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rainismalyce · 1 year
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Edits of an autism creature nonverbal communication image for Quadrant romance
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Bonus: Flushed Pity Version
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paleon-todd-ogy · 7 months
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08< 4 U
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vexwerewolf · 4 months
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I love how trolls who are arguing in public get accused of flirting with bystanders for an auspistice
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juney-blues · 1 year
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Personally I think it’s hilarious that a huge part of Homestuck’s “quadrant” system is “while this is a broader and more expansive view of Love than our typical human one, it is still unnecessarily limiting and most participants tend to find fulfilment in love that either trancends or lies outside of it.” and yet people still have stupid arguments like “ummm moirails can’t kiss it’s explicitly *not* romantic love like we think about it” like holy shit dude how did you miss the point so hard lmao
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uselessthebroccoli · 9 months
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I am not sorry
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vriskerfic8ion · 24 days
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Coining Post - Alterniromantic
8ehold... my dogshit flagmaking skills.
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This is an aromantic spectrum orient8ion in which you are aromantic in human terms, 8ut not in troll terms. You can't feel human romance, 8ut you can feel troll romance in one or more quadrants.
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roomwithavoid · 8 months
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ok so basically
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hyenarena · 1 year
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the only difference between the lego batman movie and holy musical b@man is the character thats obsessed with batman throughout it.
also using homestuck quadrants to define relationships in media is just so right and correct and accurate
also batman is bruce wayne’s fursona.
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felonsgenders · 1 year
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✦ quadrant based attraction - a revamp
the quadrant system is a model of attraction created by the webcomic homestuck. while someone has already broken down the quadrants into facets of attraction here, we figured we would take our own stab at it! (with permission from the original creator of course!) this is meant for anyone interested in the concept, although it helps to have prior knowledge! if you find this attraction model appealing, a wikipedia page exists that explains it well here, but we'll be going in depth ourselves under the cut!
and now for a more in depth explanation of quadrants and each facet of attraction! as you can see, there are four quadrants - matespritship or matespritian (heart), moirallegiance or moirallegian (diamond), kismesissitude or kismesian (spade), and auspisticism or auspistian (club).
they're divided into two groups: red romance fueled by love/positive feelings, and black romance fueled by negative feelings/hate. you can have multiple people in one quadrant, or only one, the concept of quadrants is polyamorous by default, but some choose to have only one moirail, kismesis etc. you can also have different sexualities for different quadrants! for example: you could be a gay man who is exclusively in matespritships with men, but could be in a moirallegiance with anyone of any gender. you could also be in an auspisticism with multiple genders, this is because both moirallegiance and auspisticism are usually based on platonic feelings as opposed to romantic or sexual. this does not invalidate the person's status as a gay man, it's just how they would do quadrants!
flipping or "vacillating" between quadrants is a natural occurrence as well. the feelings you may have for someone can be complicated and if you feel you'd want to be moirails with someone as opposed to in a kismesissitude or any other form of vacillation it's just something to talk over with your quadmate!
now, specifics for each quadrant will be under the cut!
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red romance -
matesprites: matespriteship is closest to what we know as traditional romance, it is love for another person romantically and being in a relationship with them. it is also known as the flush quadrant. it's an alternative to traditional romance in the sense that it's a few new terms for how we view romance. singular: matesprite informal: flushmate verbal: i'm in hearts with x, i'm flush for x symbol: <3, ♥
moirails: moirallegiance is equated better in human terms to queerplatonic relationships, and it's an incredibly important quadrant. it is important to note that while close to a queerplatonic human relationship, it is still a form of romance and should be treated as such. moirails keep each other stable and grounded, they are there to help one another and they are extremely close. they participate in moirail based activities such as feelings jams, sessions in which the moirails will vent or talk about their feelings with support from their moirail. there are also shoosh paps, in which you shoosh someone to calm them and pap them as well (a little pat to ground them). your moirail also checks over relationships you have, they are in charge of keeping you safe as you are in charge of keeping them safe, it is a mutual support system based on deep love for one another! moirallegiance is a conciliatory quadrant, meaning it is typically not a sexual relationship, but every moirallegiance is different and has different boundaries/ways of existing! it's not all the fluffiest stuff, you can always have banter with your moirail, as long as deep down you both know how much you both care for one another. in the end it's all about how YOU work with your relationships! singular: moirail informal: palemate/diamond verbal: i'm in diamonds with x, i'm pale for x symbol: <>, ♦
black romance -
kismesis: a kismesissitude is a relationship founded on mutual respect and hatred. usually a kismesis is accompanied by underlying sexual attraction but you can be any orientation and have a kismesis. there are of course different ways to be in a kismesis with someone, but the general concept is that you both hate each other in ways that will build the other up, the constant one uppage of the relationship forces either kismesis to try and be a better person than they once were, either to prove a point or to rub it in the face of their kismesis. the most important thing to remember though is a kismesis is founded on respect just as much as it is hatred. without respect, it could very quickly turn abusive, which is obviously not okay. when dealt with healthily, a kismesis is a very good quadrant to have, it stabilizes the rest of your quadrants by giving you someone who you can be angry with and at, someone who will be angry with and at you, and someone who will constantly challenge you as a person. there is often times lots of banter/snarky remarks. singular: kismesis informal: pitchmate/spade verbal: I'm in spades with x, I'm pitch for x symbol: <3<, ♠
auspistice: an auspisticism involves three people: two people who would be in a kismesis and one who mediates between them. the auspice is in charge of making sure two in a hypothetical kismesis don't get out of hand and harm each other or others around them, as its an entirely possible occurance. when you are an auspice it is your job to make sure that your pair stay in line, if they don't there could be dire consequences and people could get hurt. the auspice is the only one feeling ashen for the pair, as the pair are constantly attempting to be in a kismesissitude. there are often feelings of fond exasperation towards an auspice's pair.
singular: auspistice informal: ashenmate/clubs verbal: I'm in clubs with x, I'm ashen for x symbol: o8<, ♣
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vanta007 · 7 months
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im going to hell for making this
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relaxxattack · 1 year
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i am a little confused on the homestuck quadrants i think they're called? you know, the ones with the card symbols, could you explain those?
BOY COULD I !!!!!!!!! ( <- has a special interest in this and is vibrating at the speed of light )
alright, so, first of all there's four of them. one for each card symbol.
humans use the heart symbol for our romance (♥) but since troll romance is so much more complicated, they use four symbols. hence where the card deck comes from.
i'm going to try to explain this as simply as possible when it's really incredibly complicated stuff- i mean, human romance is the same and there's only one of it- so just bear with me here, haha.
matespritship ♥
when a troll feels flushed towards someone, and dates them in the flushed quadrant, that's their matesprit. this quadrant is one of the physical/reproductive ones, and it's based on positive emotions (pity). it's similar to human romance, i would say, although possibly with less emotional leeway.
pretty easy, so let's move on.
kismesissitude ♠
this is the pitch quadrant, your pitch partner is called your kismesis. this one is also a physical/reproductive quadrant, but instead of being about positive emotions (pity) it's based on negative ones (hate).
this is someone that you hate so much you want to be in a relationship with them about it. in better terms, they're your rival. the person you are driven to challenge and fight, and always be better than.
the partners in this relationship must be equal and hate each other equally, otherwise there's no point. because if they aren't equal how are they challenging or fighting one another? they must also respect each other and actually want to better each other, for similar reasons.
here's a quote from karkat i really like about the respect you have to feel towards your kismesis to properly challenge and hate each other:
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*alt text in image. full quote: x
pitch romance is important to trolls, and it's not just about fucking someone you hate like people generally like to assume.
moirallegiance ♦
a troll's pale partner is also called their moirail. this is the first of the non-reproductive relationships. although some people might tell you this is like a platonic best friendship, that is false. a moirallegiance is a romance. and it's a very important one in troll society- in fact it is practically a job!
the purpose of a moirail is to protect a dangerous troll from themselves and others. this means to tend to them emotionally, to guard their heart, to watch out for their other relationships. you know everything about this troll, you help with their mental issues and their place in the world. the main focus of this is to calm them down, usually, as many trolls have rage issues.
moirails will often be closer to each other than other quadrants, and build nest-like piles together to canoodle in while they talk about their feelings. it's all very intimate, really.
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*alt text in image. full quote: x
(canon will tell you that dangerous, violent trolls are always palemates with even-tempered, "good" trolls who tend them. but i personally don't believe this to be true. a moiraillegiance, like any relationship, gives both partners benefits if it lasts. for example, you may assume nepeta simply calms equius, but there's plenty of evidence that he does his best to protect her in different ways too.)
auspisticism ♣
an ashen mediator, or an auspistice, is a facilitator between a pair of trolls who feel themselves starting to hate each other. the point of this auspistice, or middle leaf, is to foster communication and calm down both parties at once, to stop them from letting their annoyance towards each other develop into an actual pitch relationship. this is also one of the non-reproductive relationships.
usually this is because it would interfere with another relationship or friendgroup as a whole, possibly by causing pitch infidelity.
this is probably the most confusingly defined troll romantic relationship, and definitely the most underrated. it would be nice to know more about it.
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in the end, we have these four types of romantic relationship.
the top two, or the red romances, are the ones that are based on positive pity.
the lower two, or the black romances, are based on negative emotions, hate.
the left two are concupiscent- aka dealing with sexual reproduction. the right two are conciliatory, aka dealing with calming someone else down.
that's the simplest way i can put troll romance. i hope it makes sense? feel free to ask me any questions :]
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glitch-1983 · 9 months
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They're kismesises your honour. <3<  ♠
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Tell me I'm wrong
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Kismesises!!
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They hate one another! They are pure pitch romance!!
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It's so obvious!! Textbook Kismesitude! Hatred/Contempt/Rivalry!
They! Are! Kismesises!
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histrionicscribbler · 7 months
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SO, THERE ARE FOUR QUADRANTS—
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flashys-corner · 26 days
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sometimes i forgot homestuck quadrants aren't a real thing to most people. like i can't say "my moirail is the best" to someone in real life but i do anyways. and then i have to go "no i mean best friend".
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celticcatgirl2 · 1 month
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“Now you know what to do with this don’t you you damn dirty Homestuck….”
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