Since I have seen a few people try and frame Tolya being aroace as just a headcanon, or point out the (valid) fact that being aroace doesn't completely negate that someone can be in a relationship as a reason why having him be interested in Inej in the show isn't erasure, I feel like it's important to point out that he very specifically states in the text of one of the books that he has no interest in forming a romantic relationship or attachment with anyone and never has:
So yes. Shipping him with Inej, or anyone else, is erasing his canon sexuality. That's it.
That caption was awful even without the book context. Honestly if someone defend that because didn't read the books then just watched the show with the head in their ass
I'm almost done with shadow and bone season 2 and as a soc book stan who couldn't have given a fuck about the shadow and bone book characters...... I'm in so much pain.
Just to really bring the point home for those who have not read the Six of Crows duology and think that Inej deserves to “have some fun before she finds her way back to her true love”, or who perhaps think that a love triangle/jealousy drama would somehow spur Kaz into action (do you even know Kaz Brekker?):
For someone connected to the production to caption a photo of the actors with the (crack) ship name of their characters (“Tonej”) and talk about “skin on skin” might seem innocent (”it’s just an Insta post”), but let’s look at the context for those who are upset by this – some of whom have suffered similar traumas and find comfort/inspiration in Inej’s character.
Here is a sample of Inej’s previous experience of skin on skin:
There were young men, old men, handsome men, ugly men. There was the man who cried and struck her when he could not perform. The man who wanted her to pretend it was their wedding night and tell him that she loved him. The man with sharp teeth like a kitten who had bitten at her breasts until she’d bled. Crooked Kingdom p. 274 Kindle version
And these are the men she remembers; mostly she forced herself to go numb, while making all the right noises and moves so Tante Heleen would not abuse her further.
Because she loves Kaz, she tells him she is willing to work on that trauma IF HE WORKS ON HIS. This does not mean that she is itching for skin on skin action there and then, it means she wants to be ready for it if they are to have a future together.
What if he had come to her, laid his gloves aside, drawn her to him, kissed her mouth? Would she have pulled him closer? Kissed him back? Could she have been herself in such a moment or would she have broken apart and vanished, a doll in his arms, a girl who could never quite be whole? Crooked Kingdom, p. 275 Kindle version
This is her mindset as she boards that ship in S2E8. She does not need a man who is basically a stranger to be her ticket out of trauma – not even a lovely one like Tolya (who in turn does not need or want romance in his life to be fulfilled). She needs healing, a purpose and – as a character – not to be reduced to half a ship in a fling which would be nothing but a waste of precious screentime.
EDIT: Inserting screenshot of the caption/tagging of the photo depicting Amita Suman and Lewis Tan, just to highlight the clear reference to the characters and not the actors, whatever was claimed afterwards.
i’m going to address tonej because it’s been really bothering me ever since i saw people first shipping them together and this post set me over the edge. yes, everyone is allowed to ship who they want and this is my opinion. the fact that someone who is involved in the show, can so willing disregard inej’s touch aversion and her trauma, when the show hardly addresses inej’s trauma, doesn’t sit right with me. her “skin to skin” joke is not funny, like what the fuck? the fact that people can so willingly disregard her trauma as well as kaz trying to be open and willing to try and change himself so that he can be with inej? jesus christ, and the fact that both freddy and amita have poured so much fucking time into giving the fans an incredible kanej while both respecting their backstories and their trauma, and people just disregard two seasons of their fucking incredible chemistry for a couple of glances with toyla? fuck no. freddy and amita care so much about their characters and have spent hours discussing the books as well as giving us believable performances about two people who are deeply traumatized but want to be together
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Odra: An everlasting underwater music experimenthttps://t.co/Mea9Bnj4dz#threejs #webgl #tonejs pic.twitter.com/nwAMVXzd1r
— Marpi (@marpi_) June 29, 2017
An everlasting underwater music experiment.
“I always wanted to make music, but I've never tried, and this is the way I did graphics, so I just applied what I knew about generative 3d into sounds ... so I extruded patterns from music, the way i understood it, and then put all the rules together ...
We learnt how to build an 8 step sequencer with various effects. It wasn't as hard as I thought it’ll be once we’ve broken down the steps. The hard part was figuring out how to get the steps running and implementing tonejs in the framework.
did u see all the ppl turning on the sab show after they made the ‘tonej’ comment? (far, far too late for fans to try and care abt inej’s trauma now lol but that’s not the point)
do you think they’ll be a subtle shift and more people will start to realise how harmful the show/showrunners are now that the honeymoon phase is over?
I'm not sure which part of that whole post was more offensive: framing Kaz's trauma as a flaw and inconvenience, completely ignoring Inej's own sexual trauma, or trying to put a canonically aroace character in a relationship.
And all of that from one of the show's writers. I honestly don't even need to write analysis of why this Shadow and Bone is a shit show anymore, they're doing it for me themselves
OdraProject by marpi is an interactive generative music album...
Odra
Project by marpi is an interactive generative music album that runs in-browser, complete with editable sequencer and an animated polygon diorama:
Odra: An everlasting underwater music experimenthttps://t.co/Mea9Bnj4dz#threejs #webgl #tonejs http://pic.twitter.com/nwAMVXzd1r
— Marpi (@marpi_) June 29, 2017
An everlasting underwater music experiment.
“I always wanted to make music, but I’ve never tried, and this is the way I did graphics, so I just applied what I knew about generative 3d into sounds … so I extruded patterns from music, the way i understood it, and then put all the rules together …
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