#toh collectors

[regular-gnome]

Could you possibly do an Archivist height chart against eachother and maybe other things such as humans/witches or titans? Those mfs are TALL!

going with "funtional" height, so the one they usually keep. I think both titans and archivists have some degree of control on how large or small they can be, this is whats the baseline is

About how tall the titan of isles would be - my theory is here, but I think a lot of height came from their magic post mortem, and they werent exacly this height their whole life. Their magic deals with healing, creating life. After receiving fatal wounds, it tries to overcompensate by generating many new cells and extending itself in a desperate attempt to cling to life, but ultimately fails. Skin splitting, bones extending causing the magic to extend to it as well, until the entire body becomes much larger and collapses, creating a large area that forms an island. During their lives, they were tall, but probably not Mount Everest tall

at least thats my theory on it and I dont really have a better explanation that would make sense to me

[ophanim-vesper]

So... what did Titans actually look like?

Upon examining the murals, King, the Titan Trappers and Papa Titan himself, there seems to be inconsistencies with how Titans actually looked like when they were alive and grown.

So, I’ve gathered 3 theories to help explain this!

The Murals Are A Demonization Of Titans

This theory seems quite likely, of course a collection of murals, made by collectors, would depict their enemies as demonic and evil-looking creatures. 

I believe the spell the Collector used to make the Archive House is one created and taught by the Archivists, therefore the murals are according to the Archivists’ tastes and biases.

I mean, look at this mural. The Titans here are portrayed as skeletal beings (likely based on their now deceased appearance) and their wings are portrayed incorrectly (being on their arms instead of on their back). Plus the Titan Trapper in this mural is portrayed as heroic and valiant, further vilifying the Titans here.

One problem with this theory is that, in a world like the Demon Realm that has Snagglebacks and horrifying Teeth Fairies, it wouldn’t be too outlandish for the Titans to actually look like this, even if they were benevolent.

Plus, the mural in King’s birthplace still shows the same image for the ‘Titan’. Either the mural in that place is reversed (The actual Titan is the one throwing the spear, while the skeletal being is the enemy), or Titans did actually look like this.

(Interesting detail is that the giant monster here looks more like an otherworldly alien with a star on their chest, the patterns kinda look ‘space-like’ too. Makes you wonder what the Archivists actually looked like).

2. There Are Two Types Of Titans

This was a theory I believed in back when For The Future first came out. We didn’t know much of collectors and titans and the Collector-Titan war, so this made sense to me at the time.

The theory was that one of the Archivists fell in love with the Demon Realm and wanted to live there, so they became a Titan, specifically a ‘yellow-eyed Titan’. This created 2 Titan variants, the red-eyed Titans (the true Titans), and yellow-eyed Titans (Collector-Titans).

I mainly believed this theory because of the triple parallel it implied. Luz, Caleb and the Collector-Titan were all foreign beings who wanted to live in the Demon Realm, even if it was forbidden, or meant the disapproval of their peers/family members.

Also, I believed King was a descendant of the yellow-eyed titans, seeing how the Titans in the murals had red eyes instead of yellow eyes (though this could’ve been another instance of demonization). Though if this was true, it’d be cool if King turned out to be related to the Collector. One of the Archivists becoming a Titan could also explain why these murals only have 3 collectors instead of 4, one of their siblings was missing and they assumed the Titans did something to them, leading them to wipe them all out.

However, this theory can easily be debunked, as the mural where a Collector turns into a Titan could just be the origin of the Titan Trappers. Still, this is a nice thought and would make the entire story of the Owl House so beautifully poetic as these 3 separate narratives all carry the same theme.

3. Titans Can Change Their Form

This is the theory I currently believe in the most (though the second one is still my favorite overall). It makes the most sense, is the most realistic, and was somewhat shown in the finale ‘Watching And Dreaming’.

I believe Titans can change their size and shape, going from a more averagely-sized Titan (more closely resembling the Titan Trappers), to a colossal behemoth that resembles their depiction in the murals. I mean, when you live on a planet that you can take up nearly 15% of, it’d make sense that you’d want to change size so you could actually live on the planet. Also, Papa Titan kind of showed this in the finale, when he went from dad mode to bad mode.

So, much like Globgor from SVTFOE, Titans can simply change from a smaller form to their true colossal form. I imagine the colossal form is when they’re at their fullest potential, so they stayed in this form a lot while fighting the Collectors. The collectors saw this form of them the most, so they assumed this is what all Titans naturally looked like.

But those are my theories, what are yours? If any of you even paid attention to these ‘inconsistencies’. I’m probably just overthinking all of this and there were no inconsistencies, but still. Anyways have a nice day and keep watching and dreaming :)

[pageofheartdj]

I wanna play with those beta Collectors and somehow implement them into canon(if i already didnt cause my memory is shit xD)

So what if. Young collectors magic is unstabble due to them being young with loose emotional management and all. They have their magic since birth, just don’t know how to channel it yet.

But their strong emotions can still influence it. And hard. And that’s why collectors are being raised to be apathetic and detatched, it’s easier than to hold everything under control, especially for a child who constantly slips.

Archivists didn’t mind sending Collector down to Demon Realm to burn out some of that magic, they won’t have to deal with it while working.

When they are too happy/excited, they send fireworks and explosions all around them. When they are too angry, they heat everything up to a burning degree. When they too sad, they cry oceans, drowning everything.

Also collectors are capable of reaching this hyperfocus, when their magic is in their strongest and they are akin to machine, mind directed only in achieving the goal with no distraction.

And man if they are depressed, they just kill/suffocate everything around them to the point of creating a black hole.

[just-a-bigender-monster]

Archivest consept but i did it from memory

Bonus cat sniffing a camra doodle

[orangecreamsoda]

Collector and titan adopt special 4/4

Wanted to do a special for my unsold collectors.

Buy one for $10 and get a mystery titan.

For $15 get a mystery titan and a matching outfit of the collector.

For $20 get a custom titan and a matching outfit of the collector:

Custom:

Age: Gender: Appearance:

For $25 get a custom titan, a matching outfit of the collector and a older design of the titan

Collectors:

1. 80s aesthetic collector 2. Starly collector  3. Strange collector 4. Nighttime collector

[celestialsandtitans]

Based on my idea If Collector’s family were based moons of the moon calendar.

My cousin and I designed a collector based on the strawberry moon with a neon touch.

[splattwig]

guys don’t tell Dana but I leaked a new archivist from season 4 shhhh

jk it’s @onesnazzy’s oc Cassini!

[passionpeachy]

I miss you so much, child of the stars ✨ (reupload)

[cupcakeshakesnake]

The Collector plays Undertale

[rafry]

🪐 orbital resonance 🪐

[rileyclaw]

 i had a dream about this scenario last night.

[regular-gnome]

Archiving is an important job

[ophanim-vesper]

Collector Hierarchy

So based on absolutely nothing I created a ranking system for Collector's species, which I've dubbed 'Celestials' for the sake of differentiation.

This hierarchy system will be canon in my TOH Fanfiction thingy based on that art I made of me and my friend as a Collector and Titan. Stay tuned to see more of that.

(also, if you're curious about the lore of said fanfic, you can read this google doc:)

[pageofheartdj]

Oh gods the idea that collectors wiped out not only the titans but everything living on the planet. This is why there is barely any land and witches live on titans corpses while being surrounded by boiling ocean.

[cathchicken]

The birds and the bees- a toh mini comic

I apologize, the first few panels look a bit clunky since the sketches were so lazy (I initially doodled it without the idea of it being a comic) but I hope it’s still ok

[orangecreamsoda]

Three Words

An Eliatrope Collector