#verona hayward

[ariapmdeol]

kennet trio tests... ill figure out how i want them to look eventually,, these probably will change a lot

[eddathegreat]

One of the tropes I most hate is when a story ends and all the fantastical stuff goes away. It sort of validates the idea that the story was just meaningless escapism from Real Life and now that the characters have grown up it's time to live the prescribed normative experiences. It's this idea that the fun stuff was just childhood fancy, that the story you just got invested in was only a respite.

Pale did not do this, nor should it have, even though it really could have. The world of Practice is horrifying and grim and slimy, and the main characters would have had ever right to throw up their hands and wish they could return to a normal life.

But they don't. Because Verona found her niche, outside of the norms and constraints of Innocent culture and society, and she was right to do so. Because Avery found friends, a whole *realm* of potential new friends, and endless opportunities to meet them, and a great experience she can share with a life partner. Lucy had the most reason to want a normal life again (and I think it was on purpose that she got back into more Innocent stuff), the world of Practice held even more battles for her, but she also found allies, she found tools that she could use, she found a whole new context to think about, and she found new ways to grow. Their coming of age was not just solving the problem in front of them so that they wouldn't have to deal with it anymore, it was growing up in the larger context they were made aware of and, despite the trials, being stronger and better off for it.

And as I started writing this, I realized that this was a fucking metaphor for getting into fandom as a kid.

[iknownparadoxi]

(By Stray Feathers, who apparently doesn't have a tumblr account)

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[0ctobre]

Happy Halloween!

[victoriadallonfan]

Lucy, Verona, and Avery Lineart sketches

(Hey did you know drawing masks fucking sucks)

[mechanical-prophet]

No idea what they're discussing, something horrible probably. Took a lot of restraint to keep Wicked Hat's hat a reasonable size and only a slightly above average number of belts.

[ladez]

[skitterstan]

nettlewisp, nettlewisp, nettlewisp

The three girls cook up a spell

traced on the witches by William Edward Frost

[greatwyrmgold]

Wildbow's protagonists get hit by Truck-kun and reincarnate in other Wildbow worlds.

[fran-valz]

Verona hanging out with her other friends

[bad-pun-king]

I’ve been getting into homestuck recently and stumbled across classpects as a concept awhile ago. I got curious and went to see if any Wildbow protagonists had been given classpects in crossover speculation. I was only able to find any for Taylor, probably because fans of both like to compare her to Vriska from what I’ve seen, with arguments for Taylor being a Page of Rage, Witch of Doom, or Bard of Heart.

I’d like to go over each protagonist personally, but it’s been too long since I read Worm, Ward, or Pact and reading those I was still all in on how the narrator sees things and bad at reading into the narration instead of just reading it, so those 3 all kind of blend together in my head too much for me to try them. I might do Sy, but I haven’t thought him much yet for it.

What I want to do right now is give classpects to Verona, Lucy, and Avery, based on my understanding of the classes and aspects I’ve been able to pick up.

Verona I would say is probably a Mage of Heart. Her arc has been more less about getting her to find a good place for her Self. She couldn’t really be herself with Brett always being nearby ready to whine to her about some bullshit or another, treating her as daughter and wife at the same time despite her age, and never appreciating any of the work she actually did until she just stopped doing it all together. Now she has her demesne that allows her to have her own home as she wants it, it’s become a hangout spot for all her closest friends, and she doesn’t have to worry about invaders doing any sort of harm to her, emotionally like Brett or even physically in most cases. Not to mention she can also easily interpret and communicate with nonverbal Others like Tashlit. But that’s just why I see her as Heart. For Mage it was more or less just that loves learning about her interests so much. She’s turning her demesne into a bookstore for books that were never written, she’s easily the most well-rounded in terms of understanding practices of the 3 Kennet Witches, and she’s even experimented with different things both mundane and magical to see how she likes them, such as that friends with benefits relationship she had with Jeremy for awhile or trying out Hosting, alchemy, enchantment, among other practices. I had also considered Void for Verona on account of how easy it is for her to play around with the truth without lying outright to confuse people, but ultimately her arc is more about getting from where she hated her life and circumstances so much she wanted to give up her humanity and become virtually anything else to getting where she’s perfectly comfortable being herself and flourishing under her own power, which to me reads with the idea that Heart is about the Inner Self.

Avery was probably the easiest of the trio. Maid of Blood. It’s my understanding that Blood is supposed to be about relationships and connections, and Avery has become something of an embodiment of networking with how many friends and contacts she’s built up over the course of Pale, and that’s all starting from a point where she could go months at a time without anybody noticing she hadn’t said a thing because of how disconnected she was. My understanding of a Maid is someone that takes care of, creates, and maintains their aspect, and boy howdy if Avery doesn’t do that. She literally goes to the edges of reality itself via the Paths to find contacts who’d otherwise be unable to contact anyone in a meaningful way in the form of Lost, who would all otherwise be to conceptually close to the ideas associated with Breath to get anywhere in their continued existences. Avery’s also the one of the trio most likely to allow an antagonist to redeem themself for similar reasons.

Lucy was the hardest one for me to get. I’d definitely peg her as a Knight, but I can’t decide if she fits better as a Knight of Hope or a Knight of Rage. I could see her as Hope because Hope players are described as “driven first and foremost by their convictions. They do right for right's sake, and are quick to come to the aid of anyone they deem to be experiencing injustice.” That sounds extremely Lucy, but Hope as a concept also seems to be connected to the use of positive emotions to empower and accomplish where as Lucy is not someone I would describe as being emotionally positive. She is almost always on guard in some way or another, always prepared to be ‘bullet-proof’ in as many ways as possible because she’s anticipating some asshole coming up and challenging her on some arbitrary thing. Even her Sight allows her to see specifically negative emotions and pain in the form of watercolor-esc stains. This is where interpreting her as less Hopey and more Ragey comes in. She’s very tired of the way the world is. She fights tooth and nail in arguments, in magic, in duels, and in Law to gain just a bit of ground even if it isn’t as much ground as she had wanted. Training under Guilherme and Bubbleyum does seem to have taught her to be coolheaded enough not to suppress her anger but to channel it for all those sorts of fights I mentioned. Rage at the injustices of the world and especially those right in front of her that she can do something about, is what fuels her. As for why I’d put her as a Knight, that’s because Knight is the closest to how she normally operates. She doesn’t seek the knowledge the way a Mage or Seer does, she doesn’t really fit homestuck’s idea of an Heir or (ironically) Witch, she doesn’t generate or heal like a Maid or Sylph, and she isn’t destructive of any aspect like a Prince or Bard, she isn’t taking to deprive from others like a Thief or Rogue, and she certainly isn’t as selfish as she could be with her defense of what she cares about like a Page. The idea that she serves Hope for the future or exploits her own Rage or whatever it is Knights are supposed to one-worded to, Knight fits the best of the classes.

Bonus bit, going purely based off vibes I’d say Verona and Lucy are both derse dreamers while Avery would be prospit.

I’d like to do the other protagonists too but like I mentioned above it’s been too long since I read Worm, Pact, or Ward for me to do Taylor, Blake, or Victoria. I still can and might do Sy, I only recently finished Twig so he’s still fresh enough on my mind I think I could, just not now. In the meantime I’d like seeing some other people try at any or all of them. Get some speculation going for wildbow protags other than Taylor.

[refractedglade]

The Ritual in Station Promenade by reddit user u/00aquila00

[eddathegreat]

Liking Lucy for The Same Reasons as Verona

Pretty early on in the story I adored Lucy because I could relate so hard to her being sick of bullshit and just calling it out all the time.

I figured out a couple years ago that I'm neurodivergent, and one big thing with autistic people is they tend to have very strong senses of justice and are frustrated when people are not consistent or logical. Realizing Verona is neurodivergent, my first thought was wondering why I didn't relate to her more. But then I thought, 'well, she also really likes Lucy.' It makes a lot of sense that she and Lucy would be drawn together, because Verona probably found a similar sort of relief in Lucy that I did reading her. For so much of the story, you can see how they build off each other's points and are so consistently on the same page (until it comes to social/romantic stuff, where they are less in-sync).

Also, I love neurodivergent rep where the neurodivergent isn't obnoxiously wholesome. I like when neurodivergent characters have a bit of an edge to them.

[iknownparadoxi]

This latest Pale chapter (epilogue, Pale is done by the end of October at the latest don't quote me) completely overwrote my image of at least one Bad End Kenneteer.

Now instead of a permanent wolf mask Evil Avery now wears sunglasses, because she joined Wonderkand.

Bad End Kenneteers.

> The Carmine Warrior

> The Lonely Witch

> Head of Relations

Arguably still successful, but are they happy?

The Lonely Witch is actually for dramatic effect and a bit of a cry for help. Verona plays it off as a joke and aesthetic. Even if her weekly social calls with Avery or Lucy have become more monthly or bi-monthly now, and she hasn't left her demesne outside of research purposes for over a month now...

The Warrior, sorry, Lucy, is just so busy with governing her space of Canada nowadays, and is constantly keeping up with meetings with nearby polities and making sure they don't do anything *wrong*, keeping track of her ambassadors and attaches she keeps in each council is annoying, but worth it, she doesn't trust them of course. Especially when she has to expend effort to put them back in line. That's not even getting into the Lords jockeying under her, she had to fill the empty spaces and keep them in check too... all for the greater good of course, don't want another Charles or Musser around, right?

I don't know enough to feel confident writing about the Head of Relations, someone else can do it. But she's very powerful and sad like the other two I can assure you. She also has a wife, it is a strained relationship.

[adjoint-law]

Exhibit A: Verona, given the choice between opening up to her friends vs saying the first thing that pops into her head.

[victoriadallonfan]

Show Yourself (Among Us x Pale)

You're a sneaky little impostor! (Aren't you, aren't you?)

You're a sneaky little impostor! (Aren't you, aren't you?)

But you're among us

I can feel it, I can feel it in my bones!

So why don't you show yourself

And leave us all alone?

Looks like the Kennet Trio are fighting another video game Other!

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