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queermarzipan · 2 years
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I have had a headcanon about why Five founded the Commission rattling around in my head since like three days after I watched season 3 and I just sort of integrated it into my thoughts on the show and I was just reminded that ACTUALLY IT'S NOT "COMMON KNOWLEDGE" IT'S NOT CANON IT'S A PERSONAL HEADCANON so here it is
The Five who founded the Commission is not Five. As in, he has had roughly the same life as the Five we know from the show, but they are not the same person, because Old Five did it with the crucial difference of doing it without the Commission. The Commission wasn't a factor in this Five's life, because as we have seen, Time does not work like that. Closed loops that paradoxically set themselves off don't exist. Five travelling back in time was always going to result in him changing what had (from his perspective) already happened, not causing it to happen. So from the opposite perspective, a Five that founded the Commission could not, under any circumstance, have previously encountered the Commission. Because on Five's personal timeline, it didn't exist yet.
(Getting excited about the fact that I now know why the Commission has a Fixed Timeline of its own like Five does — because a Five is there)
So what does this mean?
I think it's safe to assume that the Five who wasn't picked up by the Commission was unsuccessful, the first time around, in preventing the Apocalypse. Apart from the whole issue of him simply Not Knowing Enough, if he'd initially succeeded and gotten his family back, he would have had no reason to ever time travel again, let alone create a time travel organisation to "protect the flow of time", and especially not one that had goals that conflicted with his family's continued living.
So he jumped back to redo — and made the same mistake as before. He went too far back.
Now, do I think he went back to the 1960s, Dallas specifically? No. I think Young Five's jump in the show was affected by the JFK assassination having been the last place he was before he jumped to 2019, and expecting the exact same outcome with different variables is not smart.
BUT. He did take them back to before they were born, AND somehow prevent them from being born in the first place. Whether that's by (roughly) the same series of events in the show (highly improbable) or by talking to Reginald and impressing upon him that it was his fault they ended the world, and to please leave them alone, thereby inadvertently causing Reginald to decide not to release the glowing orbs after all (slightly more likely, but this theory also required some of the miracle babies to exist), or something else, he gets hus siblings back to the changed 2019 to find that he's created a (not yet named) Kugelblitz.
And then Reggie uses the miracle babies to create his perfect universe — and this is the sticking point — killing Five's siblings in the process.
Here we have Five, in a new universe where none of his family exist because their lives were literally used to save the world, without even his powers, and he immediately invents time travel and creates the Commission, an organisation with the end goal of recreating the exact timeline he came from, and by proxy, his family. Only everyone else he brings into it is just fed the "preservation of the timeline" line, because what he's doing is Selfish with a capital S. But also, I might argue, in character. Five taking "do anything to save his family" to the level of "create an organisation of time assassins to recreate his family" is very on-brand.
And when he encounters a younger version of himself — could be 13, could be 63 — he can only tell him "don't save the world", because if he hadn't tried to do that — if he'd just died in the first apocalypse — he might have at least gotten to see his siblings again in the afterlife. Now he can't.
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After s2 whenever Klaus does something stupid and sparrow!Ben isn't around they wait for umbrella!Ben to chastise them for it since he got so used to it and he finds the new returning silence unnerving so they made a habit of doing very stupid things in front of his siblings so someone can fill Ben's place
It doesn't actually make Klaus feel better about umbrella!Ben being gone nor does it stop him from doing really stupid shit while no one's looking but he likes to pretend
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stephsageek · 2 years
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Did not foresee my tua post getting any traction, but it did so here I am asking the masses questions, Would anyone care for a trans Five fic because I have IDEAS.
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lowkeyrobin · 19 hours
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Could I request, what dating sparrow!ben hargreeves would be living a peaceful life possible after season 4 (let’s pretend like it never happened) preference or one shot (you decide)
Peaceful life- like the plans he said to Jennifer in the car, moving away, etcetera
P.s I loveeeeeee your tua and descendants writing keep up the amazing work 🫶🏻🫶🏻
aweee stop this is so cute 💔💔💔 ; also yes went for hc cause no way am I figuring out how to oneshot that shit ; also thank you 🫶🫶 I appreciate it lol ; also if there's supposed to be an anon emoji down there I can't see it 💀💀 it's just an [obj] box, prob cause I have an android and we don't have the same emojis as iphones n shit lmao ; thanks for requesting, hope you enjoy! ; ps idk why I couldn't find that scene so I just kinda made some shit up lmfao
SPARROW! BEN ; runaways
summary ; your perfect life after running away with Ben except it doesn't end the world
warnings ; language
disclaimers ; no jail time for Ben / no s4 at all ig, reader isn't a brellie but refers to them as siblings + as kind of like an add on to them like lila
word count ; 363
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you and ben, after falling in love during the s3 era, decided you should just run away together
he'd taken a fond liking of you considering you were both so oddly peaceful when it came to just the two of you
the wedding at the end of the world really solidified it
and then you made out!
but after resetting the timeline and losing your powers, there was nothing to really stick around for
considering you wiped out all the marigold and sloane had disappeared (considering she would've never been born or was erased somehow) and your siblings had all gone off to live their lives, it was time you did too
you only knew Ben for like two weeks before you actually fell for each other so learning about one another was really fun
you packed up your bags (or what remained of them) and headed to wherever the back roads could take you
in the car you learned about each other's music taste and your hobbies, and all the sights you wanted to see around the world
the road took you to south carolina
you stayed on the beach for a week and it was honestly really nice
thank god you were able to steal thousands from sparrow-reggies secret stash lol
there you discovered Ben's hatred for water...
but after a week or so you packed up again and headed west
you drove around the country for about three years just sightseeing and living the most you could considering the two of you never really saw anything outside of home
but after a while, you had to settle down somewhere and make a proper life for yourselves
you both craved to be normal people, to pay bills and taxes and hold down jobs, maybe even make a family, as fucked as it was
I mean, trillionaires son moves to the middle of nowhere to live like a normal person? kinda crazy
you built a house on some old farmland on the outskirts of a little town, surrounded by forest and acres of empty land
you call around the family every once in a while, wanting to know how they're doing and what they're up to
ben couldn't really care tho, he only rlly cares for you, the others weirded him out
you couldn't blame him tho since he barely knew them and they knew a different version of him
when you're on the phone, head tilted as both hands are occupied by biscuit mix that you were mixing up, he stands by you with a soft smile on his face, helping you morph them into balls and put them on the tray
think a 90s type of house, very brown, window seats, etc
you live such a sweet ass life man
you sit on the front porch swing and drink coffee while you watch the sunrise
and in winter you cuddle up by the fireplace and watch shitty hallmark movies
you even started a YouTube channel for shits and giggles where you watch awful movies on cable TV and commentate over them because it's funny
you have a calico cat named sorbet
you have a strawberry garden in the backyard that surrounds the porch
and you go out to eat every friday
so many hugs from behind from the other when one is cooking
sweet kisses on the temple as well
so cavity causing sweet
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ancorites · 2 years
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Zgood day! random question, what are your favorite hcs for any character/s you can think of and/or want to talk about atm?
to be honest ive never really had headcanons for characters pre-viktor or im too autistic about tua rn to remember them rn but i headcanoned him as trans like a month before elliot page came out which is funny and then currently headcanon him as having autism and bpd #slay. also with him starting to smoke cause of sissy in s2 i feel like with his poor coping mechanisms he would definitely continue to smoke and was going through packs offscreen in s3
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jellybeanium124 · 2 years
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Five, dropping the family braincell in 1963: don't need this anymore, I'm retiring :D Five, approximately 48 hours later: oh no
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dykefive · 2 years
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there’s still time to celebrate your newest brother at the end of the world <3 happy pride from the hargreeves
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You know it wouldn't be hard for the writers to explain why Five has been looking older than he used to be. It could be the strain time travelling has done to his body.
In the s1 finale he time travelled with 6 other passengers!!! for the first time in his life!!! BOOM a reason why he looks older in s2!
And in s2 he fucking REWOUND TIME!!!! BOOM another reason why he aged and now looks even older in s3!!!
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sweetpastillas · 2 years
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Jayme: there's a lot of things a teenager wants
Jayme: I'll let this funky one see someone he likes
Jayme: lol this kid's gonna be so cringe
Jayme:
Jayme: wait—
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iheardarumorhoe · 3 years
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hcs of dating vanya after being childhood friends? x
ily @emobensgf2 ty for the request not that i threatened you or anything
HCs for dating childhood friend!Vanya
i rlly hope none of this isnt inaccurate timeline-wise 😭
- you never really had a constant "home" growing up
- you had loved her for a while and wanted to get it off your chest
- but you thought she'd reject you
- so you decided not to tell her you had feelings for her at all
- until she noticed you acting weird n asked what was up
- you told her everything and surprisingly she felt the same way
- " I've seriously been confused about my feelings for you since we were kids"
- youre super supportive of her
- especially around her family
- you told them off once after Luther started talking shit about her
- the siblings weren't allowed friends over after dinner
- so some nights you snuck into Vanya's room while the rest of the academy were asleep
- and you'd bring snacks and tell stories and sneak out places
- honestly without you she never would have done anything growing up, not that she did when you were there either
- at the sleepovers you had she'd tell you secrets
- so you know more about her than anyone else
- it def scares her sometimes when you know what shes thinking of before she says anything
- you and the Hargreeves sit front row at all her concerts and cheer her on
- you make it a point to take her out on a dinner date after them all
- youre v protective over her
- and you guys love each other more than anything else in the whole world<3
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thrillorarc · 3 years
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i am going to be SO MAD if s3 of tua doesn’t explore the fucked up relationship ben has with his ability , and how him 1) not being shown love and compassion during childhood and 2) not dying young creates an absolutely fucked up , overly traumatized man
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kirikechi · 4 years
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wait wait wait what if sparrow ben’s picture on the wall is just a child-of-the-week award and that's why he wasn't stood with the others because they were mid-ceremony
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watcher0033 · 4 years
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For real tho, what if the Horror recognizes the Umbrellas and instead of turning them into dog food, he greeted each of them with enthusiastic full-body pats that slammed them to the ground?
The Horror: FrienDs!! :D :D *pats the Umbrellas like their eldritch pet dogs*
The Umbrellas: *coughs up blood* It's an attack! Run!
The Sparrows: *smug*
The Horror: NONO NOO-! COME BACK! FRIENDS!!! ಢ_ಥ ಢ_ಥ
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ay4kshalatus · 2 years
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mental manipulation wanda!y/n x f.hargreeves hcs
spoilerrssss tua s3, important notice 📢
alas...
the umbrella academy was now replaced by some bunch of "low-keys". it's what you called for them.
learning their abilities one by one. with all honesty, they're no better than the original group but what stands out most is their combat skills.
ben is being ben. nothing really change with him except his bratty attitude.
while marcus are in the middle of shooing you all, jayme use her powers on diego. spitting a venom that causes the victim to have hallucinations.
you decided to entertain yourself, mind walking on diego's mind.
dear... it was a mess. you never expected diego, thinking of having a dance battle against the sparrows.
concerning but it's entertaining.
you see jayme dancing with five with a ridiculous position.
teasing five later by flicking him off the ground as your illusion self using telekinesis on him to help him up, grabbing his hand and twirl him around.
you stopped as your left arm put behind his back under his arm with the free arm is held up high while your bodies leans down. "now you'll be dancing with me."
then you guys continued with swing dance style.
it's nice to see diego taking their relationship seriously. it take them a while to accept the fact that you and five are married.
you put it a stop, getting rid the effects off. the illusion takes too long for your liking. jayme was aware of this.
you showed potential on diego's dreamland plus you purified the illusion with ease. your powers are too good to be true.
but she made a mistake. instead of being alert with you, she ignore those red flags.
she spat a venom on five, giving him illusion of your pretty form approaching him. you suddenly appeared behind her and give her much worse, manipulating her consciousness.
what makes you a psychopath is you have fun controlling people's minds, much to jayme's dismay.
in her point of view, you're everywhere. your whispers are all over the place that she didn't even noticed she's on the edge of the stairs.
you kicked her off, causing her to roll down off the stairs. no one should underestimate the power of mental manipulation.
as usual, five is still making out on air. you know who is on the illusion of his. your face morphed to a tomato, swiftly dismissing the effects out of him.
five realizing he's hallucinating, he quickly regain his posture. "five come on. we have to get going."
the moment he saw your red ears, he knew he messed up.
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reblogs and comments are highly appreciated!! -pamcake
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thecosywinteremo · 2 years
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More tua s3 thought splurging, Viktor and Five themed
I wanted a lot more Viktor and Five teamup ngl I didn't realise I had high hopes before they were crushed 😭 I loved that Five trusted Viktor at the end and they kinda worked together with their little checkmate and all but I wish we'd had more bc they're both v intelligent planners and they would make such a badass team besides the fact that I am forcibly making them besties in my head (bc based on s1 and even s2 to an extent you can't tell me that Five and Viktor weren't a dynamic duo as kids, even if only on the dl, so can we get some of that back? We were cruelly teased with a Viktor and Five teamup at the end then Five just walks away ughhh)
And yes Viktor probably should have like not made some of the decisions he made in terms of having his own little plans and just sorta doing them but also that's a Hargreeves family special I'm just happy to see him take the initiative. And it's not necessarily worse than what e.g Diego was attempting in s2.
Which brings me to: the rest of the siblings need to trust Viktor more! He would be able to contribute a lot more if they didn't see him through a lens of 'blew up the moon' or 'sweet naive brother who is easily led' all the time. Like I loved the fact that they were all protective of Viktor when they thought Harlan was manipulating or abusing him but also guys! Listen to the man! Nowadays he's usually about to make a relatively good decision (usually) and has a relatively sharp eye for detail etc and is v intelligent and overall as on it as the rest of them and it would help everyone to recognise that.
Also Five's like 'don't become a villain' WE'VE DONE THAT ARC FIVE. The moon, remember. But appreciate your concern and ngl threatening to kill him doesn't even cramp my besties hcs that much bc tbh I feel like Five would kill any of the siblings and just feel really bad about it inside afterwards. Plus he bet on Viktor winning an argument against Allison and intervened (alongside Diego bc ik Diego and Viktor's comics counterparts were friends as kids and they're my second fave sibling relationship involving Viktor on the show, tied with Viktor and Allison) when he'd deemed Allison to have gone too far so we all know he still has a soft spot for Viktor and it's just generally obvious Viktor has a soft spot for him, though maybe Allison is taking the lead in his good books bc she trusts him.
Which brings me to my other point, that Allison and Viktor and Five are the most at each other's throats bc lowkey they're the most similar in a lot of ways BUT I will not elaborate on that here bc this is long.
Would have loved to see Viktor hang out one on one with Diego bc their little moment with putting their heads together in s2 is so sweet but the 'good, you are' made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and the aforementioned standing up so.
Five making friends with Sloane and moreover hanging out with Klaus! Five and Lila enemies to frenemies! Five being like know what I'm going through it I'm having a break!
Now Five and Viktor better have like a full buddy cop thing or roommates situation or something going on in s4 if there is one bc there's so much to unpack with them as brothers, as extremely powerful individuals with extremely powerful regrets, and as individuals who in different ways have never quite related to and found their niche in the world the same way others had (ik Viktor found his place with Sissy but that was also a precarious place and he didn't really find himself until this season and then he hardly has time to settle into a new life and before that he was living in a drugged up fog, and Five has never had real stability so they work out a home and launching pad and their petty passions and moral and philosophical grappling together okay!! At least until the next big event comes along.
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