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they only talk about train autism and not enough about plane autism

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of course many women are gonna identify as non-binary if you tell them that womanhood is a feeling, something you have to be conected to, to feel and to be conscious of everyday. it's not. and most women actually don't feel anything. "i don't know what feeling like a woman feels like/i don't really feel connected to womanhood most of the time so i am probably not a woman and must be non-binary!" no it's just totally normal. womanhood is not a feeling. we don't go around having a constant womanly feeling and loving everything about womanhood 24/7. this idea is totally made up, and most women wouldn't know what the fuck you're talking about. same goes for "being a woman is being totally happy about your gender" no. not all women like being women, and saying this implies that being a woman is feeling good with all gender rules and stereotypes (because that's the def of gender) and not only it is false, but also sexist. being a woman isn’t a feeling or a connection, it is a reality.

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i really do not like that there are communities of men that dress up as hypersexualized, bimbo-ified caricatures of women and are celebrated for it. i do not like drag.

i do not think that drag is an innocent outlet to explore gender nonconformity. it goes beyond that -- it is a misogynistic performance of men's idea of womanhood, and it disgusts me. the fact that drag performers adopt "female" personas with feminine names and use she/her pronouns solidifies my opinion on this.

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Hi! Again, thank you so much for responding so kindly, and of course I forgive you! I am also autistic, so I sometimes may interpret things oddly, haha. As for the gender critical thing--I am someone who holds some of those viewpoints, but I highly disagree with the way that that branch of feminism views lgbtq+ people, and you can trust that no death threats come from me. I was not put on to this earth to control people--rather, to spread God's love, and that means being considerate of how others wish to be called, viewed, treated, etc.. At the same time, I try to view society through a critical lense, and even as those viewpoints do not typically affect the people around me, they help me make sense of the world.

I would definitely be open to more conversations! Again, thank you for your response!

Does Christianity Condemn Homosexuality?

Yes, and here’s why (with counterarguments to common statements).

 This will be a bit of a harder read for some people, so please feel free to skip past if this is a topic that makes you uncomfortable. This is a post aimed at people who are already Christian, although secular peeps may benefit as well. My intention is only to educate, never to hurt–I believe two people with opposite opinions can coexist and accept each other for who they are without hostility. BIG FAT TW for: religion, me being blunt, meaty theology discussion, discussion of sin relating to sexual orientation.

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Hey there! I wrote this post quite a while ago, so I was surprised to see that someone responded to it. Honestly, I think that some of the things I said probably come across as a bit tone deaf, and if I wrote this again now, I would say a lot of thing quite differently. Thank you for going in depth and engaging with each thing instead of simply insulting me. That being said, with the understanding of this topic I have now, I would like to respond to each of your points as I think you have brought up some valid information. 1. So firstly, the issue here is that sexuality in the bible is not separated between romantic attraction/love and sexual love. It is illustrated that one thing always leads to another—so therefore, relationships do exist with solely romantic love, but that is not the way that God intended for human couples to exist, as illustrated in Genesis! Not that our sole purpose is to recreate—but rather, the separation of the two loves as you have illustrated here is an interpretation that does not actually exist in Scripture. With all that in mind though, I would love to hear more of what you mean when you say that every passage relating to sexuality is separated /genuine  

 2. So there are more than a few issues with this statement—firstly, homosexuality in consenting and non consenting forms has existed for centuries, so there would have been words to describe it in a non offensive way at some point—humans will not let something go undescribed for that long. The second part to this is that there is an assumption that there were not very many consensual, loving mlm and wlw relationships in Roman History, which is homophobic in and of itself. There were sapphic writings that dictated some of how lesbianism is viewed today, and I highly doubt that all of the relationships/relations referred in the New Testament, within the church, were viewed in this way or were toxic in nature. It simply is not possible, because to assume they were all harmful would leave out the minority that were not, which would be discriminatory

 3.  I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying here—I’m speaking specifically to people who believe that to follow one rule, you have to follow them all, which is not correct. Jesus indeed does not mention homosexuality, whether or not He mentions sexual immorality as a whole is something I need to do more research in myself, I would love to see if you have any verses talking about this! /genuine

 4. I am so sorry that this came across that way, but I definitely DID NOT mean to imply that suffering is the result of a lack of faith. What i meant to say is that suffering can get worse when you follow God, but it is not His fault, and it is not always ours either—it is simply the way the world is, and God does not WANT us to suffer, but at the same time, our suffering is a symptom of the worlds brokenness. Does that make a bit more sense?

 5. see my first point for the first part of this! The second part is an incorrect assumption of my beliefs—both being gay and being straight ARE inherently sexual, but not in the way that that is all that they are. More that romantic love as a whole encompasses all of it. this second part here doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me as a contradiction to my point—i don’t believe that God intentionally makes someone with birth defects, or disabilities. They are a part of our fallen world in the same way that suffering is. For instance, I was born with shallow hip sockets and a genetic connective tissue disorder that causes me tons of pain and other bodily issues. I don’t think God WANTED me to have that and deliberately made me disabled, it just is something that is the way it is.

 6. Firstly, a lot of intersex people actually do not want to be included in the LGBTQ community, and find it offensive when they are used as a talking point, an argument, or as evidence of something else. Secondly, most intersex people are actually more one sex than the other, and all intersexuality is caused by genetic mutations (I must state very clearly here that i mean mutation in the scientific term, as in an issue with DNA development). A mutation is inherently a deviation from the norm, whether it becomes beneficial or not. Furthermore, truly ambiguous intersex people are very very rare. What is absolutely wrong, however, is mutilating intersex people at birth to force them into one side or the other. I would like to make it clear that I don’t think that’s ok. But I also don’t think it’s ok to use intersex people as a pawn to push an agenda, because a lot of the time, that is the only time I hear them being spoken about, and that’s not fair. I would like to see the sources you have for scientific study on this! I haven’t seen anything credible myself so it would be neat to see some sources (i swear im not being sarcastic, i would actually love to know this) I am terribly sorry if it was insulting, i will see if there is better language I can use in the future that isn’t offensive.

 8. you say you agree with the latter half of this, but not the first. would you say then, that your idea of identity is largely based upon who you love? this is not a biblical concept (that being said, if you have sources for this claim i would love to see them!)

 9. This one is a whole can of worms tbh, I don’t see any tangible proof that Jonathan and David were romantically involved, because the bible does not speak of their relationship in the same way that it does of David’s wives. I think to consider them as so is actually highly offensive because it is fetishizing their relationship and diminishing the Bible’s values of deep platonic friendships. 

 10. I would disagree in that loving someone can actually be harmful, if it is by the world’s definition of love. If you are in a committed relationship, for instance, engaging your desires with someone outside of that, even in a non sexual way, is still very much considered adultery. Even in secular terms, there is this concept called emotional infidelity, i think it’s called? Basically, it covers doing intimate things you would do with a romantic partner that are non sexual with someone who is not your partner. The reason why people get jealous when others do that sort of thing is because it is actually wrong, so the point of sex vs love is again moot because they come as a whole package when it comes to relationships, at least in the way that the Bible describes it  12. Someone pointed out the marriage point on another reblog, and I agree, I was wrong in that claim. Marriage is not a Christian concept. But if we are mentioning marriage from a Christian perspective, then these points still stand. You also make an error in stating that to become one flesh is the same as having children, because sex was not made solely to have children—even biblically! One look at Song of Solomon will tell you more than you want to know about that one LOL

 13. I’m curious as to what you mean when you say that my belief in objective truth is a misunderstanding of history/scripture

 14. I have to disagree with this one, because the Bible actually mentions unintentional sins—there were entire procedures and sacrifices for them in the Old Testament. Sin is anything that separates us from God, intentionally or unintentionally. Someone with Tourette’s however, or someone like myself with severe OCD, is not sinning by having intrusive thoughts, tics that swear, etc.. Those things are not separating them from God. Basically, to sort of explain what I mean by unintentional sin existing and still having an effect—if you hit someone by accident and didn’t mean to, you still have to apologize and do your best to make things right with the person. Another example is things that we don’t realize are sins but are—we don’t intend to do wrong things by doing them, but that doesn’t make them any less wrong. 

 15. Again, see my first point—the bible unites sexuality and romantic love. The idea of them being separate is actually not a biblical concept 

 16. I believe you may have misunderstood my point here, re. my earlier point about how supressing your feelings is wrong. I do not deny that denying yourself is incredibly, incredibly heartbreaking and hard, especially when someone is forcing you to. However, you make an incorrect assumption here implying that homosexual love is MOST of what lgbtq people feel and most of how they love others. For some it is, and for some it is not, and not everyone suffers massively from denying themselves, some find peace

 17. This is incorrect, because it implies that negative inherent traits are also positive gifts, which is a dangerous viewpoint to hold. Yes, I am a dancer, and dancing is true to myself. But also, I am very stubborn, and don’t like to ask for help from others. This has been an inherent trait of mine for years that I cannot get rid of. But it is not a gift, it is not a good thing, and it makes me suffer. To lean into that would be authentic, yes, but it would not be right  This second point is also very very dangerous. Nowhere does the Bible say to look inside yourself for your identity—in fact, it advises against such things. Christianity requires us to look to God and Jesus for our identity, because He is what defines it. We do not define ourselves, and that is a major thing that separates Christianity from other religions, because the focus is not on yourself—building your own identity, looking inside yourself to find it, deciding who you are, because God has already done that for us and for us to do that puts us in the place of God (besides the fact that trying to find yourself inside yourself is like diving into a massive black hole—it never ends, is never perfect, and you end up chasing after label after label, none of which fully encompass you).  As a Christian, trying to find who I am by studying myself is exhausting and pushes me away from God, because I am not exploring with Him, I am relying solely on myself, which is a sin

 I would also like to address this last part, because you make some pretty hefty accusations based on well…not a lot of information. I take offense at the idea that my theology comes from preserving the status quo, because personally, my faith and who God made me to be is entirely the opposite of that. My whole faith MISSION is opposite of that. For instance, I do not look like a Christian. I dress alt, am active in alt communities, and I love things that a lot of conservative Christians hate. I lean more liberal vs. conservative, and I majorly value individuality—I believe that God made people different, and it is important and VITAL that everyone, even Christians, expresses that in healthy ways. I am also disabled, both physically and mentally, and have struggled with my own sexuality and gender multiple times, which is why this topic is so important to me to figure out.  Secondly, you say that this is not a genuine attempt to understand God. Forgive me if I come across badly here—but you have to understand that in saying this, you are directly attacking and insulting my journey with God, AS a sibling in Christ. You assume by me making a post like this that I must have a shallow relationship because you personally do not find my statements to be sound, despite knowing nothing about my personal relationship/journey with God. You may view me however you like, but please do not insult, dismiss or invalidate His work in me without knowledge of it, because that is no longer a slight against me, but against Him, and that is the single thing I will absolutely not stand for in this conversation. 

 You cannot define someone’s desire for God or lack thereof, nor can you know their journey from one or two posts on the internet.

Does Christianity Condemn Homosexuality?

Yes, and here’s why (with counterarguments to common statements).

 This will be a bit of a harder read for some people, so please feel free to skip past if this is a topic that makes you uncomfortable. This is a post aimed at people who are already Christian, although secular peeps may benefit as well. My intention is only to educate, never to hurt–I believe two people with opposite opinions can coexist and accept each other for who they are without hostility. BIG FAT TW for: religion, me being blunt, meaty theology discussion, discussion of sin relating to sexual orientation.

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i had a trans(?) woman come into my workplace once a while back, and she was looking at the skirts. she said they looked like something a “bratty schoolgirl” would wear, and then proceeded to ask me if I was one. another instance was a much younger, more newly out trans woman who made no effort to pass whatsoever. she would hang around our store for HOURS, and then when we (politely) asked her to move on bc we had to focus on our jobs, she went and spread lies about being kicked out of our store rudely. i also know another trans woman, she was fairly nice, but always gave me bad vibes (not because she was trans, but because she would always hang around super close in my personal space and it made me very uncomfy. i also couldnt tell if she was trying to make a move on me or not) i dont mind sharing makeup tips, style tips, etc with people, because i’m all for gender nonconformity. but i have yet to meet a single trans woman that doesn’t make me uncomfortable--not because they are trans, it’s usually because of another personality trait that gives me a red flag, often something that reads as very stereotypically male. so there’s a dissonance in my head that makes me feel uneasy even if i don’t want to be I haven’t shared a womens bathroom or changeroom with any, but solely due to the power imbalance between male and female bodies and what they can do to me, i wouldn’t feel comfortable sharing those spaces with anyone who has male parts, regardless of their intentions

hi ladies! i’m being told that women feeling uncomfortable w trans women in our spaces “never happens”…and if y’all have specific instances i can add to my list to send to this person to open their eyes i would appreciate it sm 💕 thank you

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very well said!

literally the entire purpose of a safe space is to be exclusionary so that the group included can feel safe among others just like them.

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Where does the Bible condemn homosexuality

Hey there! Thanks for asking this, I actually didn't even add them in my homosexuality masterpost, so here they are for you and others who may be interested. :)

FIRSTLY, I want to state that discrimination against LGBTQ individuals is wrong and not something I support. Me listing these verses is in no way intended to be this. I firmly believe that I am not in this earth to control the behaviour of others, but rather, to love and accept them as Jesus would.

That being said, the Bible is very clear on Christianity (and God's) stance on homosexuality. The mistranslation claims I have debunked in the post just below this, and I have another post by someone else who has researched the original languages as well.

NOTE: the word "sexual immorality" means any sexual activity outside of a married man and woman

OLD TESTAMENT:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. Leviticus 20:13 ESV (this is an old Testament Jewish rule, so it is NOT right to put gay ppl to death, context is very important here)

NEW TESTAMENT:

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:26‭-‬28 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 ESV

Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 1 Corinthians 6:18

But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:2 ESV

Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, 1 Timothy 1:8‭-‬10 ESV

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. Hebrews 13:4 ESV

just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. Jude 1:7

I'm not sure from checking out your blog if you are Christian or not--if not, then treat this as information about a religion different than yours, as to you it will not be absolute truth :OOO

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Alrighty, sorry for the long response time, tumblr wasn't actually showing me your reply fsr so I thought you deleted it xDD

First off, I would like to say I worded the part about marriage incorrectly. If we're talking from an objective, conceptual point of view, marriage as we know it to be today as a practice existed before the organized religion we call Christianity, HOWEVER, we as Christians (and Jews as well if I'm not wrong) believe that the God of our religions invented marriage as a whole with Adam and Eve, as they were made to be created and to become one with each other. That's why it's existed for so long even in secular cultures--marriage is sacred and in God's design. However, that part is semantics really tbh

Secondly, the point about Greek/Roman sexuality is actually not really relevant to the conversation, for a few reasons:

A: Your point assumes that ALL homosexuality of that time was exploitative, which is logically not correct. People weren't really that different at their cores back then, and to assume there WASN'T what the world would consider pure-intentioned love between two consenting adults of the same gender doesn't account for much diversity and therefore doesn't really make sense.

B: Heterosexual love is mentioned in specific ways when Paul or someone else gives direction on what to do or not to do in the Bible. For instance, divorce, lust, the sin of sex outside of marriage, etc. So why isn't this specificity given to homosexuality besides a general "don't do this?". This is why I can't believe it's a mistranslation--it simply does not make sense with how the Bible addresses everything else.

C: Even if homosexuality was not mentioned generally in the Bible, that doesn't mean it's automatically right because of that lack of mention. You can't say that it's not wrong because certain verses only mention a specific part of that thing (I.e. The argument that it is referencing pedophiles). That's like saying pornography is ok bc the Bible doesn't mention it specifically and sexuality is mentioned in other specific ways.

D: As stated in my post, there are so many verses you can find about how to do heterosexual love right and wrong, whereas the only homosexuality mentioned in the Bible is painted in not just a negative light, but a VERY negative one. Generally, it's safe to assume then that it's wrong because of that, even if it's only referencing specific scenarios.

Below I've linked a couple sources that go more depth than I can about the Bible's ultimate accuracy--the dead sea scrolls are a good thing to look up as well if you want some solid proof from both secular and religious scholars on the Bible's inerrancy. I've also linked a post from a scholar that compares the controversial homosexuality verses in multiple versions of different languages--and finds the translation to say the same thing.

Biblical inerrancy:

https://www.thedestinlog.com/story/lifestyle/faith/2017/06/15/have-you-wondered-is-bible-historically-accurate/985681007/

https://www.icr.org/biblical-record/

Verse comparison (feel free to ignore the first part, it's the translation part towards the bottom I'm referencing)

https://www.tumblr.com/in-christalone/672499473636868096/funny-how-i-sent-in-an-anon-talking-about-how-the

One more post that debunks the sodom and gomorrah issue + others:

https://www.tumblr.com/in-christalone/619740991603212288/debunking-lgbt-christian-beliefs-with-biblical

Take this how you will of course--however, consider this. If you have to jump through so many loopholes to prove that something's not a sin, I would advise you to consider why you might be doing that, as the Bible is clear enough to guide us on most things of importance. The source of your morals shouldn't come just from the title of being a Christian, or from the ideals of Christianity, because even atheists, satanists, and people from other religions take their morality from there. It should come jointly from the Bible and from your close, personal relationship with God Himself.

Does Christianity Condemn Homosexuality?

Yes, and here’s why (with counterarguments to common statements).

 This will be a bit of a harder read for some people, so please feel free to skip past if this is a topic that makes you uncomfortable. This is a post aimed at people who are already Christian, although secular peeps may benefit as well. My intention is only to educate, never to hurt–I believe two people with opposite opinions can coexist and accept each other for who they are without hostility. BIG FAT TW for: religion, me being blunt, meaty theology discussion, discussion of sin relating to sexual orientation.

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Hey, so I appreciate your interest in my point of view and your desire for a conversation! I can definitely find my sources for the first and second claims, I just need a while to gather everything as I've been pretty busy irl.

That being said, before I do that, I have a few questions for you.

Firstly, you yourself recognized that I am solid in my viewpoint. I also recognize you are solid in yours. Hence, what is your reason for questioning me, since if both of us are solid, what's the point?

Secondly, as you are also making many claims, can I see your sources for them as well?

Thirdly, you mentioned you are planning to become a priest in your denomination. From where do you get your morality or decide what is right or wrong? If you are going to lead others it is very important to make sure that you have something solid for them to lean on.

Ofc, these questions are optional, however, they will help me know how to explain my viewpoint best to avoid any misunderstandings :) /gen

Does Christianity Condemn Homosexuality?

Yes, and here’s why (with counterarguments to common statements).

 This will be a bit of a harder read for some people, so please feel free to skip past if this is a topic that makes you uncomfortable. This is a post aimed at people who are already Christian, although secular peeps may benefit as well. My intention is only to educate, never to hurt–I believe two people with opposite opinions can coexist and accept each other for who they are without hostility. BIG FAT TW for: religion, me being blunt, meaty theology discussion, discussion of sin relating to sexual orientation.

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Besides the fact that not acting on your attractions doesn’t = heterosexual, it just means you’re abstaining from ANY romantic or sexual relationships, which to most LGBTQ ppl is really not that much different from aroace identities. So really, it shouldn’t be that much of an issue even from their point of view

A gay person only has to act like a straight person all their lives (no gay relationships, gay porn, not "acting" gay) and the gay person will go to heaven if they believe in Jesus?

A person who is submitted to the will of God will choose the things of God and will love Him more than sin. This isn't about needing to be a heterosexual to get to heaven, it's about if you have put your faith and trust in Jesus for your salvation.

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naur that’s just straight up racist for ppl to do. Like, that’s actually full on discrimination. There is no good reason to not date someone from a minority race JUST because they are that race, or you don’t like the way they look, or whatever. Preferences are valid, bc everyone has different attractions, but if you close your mind too much, especially when it comes to disabled people, different races, etc. then it’s not a preference, it’s your internalized abelism/racism

i really tried to understand the whole "oh yeah i don't really date people from x race, it's just a preference!" but yeah no i don't get it. it's so easy to find God-given beauty everywhere that i feel like if you can't do that for a whole group of people, you're either blind or haven't looked hard enough lol

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i think we should go back to stories like North & South and Pride & Prejudice where the main girl doesn't look at her love interest and thinks "i could change him" or "he'll be better once we're together" but instead waits for him to become a better man (while becoming a better woman herself) and then accepts him. i love seeing women have STANDARDS, even if it's fiction

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i love that line SO MUCH it is literally my favorite lyric in any christian song ive heard

When Half Alive said 'I am creation both haunted and holy' like yea man. I'm flesh and ugly and corrupted and wicked and full of darkness and yet made in God's image and His mercies are being made new every day and someday we will be made new too and Christ is in us and makes us redeemed in imperfect bodies and doesn't that make you go crazy?? Doesn't it???

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the idea of gender identity is nothing more than an aspect of another religion--it is something metaphysical that cannot in any way be proven to exist as an entity apart from the body. 

“God is no exotic gender theorist, separating anatomy from identity. As we shall see, the teaching of Scripture is that your body and your identity are bound, a whole, constituting person, namely, YOU.”

— Owen Strachan & Gavin Peacock The Grand Design, pg 14

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“your consent is a formality for his domestic abuse” WHAT A BANGER LINE WOW

"choke her with a sea view" literally gonna get women killed and i'm not kidding

the only kind of man who gets off to choking women is the same kind of man who doesn't care if you want it, your consent is a formality for his domestic abuse.

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my mom had me at 29, so there’s two extra years for ya! /j

on the one hand i have to stop acting like life's a competition but on the other hand my mom was pregnant with me at 27 so i got 4 years to find a husband and have a baby, let's do this ✊🏾