I don't know if you've discussed this before but I don't really get madols/thaumarks in terms of value.
I thought it was like yen as in the anthology Azul is fretting over a 100(100 yen is 0.65 usd) coin and they all think he's paranoid, making 100 madol seem insignificant.
But then 50,000(yen to usd is 316 usd) madol for an item is supposed to be crazy expensive? As shown in the prologue.
Which isn't much for the exchange rate.
At the end of book 3 it states that the menu in the mostro lounge is then priced at 5-16 thaumark an item????
It makes no sense
I talked about the difference between thaumarks (in EN, similar to the American dollar) and madol (in JP, similar to the Japanese yen) in this post. You will find many examples there as well!
You might be confused about the value of thaumarks and madol because currently the yen irl is weak. For reference, right now 100 yen is 0.65 or 65 cents in USD (not even a full dollar). However, I believe that the “true” exchange rate for thaumark to madol is more accurately described as 100 yen for every 1 dollar/1.00 USD. This results in a "cleaner" converted number and is closer to the value of the yen to dollar (106 yen to 1 dollar) when TWST first came out in 2020–though EN would not come out until a few years later. In 2024, the conversion is closer to 150 yen for 1 dollar, and this difference is probably what resulted in your confusion.
Knowing this, a thaumark is actually 1/100 the value of a madol. Just move the decimal point of the numver over to the left by two spaces to do the madol to thaumark conversion! This would make the value of a 50,000 yen/madol item actually closer to 500 dollars/thaumarks.
It should be noted that the broken chandelier in the prologue is stated to be worth “a billion” or more in both EN’s thaumarks and JP’s madol. Some numerical values like this are left unchanged between the two servers.
In real life, the value of currencies fluctuates all the time! But in a game like TWST, the currencies can be stabilized and unchanging regardless of what happens in the real world. That's likely the case in this situation.
In the anthology comic you referenced, the whole joke IS that Azul is fretting over what is a miniscule amount of missing money because he is just that stingy. The 100 madol coin and its 1 thaumark (or 100 sorcents) equivalent are supposed to be seen as not a lot of currency. He's overreacting over some change in both JP and EN currencies.
As for the pricing of menu items at the Mostro Lounge, I don't think the values are strange at all. The prices quoted, however, are a little off. The items mentioned in book 3 actually range from 6-15 thaumarks or 600-1500 madol.
Azul explains that the drinks on the menu are 6 thaumarks/dollars (600 madol/yen). This is even more expensive than asking for a glass of juice or soda at a restaurant (a few dollars or a few hundred yen). It’s about the same price as a specialty drink (think like a mocktail or something). Putting that another way, that’s about the same cost as a tall Starbucks drink.
Azul also says that there is a limited menu with items for 15 thaumarks/dollars (1500 madol/yen), which I imagine are like the lunch sets or desserts. Many cafes and especially anime/manga collab cafes (which are notorious for being costly) have similar pricing for their dishes; in some cases.
Here is an example of a menu from a Tokyo Mew Mew collab cafe (although you can find several others with matching prices or cost even more):
Let's also keep in mind that Azul only stated that items on THIS particular limited collab menu were 15 thaumarks/dollars or 1500 madol/yen each. We don't know if other limited collab menus or if the regular item menus are higher/lower cost. We should be cautious of using the 6-15 thaumarks/dollars or 600-1500 madol/yen range to cover the entirety of the food and drink prices that Mostro Lounge offers. For example, in Azul’s Dorm Uniform vignettes, he specifies that he’s selling the Mystery Drink for 1500 madol/yen or 15 thaumarks/dollars, which is significantly more than (/over double) the usual cost of a Mostro Lounge drink. If you got the mystery drink with your lunch, you’d already be in at $30 or 3,000 yen for a single meal—and again, this is only if you don’t count extra costs for tax and/or tip.
Let's do some math terrifying, I know... Deuce is shaking for what I assume is the regular order for a student dining in. We will order 1 drink and 1 item from the limited menu. Without tax (and tip, if Twisted Wonderland has that), this alone would cost you $21 or 2,100 yen. It'll cost even more if you order extra drinks or dessert. I imagine that just the 1 drink and 1 limited menu item together already cost significantly more than what you can get to eat at the school cafeteria.
Because NRC is based on a British boarding school, let's use the irl cost of the average British high school's lunch costs (2-3 pound sterling, according to Google) to compare. 2-3 pound sterling is about 3.70 USD or 370 yen. Even if we were to assume that a private British boarding school would charge significantly more for food (because it's a "fancier" institution)—be it double, triple, or quadruple the price—students would still be paying a fraction of what one casual meal at the Mostro Lounge would cost. Not only that, but NRC students are getting more bang for their buck in the cafeteria, since food is served buffet style. You get a lot more variety and amount of food for much less initial cost. Comparatively, Mostro Lounge is the expensive option (even if most of the main cast seem to be from pretty well-off families and could probably afford eating there daily, no problem 🤡). The average high school student has no income, has limited allowance, or earns minimum wage, so that cost of a fancy Mostro Lounge meal would take quite a bite from their personal spending budget.
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from the savanaclaw manga
MALLEUS NATION AWAKEN THIS INSTANT!!!!!🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
THE OFFICIAL ART THAT HE HAS IRRESISTIBLE SOFT SEXY KISSABLE ENTICING LIPS HAS BEEN RELEASED!!!!!!!
OUHHHHHGHHG HES SO PERFECT SO ALLURING SO GORGEOUS SO TERRIFYINGLY BEAUTIFUL AND FOR WHAT‼️‼️‼️‼️
I LOVE THIS ARTSTYLE SO MUCH OHMYGOD OHMYGODSHDJ AJDJAJ
do you see how delicate his hair is drawn here?????
it feels like its swaying softly as he stares down at the viewer... and the magnifying sharp gaze of his eyes to contrast the softness of his hair??? I LOVE IT
his hair here looks so curly so fluff... 🥺 oh i feel like im just going to cry about it all... what a good day to wish i could be a stone brick at diasomnia castle today just to see his noble beauty everyday.... 😩
I SWEARR I LOVE HOW HIS LIPS IS DRAWN HERE OH MU GOODNESS WHAT BEAUTIFUL LIPS‼️‼️‼️ HES COMPLETE WITH HIS LIPSTICK AND EYESHADOW ✨✨✨💗💕💕💞💕 LIKE YESSSS THAT IS MALLEUS DRACONIA DORM LEADER OF DIASOMNIA FUTURE KING OF BRIAR VALLEY‼️‼️‼️😭😭💞💕💞💕
I CAN FEEL THE ARTIST GAVE THEIR EVERYTHING ON THIS PANEL OMG 💖💕💖💕💕💕
on a side note... why is Silver and Sebek and Lilia's faces not drawn completely.... dang... they really wanted us to *look* at Malleus... 🤣🤣🤣 who are you competing in being the emphasis of this panel... you already have horns lol no need to decrease the details of ur knights istgg... XD
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Octavinelle Manga leaks
I (partly) colored in a panel from the new Twisted Wonderland Octavinelle manga. I love the way this panel looks, props to the artist- Jade looks very intimidating and scary, it looks amazing!
I'm very excited for the Manga to officially release and to see Azul's overblot drawn out.
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