#to suicide bait people

[sky-fire-forever]

The way the internet (specifically, like, liberal and leftist spaces that I've noticed) are going back to "kill yourself" as a weapon is... disturbing.

I've seen several posts telling Elon Musk to kill himself. I saw a post talking about how you should suicide bait TERFs. I just saw a post about how certain politicians should kill themselves.

And like. I get the point is that these people are harming people and are shitty, but fucking suicide baiting isn't the answer??

You know what I saw when I looked at those posts?

I saw the proof that if I'm morally wrong to someone, they wouldn't care if I literally fucking killed myself.

I've been suicide baited by a friend before and by an ex before. It genuinely fucked me up. Learning that people you thought cared about you literally want you to die and will weaponize your mental illness against you is something genuinely extremely fucked up

So, like. Maybe "kill yourself" isn't the comeback you think it is

[ghostcrows]

"touch grass" is not a viable insult in the modem age of technology. I can take my phone outside with me. I can be a hater anytime, anyplace. Frolicking through fields while I post so rancidly. Cradled in a lush bed of wildflowers while I suicide bait you

[rouge-the-bat]

person not involved in The Discourse: wow both sides on this need to touch grass lol theyre both wackos

side A on The Discourse: i would like to exist in peace

side B on The Discourse: everyone on side A should kill themselves

[thebibliosphere]

Not sure whose Cheerios I pissed in today, but hoo, boy.

"I hope you die."

Worstie, same. You're not special.

[hiveswap]

Summary of The Cat of The Year poll atrocities of 2023/2024

I'm sure that most people on this side of tumblr have seen the Jellie vs. Nefarious Anglerfish poll going around with like 60k votes at this point, and I'd really like clear up some of what happened since I was around for the whole thing.

Url blocked out for op's privacy. They have already left but don't look for it if you haven't seen it/don't harrass them if you already have.

1. The previous round (preparation)

I discovered the poll in its previous round, needless to say she beat Jort's ass severely. This was around the 3rd of january, meaning that this round finished before jellie's passing with only about 7k votes. Op did add their own piece of propaganda from their main:

...which was FINE. (except for stuff we'll see later) Of course running a poll while biased isn't ideal but I for one didn't even know they were the op until much later. I also added my own piece in a separate thread, and they didn't interact with it at all. There was no drama.

2. The Finale

Jellie unfortunately passed away right before the starting of this poll, which was the catalyst for what happened next. Op did exactly as last time and added a slightly more mean spirited encouragement to vote for the other contestant. This is the point where I believe that i fucked up personally.

I added this thinkpiece accusing op of associating all mcyters with Dream (who we all hate for the record) despite them not alluding to him at all. This is because tumblr has a history of disimissing all mcyters as... everything that dream was been accused of. Op did allude to not caring for mcyt. but they didn't say what i accused them of. This is important to point out because this reblog of mine is still being spread. Jellie was in the lead at the time, but not by the time i woke up next morning.

I won't be including anyone else's additions because I don't want to put blame on any specific person. Just felt like clearing up mine.

3. The Fuckening

Some time later op made this post to their personal blog:

which is insanely shitty because, as other people have pointed out, the "lame ass youtube cat" didn't die to inconvinience op or ruin their fun, and people would have probably voted for her anyway because jelly is universally beloved in the mcyt community. This isn't anti democratic. This post was added to the poll with a caption saying op should not be running this poll, and it took off. Op later went on to say that this was a joke:

This apology was not taken well by people, (including me) because "you were not meant to see it" isn't an apology and they still very much made fun of someone's pet dying. Safe to say this did not make the drama stop and only added fuel to the flame. I believe this was the point where the conversation of mcyt fans being unjustly sent hate to was reignited.

We should discuss that! it's a real thing that happens often and is equal to childish bullying. However, in this case, OP was the only one getting sent hate to my knowledge. The notes were mostly saturated by mcyt fans, and even now i can only find one or two hateful stance towards us under the whole 20k notes post.

4. Conclusions

Op posted a second apology to the catoftheyear blog to try and calm people down (i believe this is comprehensive and a lot better than the previous one) The blog was deactivated shortly after, so i only have my phone screenshots of it that i also added to the poll itself at some point:

(Edit) Here's proof that op did not write the justification they got criticised for, from the notes of the original poll:

This apology didn't get seen, or get accepted by enough people, so op made this statement on their personal:

Needless to say I am deeply dissapointed (and guilty) that it's come to this. Yes, op said tasteless things that made us all angry, but telling a human being to commit suicide is worse than being insensitive about a stranger's pet dying. Even after I posted about the blog being decatived i had someone come into my notes to wish that "they never find happiness" i mean wtf. This isn't like shipping where we can do whatever without the content creator's input. this is fucking harrowing and i can't imagine how i'd feel if this was done in my/my pet's name especially after losing them as recently as a week ago.

I hope no one from hermitcraft who is on here (let alone scar holy shit) learns about this like they did with previous lighthearted tournaments. If you truly respect the creators you claim to be a fan of as people, you do not tell people to kill themselves over them. And finally, let Jellie fucking rest, guys. she had a long, good life. I hope op can come back and also avoids behaving like this if they ever wish to do so. I'm angrier at mcytblr, though.

[kittybroker]

congrats on officially being the most annoying account on tumblr. take the bud dwyer challenge!

We did it guys! First hate mail on kitty broker! Get a lot of asks, and a number of weird ones from time to time but this is a first!

Would also like to take this moment to thank everyone for their continued support. Just passed 10k followers earlier today which is absolutely crazy. People still seem to be loving the blog and I'm appreciate every message people sending in saying they like it. To get to 10k and to only now receive the first hate mail is wild.

Anyways I thought it'd be funnier to put the message here thanking people and I didn't feel like making my own post anyways. Here's a dancing cat for you all to enjoy!

[nashvillethotchicken]

Louis de Pointe du lac will lightly jab at his partner or be kinda emotionally unavailable then his partner will do something to him that would warrant an actually enforced emergency protection order and some of you fans will say Louis deserved it for the jab or for the crime of being slightly not into it.

[eldest-of-katts]

okay because people have shown up in my dms talking smack I'm going to make one blanket statement on the 1000 year loli chilchuck thing.

yes, there has been a problem with young girls being put in suggestive positions in anime with the "uhmmm she's actually a bajillion years old" excuse. yes, other characters don't treat chilchuck like an adult. yes, he is short with big eyes.

However, chilchuck consistently acts like a grown man. he- in both the manga and the anime- straight up just is an adult. He looks like an adult when he is any other race during the swaps in the manga. When the other characters get turned into half-foots they look similar to chilchuck. He is explicitly stated to have more dungeon and general life experience than laios, and he acts like it.

The 1000 year loli trope explicitly functions as an excuse to prey on people who are inexperienced and unable to advocate for themselves. Chilchuck is a parent, is a union organizer, has explicit boundaries that he enforces rigidly, and he is treated as an adult man by everyone who doesn't have a fantasy racism-focused character arc/issue.

I can see how if you haven't read the manga and seen that he has an established life that he later reveals (and haven't paid attention to him in the anime lol) you could get a mistaken impression about him. Marcielle does too in the source material! It's part of her character at the start of her arc that she has issues with longevity!

The thing that irks me a little about this interpretation is that it leans into the child-coded discourse that was prominent a while ago (she's short!!!!! but has boob???? ILLEGAL!!1!) and it does a disservice to the themes of infantilization as a policy maneuver hurting the working class.

I saw chilchuck and his labor advocacy for half-foots both as a metaphor for racism (obvious take ik) and for ageism.

The working gen z as a cohort are being infantilized and pushed out of job markets due to infantilization, similar to half-foots in the show. gen z is being maliciously portrayed as too young to vote, enter office, know themselves, know their rights, and take advantage of their resources. Simultaneously, child labor protections and protections against workplace abuse are being rolled back in the US. In Japan, young people are being worked to the bone for nothing and are becoming disenfranchised as a generation while simultaneously expected to be the labor faction that supports the postwar generations in their old age.

Chilchuck's being treated poorly I saw as a clever commentary on the ways infantilization allows for protections to be stripped away under the guise that "oh it's just a job for teenagers- they don't need more than minimum wage" or "let the kids rescue the economy! they're always complaining about that job market!" while simultaneously stripping away rights under the guise of protection- "We can't have that on the internet! think of the children!" "to protect these young people we must raise the age of medical consent for hormones/reproductive health decisions!"

Kui's work with this series spoke to me on many levels, and specifically, the infantilization issue touched me in a way that few other pieces of media have. The struggle to be taken seriously in a stem field as someone young, as someone female, and as someone who had a high-pitched voice to the point I did years of voice training to be taken seriously, chilchuck's character resonated. I (kinda) understand your instinct to think "SHORT! CHILD! RALLY THE MASSES AND KILL THE PEDOS!!1!" but in this case, it's misdirected- mostly because the author was trying to use this misdirection to prove something to you, the reader.

Kui consistently makes cutting commentary on modern issues, the show's take on food neutrality as its headliner, but also the author's takes on cultural issues and the environment (with a focus on our place in the food web as animals). I feel that reducing chilchuck's very conscious position as a tradesman and an activist discounted due to his apparent age down to "1000 year loli ewwww let's send this random tumblr user suicide bait" just displays a lack of critical analysis of the show and a level of disrespect towards Kui and the work as a whole.

TL:DR- stop sending me kys messages I'm fucking that old man

[apocalypsegay]

people who are like "not proship, not anti, but a secret third thing" i get them. i get them. but. they don't seem to realize they're still playing by the game the pedophilia enthusiasts set up. "im not a proship because i dont fuck w/pedophilia or incest, but i'm not an anti because i don't harass people over it"

i need you to stop for a second

because....... who told you the "antis" were harassing them?

the guys with the lolisho twitter likes???????? you're gonna believe THEM when they claim there's unfair harassment campaigns against them?????????

the guys who think standing in your own, personal blog saying "idk i think rape porn is icky" or "guys, here's literal CP i found in this person's likes, so we should probably block and stop interacting" is harassment. that's who you're taking at their word.

this is not a "you should definitely be on the anti side" bc again, "anti" was made up by a bunch of pedophiles. i'm not saying there definitely isn't people who get overzealous about this kind of shit (but ill b real, anyone with "anti" on their about is probably 14). i'm just saying... don't. believe. a bunch of people with victim complexes over incest fanfiction when they tell you they are fucking under attack.

[wallbeatjournal]

what if i told you hiram lodge was a redditor?

i think he's catfishing and suicide-baiting posters on niche kink subreddits at this very moment

[dayurno]

can i beg you for what a neil or andrew twitter would look like pls im begging u tumblr user dayurno onnmy.knees

sure! :) andrew doesnt use twitter but neil has a trail of banned accounts on his belt because he keeps inciting violence and harassment

[jin-zixun]

i think it's actually very brave to fight for yourself when no one else will, to insist upon your own self worth, if only in your own actions and self-preservation, when everyone around considers you worthless or unworthy.

If no one else cares about you, you will care, if no one else loves you, you will try to show yourself love to the best of your ability, even if you don't know it, if no one else will protect you then you will fight for yourself. Keep yourself alive. No one else will and it's you're no less worthy than who you're being told to put yourself to the side for, to die for, to admit you are nothing for.

It's trauma, it's resilience, it's survival, it's fight, it's advocacy, it's perseverance, it's natural, it's difficult, and it's brave.

[warmshotamilk]

Antis: We want to PROTECT victims! We don't want them to accidentally stumble on something that might trigger them!

Victim: *makes fiction they don't like*

Antis: Omfg kill yourself. I hope you get raped. You deserved what happened to you and you clearly liked it if THIS is the stuff you like LOL

[pinkinsect]

Heartwarming: Multicultural Couple Teaches Each Other About Suicide Baiting

[the-catboy-minyan]

if there's something I can be proud of is that in my over two decades of existing, I never once sent any person suicide bait or death threats. that is a line that I will never allow myself to cross, not even look at from 10 feet away. what a horrible thing to send to someone

[i-like-her-like-that]

Hey remember when we didn't tell people to kill themselves