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According to research, DID must form through childhood trauma sustained before the age of 12, (or 16 in people with ADHD) and cannot be formed without that trauma. Before I knew about the plural community, I knew about peer reviewed research papers, so that's what a lot of my knowledge is based on. As there is no room (that I can see) to doubt these studies, I'm incredibly confused about endogenic systems. I hold the opinion that endogenics are either traumagenic systems with amnesia too severe to remember their trauma, or faking the disorder. This opinion feels flawed, as a demographic this large cannot all be both malicious enough to fake and good enough actors to do so convincingly. As I am not a system, nor do I have any endogenic friends, I'm asking you what you think on the subject.
Sources:
Brand et. al 2014
Schlumpf et. al 2014
Hihi!!
You are 100% correct! The general consensus in psychology is that, yes, CDD's (complex dissociative disorders, e.g. DID/OSDD/UDD) are trauma-based disorders, and need trauma to form. Though, this does not immediately turn down the existence of non-disordered plurality, since, in the name, it has nothing to do with CDD's and that experience of plurality! The only common thread is the plurality itself! Psychology doesn't exist to disprove things; it exists to make solutions and therapies and research into phenomenon that happen within the brain. That is why the FMS Foundation is generally considered non-psychological, they are attempting to prove a negative and are additionally going about it in a dangerous way.
Endogenic plurals don't claim to have CDDs, and if they do, they are either misinformed or trolls trying to tick you off. Most endogenic plurals you will meet will never claim to have a CDD if they don't have one diagnosed.
And I agree with you when you say, "This opinion feels flawed, as a demographic this large cannot all be both malicious enough to fake and good enough actors to do so convincingly." This is what we mean when we say if there is a large community of relatively separate people experiencing the same/similar thing, it's probably a real thing that happens!
A place with some further reading to do on endogenic systems and their existence is Rainbow's Resource Hub on Discord! (link provided). Just go into the research tab and mark that you want posts tagged with "Endogenic" and there are quite a few in there!!
Thank you so much for sending in the ask!! and apologies for the wall of text :c
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#⭐ willow#we already don't care much to figure out if we're traumagenic endogenic or something else#but huh#none of us knew about adhd bringing the osdid threshold to 16#interesting#that really... hmm.#don't have any way to phrase things that id want to publicly#all i think i really want to say is that i think the worst time of our life was between the ages of 12/13ish and 15/16ish
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Fortunately, the weather is "chilly" enough (mid 60s Fahrenheit) today that I can get away with wearing clothes I enjoy. Unfortunately, I wanted to accessorize, but our jewelry box is buried on a high shelf that I don't feel like unburying before leaving for our boyfriend's house.
#⭐ willow#for context: brian tried to get atlas to clear out a specific shelf in our room#atlas malicious complianced and put things in some not great spots instead of putting them away#endo safe#plural punk#pluralgang#plurality#pluralpunk#pro endo#pro endogenetic#endo friendly
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Singlets will think having headmates is this horrible thing or whatever but really the worst part is when you don't hear from them
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I like drawing Hitch
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#⭐ matthew#brian @ me#honestly a lot of people @ me tbh#haters hate to see a girlboss winning (buying a little treat)
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why the FUCK did atlas put it on a shelf that we never use for our active storage of things (see: adhd memory issues, theres a few collective places in our room that we try and put things in that we use on a regular basis to limit the number of places to look for things)
trying to retrace one of my headmates steps from last night to figure out where the fuck it put our power bank for our phone (a friend bought it for us as a gift cuz our phone is always dying). we (probably) may not have much memory issues from plurality, but adhd memory issues are a fucking bitchhhhh
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trying to retrace one of my headmates steps from last night to figure out where the fuck it put our power bank for our phone (a friend bought it for us as a gift cuz our phone is always dying). we (probably) may not have much memory issues from plurality, but adhd memory issues are a fucking bitchhhhh
#⭐ brian#endo safe#plural punk#pluralgang#plurality#pluralpunk#pro endo#pro endogenetic#endo friendly
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the supplicants of the DSM-5 cult are going to murder me for my opinions about plurality
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new yuri image for desperate lesbians just dropped
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One like = one smooch on his little head
One reblog = granting him access to the nuclear launch codes
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Tired... but we're going to the Chicago pride parade tomorrow! So that's gonna be fun :D
Currently out with friends buying some last minute things to prepare for the parade, then I'll get to go home and sleep (until I have to wake up early to actually get to the train lmao)
#⭐ elias#if we remember well try and take some pictures to post so stay tuned :3#endo safe#plural punk#pluralgang#plurality#pluralpunk#pro endo#pro endogenetic#endo friendly
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