find her. But if I were them, I sure as hell wouldn’t have wasted my energy looking very hard, so I don’t think that’s rock solid evidence that she was never there. (I’ve even seen fanfics where they do find her, and pass her by altogether, which I think is plausible as well.)
The Capitol views all districts as intrinsically beneath them. They are the “other.” At the end of the day, they’re all the same. This is made very clear by what we know was done to Finnick and Cashmere, who both come from Career districts. If their district’s status didn’t exempt them from their fate, why would Enobaria’s exempt her from imprisonment? (To be clear, Two is much more loyal than One, and especially Four, but I think my point still stands.) I think in a war situation, they would be even less inclined to make special exceptions for the “well-behaved” ones. So I really don’t believe it’s a given that she would be let go, just because she’s from Two. Also, if Two were really treated so well by the Capitol across the board, there would be no rebels there, but there were. Not as many as there were elsewhere, but they did exist. And Lyme, a victor, was their commander. That speaks volumes. Two is not a monolith, and being from Two is not the “get out of jail free” card that Boggs assumes it is.
At the end of Catching Fire, Finnick and Enobaria are running towards the tree together! Without attacking each other! It’s super unclear how and why this came to be- maybe she was chasing him, maybe he told her what was up and she decided it was in her best interest to go with it (my personal headcanon), but regardless, from the Capitol’s perspective, that’s suspicious. Also, Katniss was about to shoot her, THEN DIDN’T! Plenty of reasons for the Capitol to think she might know something, or be involved in some capacity. I really don’t think they would let her leave after that.
She votes yes for the new iteration of the Hunger Games. There are a lot of factors that probably contributed to this (I can’t remember if I’ve already made a post about that or not) but the fact that she said, “Let them have a taste of their own medicine” is very telling to me. Those aren’t the words of someone who was treated well by the Capitol, or someone who was allowed to freely leave as soon as the Games ended. She suffered. They all did. The Careers weren’t special. The Capitol wanted everyone to believe they were, including the Careers themselves, but they were oppressed, too. And I think it’s a direct contradiction of one of the major themes of the book to pretend otherwise- they were never the real enemy.
Obviously, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. There’s no way to know what actually happened to her. I actually think it’s essential that we aren’t told she was imprisoned with the rest of them, because both the Capitol and Thirteen would love for everyone to believe she, like Two as a whole, is distinct from the rest of the districts somehow- for the Capitol to create internal divisions among the districts, for Thirteen to paint any loyalists with the same evil brush as they paint the Capitol to justify disposing of them. But, just like District Two, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that she was likely imprisoned, too- maybe not to the same degree, or in the exact same way, but a prisoner nonetheless.
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moowithmidnight · 3 months
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One thing about me is I’m always gonna defend the Careers. What do you mean you don’t see the tragedy in kids so heavily brainwashed they think being forced to murder other kids is an honor? What do you mean you don’t think about how terrifying it must be for Career victors when the illusion breaks but they survive? What do you mean you don’t see the parallels between the 74th and 75th Careers and lose your mind?
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