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Justification is Justice
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Your reasoning? I want to hear it. I want to hear it all. In this world, reasoning is everything. Such are the words of those who seek the truth. But in other words, this is where I answer questions in regards to the finer points of roleplaying. After all, if you're going to do something, do it right and justify it.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Because it's simpler just to take an already pre-existing background and morph it into something else that is, as you say, completely unrecognizable.
The sad thing is, is that some people don't even realize that they're doing this.
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(the mun changes the character to a point where they are all but unrecognizable to their canon counterpart. After a certain point, why not just make an OC?)
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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If only people weren't so deluded into thinking there is only one way.
There are many ways to develop a character, certainly.
Of course, therein lies the problem of justifying that development of that particular direction.
If you can't justify anything you say, what meaning is there behind words?
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Continuing from our conversation, Talking to you I can see what you're coming from. But really, I think the point I'm trying to get past here is that not all people roleplay the same way. To some the was people roleplay is great! Others don't like it so much. But you shouldn't criticize and say your way is the only RIGHT way and that the way we rp is HORRIBLE. Because in reality, it's not, if we were as horrible as you say, then pfft, we wouldn't have any followers!
I have a lot to say to you.
So much that I'm going to put it in a text post.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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In accordance to the previous ask, I present you this:
You roleplay for fun and shenanigans that contribute nothing towards character growth.
I roleplay because I want to see how a character will develop in the face of adversity, because stagnant writing is the worst kind-- it bores me to death, and likewise, nothing meaningful comes out of it.
That said, I appreciate writing slice of life. It gives characters a sense of normalcy beyond what's happening in their lives, and it gives readers the vibe, that the "main" problem is not the only concern in their lives. They're normal people too-- they fall in love, they get into trouble, they cause problems, solve problems, and have their personal issues.
Even slice of life events have meaning, but the way you write it seems hollow. I'm saying this because I have the audacity to talk about it and the way you write-- I've criticized you, you and probably your whole group is criticizing me, that's how it is. Even I understand that not everyone will have the same styles of roleplay, nor will they agree on what's the best. 
This is one of those instances.
And pardon me, did you really just pull that card?
If we were as horrible as you say, then pfft, we wouldn't have any followers!
--Because having a lot of followers totally means that you have a lot of skill.
It's almost like you're implying that quantity is better than quality. I don't care if I sound like an elitist roleplayer to you, because I have standards. I don't make the characters I play bend to my ideas of what's fun, what they should be, and whatnot.
Well, I do when I accept a magic anon, but even then I don't roleplay them like nonchalant busybodies who couldn't give less of a fuck of what they turn into. That's not right.
That just means that you really don't understand your character. All this time, you've been saying that you completely understand his feelings and stance on things, but so far, you've done nothing to prove that.
Understanding goes far beyond those things anyway. I can understand that you probably identify with your character's story, but can you empathize with them to the degree where the imagination envelopes the mind? Can you get into their heads, can you imagine the things that they do with complete lucidity? Can you get into their heads, can you comprehend and grasp the myriad of emotions that they feel as people, and not just as characters that you play?
Or are you making assumptions on how they would act based on your skewed view of your character?
Of course, it can be said that you're merely putting a different spin on them. But really, can you say that when you pour so much of yourself into them? There's nothing wrong with that, but there is a line where you should not cross. Your character's your character. You're still you. You are separate. Can you be the same personality-wise? Sure! But don't assume that what you choose your character to do is right-- that only proves the point of you bleeding into character.
For example, my feelings are my own. My characters have no idea I exist, but I care for them anyway, and I feel what they feel, even when I don't want to.
My feelings towards a person can be completely different from theirs, and that's okay. That's how it should be.
I personally, could care less on how many followers I have. I won't bend to their will to do something that'll make them happy. 
I don't care if I lose all my followers for stating my beliefs, either.
If they enjoy my roleplaying adventures as much as I do, hey, that's great! If they want to talk to me outside of roleplay, hey, that's awesome too! I love talking to people! I love debating too! But I understand what I am as a roleplayer, and I'm not afraid to defend my beliefs. Likewise, you aren't too.
The difference between you and I, is that you can't justify your actions as a roleplayer.
I'm saying what I'm saying because I believe this wholeheartedly. You can say I'm a serious killjoy that doesn't know how to roleplay to have fun with my characters with other people, but that's wrong.
Maybe it's the reason why I don't roleplay with a lot of people, but you know what? I prefer it this way.
I roleplay this way because there is no better way. Seeing my characters grow up and develop in a way that's unprecedented, unplanned through the interaction with others is the best kind in the world. Development doesn't even have to stem from a major problem-- either way, the most important thing to me, is that I want it to be real. I want it to feel real.
I want to look at something, and say, "Wow, it's like this could really happen."
Can you say that about your own roleplays wholeheartedly? Probably.
In the end, this is just an opinion. 
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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If having standards makes me elitist, I don’t wanna be casual.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Since you asked I decided to provide a guide as to how to properly genderbend/sexbend/63/whatever-you-prefer-to-call-it
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Now, lets take a character. Let’s say Dave!
First take your headcanon Dave and ready him for femming. 
Now you want to give him the bits. So remove the dick, slap on some boobs and those fiddly downstairs parts and bam! (Note: tutorial does not apply for headcanon trans characters.)
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There! You have a girl!
The second step is optional. You can maybe give them the hair style you want, maybe give them more feminine clothing, or leave them in exactly the same clothes they came in, it’s up to you!
The third step is to sit back and drink down some tasty apple juice because you’re done!
The fourth step is that there is no fourth step because you’re seriously fucking done.
If you’re changing anything beyond the social acceptability of wearing dresses for this character, then they are no longer the character you want. They are a new OC that look startlingly similar to the character you want. 
Dave is a “coolkid” not a cooldude. He has made himself up into this conglomeration of what he thinks is cool based mostly on his brother. Who’s to say that fem!Dave wouldn’t do the exact same?
The characters should not be acting all that much differently, because the changes are supposed to be superficial. Having or not having a vagina doesn’t define what you do. -Pollux
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Why I hate people who RP without emotion.
Roleplaying, as I see it, is more similar to the art of acting than the art of writing. It’s like a duet; one person says their line, shows their emotion, does a cheat for the audience (acting terms for like a stage accent or a turn), the next does the same, the motions move like clockwork, and everything’s fine. The great actors are the ones who make you wonder what’s the act?: the person or the character? And you walk away from a performance thinking, wow, they just might do it.
Those who put emotion into acting and roleplaying are the people I enjoy RPing with the most. When you start tearing up, sobbing, shaking in the night over a roleplay, because of the pure rejection your character feels, or the loss or death— that can’t be achieved through “John cries.” or what have you. That’s the difference between a voice shaking on stage, seeing the tears brimming at the edge of a character’s eyes, and “boohoo!” to me.
Pushing a character is beautiful. Pushing yourself on stage is beautiful.
You know what isn’t beautiful?
People who treat RPing like a chore.
If you can’t care to make a distinction between an action and a text post, if you can’t place your character, see the scene in your head, even if it’s just some loser character that ISN’T YOU typing into your laptop, if you can’t feel the flare of offense as someone spits on your character’s very name— I hold no respect for your roleplay, because it shows in your typing. If you can’t even dare to put proper grammar into an action post (and I am notoriously bad for short text posts so length doesn’t even matter!) then how can we tell if you’re actuallyfeelingwhat your character feels? Can you feel the deadness in a hollow character, the depression in a suicidal one, can you imagine what emotion brought your character to type his next word?
What keeps them moving?
Hint: It’s you.
There’s a little trick in acting called “substitution.” It’s where, in an intense scene, you replace the character’s feelings with your own. Sure, you’ve never been at the funeral of your long lost love (hopefully jfc if you have i am so sorry), but plenty of people have lost something dear to them before. Not everyone’s been through the boss fight of their life, but plenty of people have had to stand up for themselves before.
People who RP without emotion give us who RP with emotion nothing to react off of, and that’s why it makes me sad to see it. Every time you write a two word sentence as your whole post, it breaks my heart, okay? “John cries.” No. John is not crying. John is grinding sandpaper against his nads because that’s about as much emotion as a gum wrapper can put out.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Versions of characters that feel more like they’re based on shallow parodies, image-based stereotypes or other common misconceptions about the characters than on the canon material. As an example, there’s a certain very well known video game character who is openly flirty and outgoing, forward in her sexuality and not shy at all in the game, but is regularly portrayed as a childlike, innocent, chaste and perfectly pure shrinking violent in fanon, mostly because of her combat type and clothing.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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I’m not a sucker for love stories.
When I say I ship something, I don’t care about the happily ever after. I don’t care about romantic comedies or princess movies with a seamless love arc and a fairytale ending. That isn’t what I’m in it for.
I’m not a sucker for love stories. I’m a sucker for character stories.
I want to read a story in which the characters don’t fit perfectly. Where they complement each other when they’re happy but tear themselves apart in desperate situations. Where their relationship is healthy but not always, equal but not always, happy but not always.
I want to see characters suffer because that’s how I know they’re real.
I don’t ship to be happy. I ship to feel real. I ship because I love relationship dynamics, not relationships themselves. That’s why I don’t just have otps. I have brotps and dream teams and favorite family dynamics and favorite characters alone.
I ship because I like to see how a given character will respond to another given character in any given situation. I like to see how they mesh together, how their personalities match and mismatch, how they push and pull at each other and then come together or fall apart.
I don’t ship for the what of the situation. I ship for the how and the why. Don’t give me characters waywardly thrown together for the perfect puzzle-piece ending. Give me the two people who would seemingly never fit. Make it work. I don’t want fireworks or fairytales. I want realism. Passion and lack thereof. Heat and coldness and love and hate.
Don’t give me love. Give me character. Don’t just tell me. Convince me.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Explain then, how you think a romance in rp should be accurately written.
There is no way to accurately write a romance, but if I must make a comment on it, at least try to write your characters sensibly, and not like lovestruck fools.
Not all romance is sappy. There’s more to romance than just lovey-dovey interactions, after all. This post, courtesy of lastofthetimeladies, worded it better than I ever could.
I’m not a sucker for love stories.
When I say I ship something, I don’t care about the happily ever after. I don’t care about romantic comedies or princess movies with a seamless love arc and a fairytale ending. That isn’t what I’m in it for.
I’m not a sucker for love stories. I’m a sucker for character stories.
I want to read a story in which the characters don’t fit perfectly. Where they complement each other when they’re happy but tear themselves apart in desperate situations. Where their relationship is healthy but not always, equal but not always, happy but not always.
I want to see characters suffer because that’s how I know they’re real.
I don’t ship to be happy. I ship to feel real. I ship because I love relationship dynamics, not relationships themselves. That’s why I don’t just have otps. I have brotps and dream teams and favorite family dynamics and favorite characters alone.
I ship because I like to see how a given character will respond to another given character in any given situation. I like to see how they mesh together, how their personalities match and mismatch, how they push and pull at each other and then come together or fall apart.
I don’t ship for the what of the situation. I ship for the how and the why. Don’t give me characters waywardly thrown together for the perfect puzzle-piece ending. Give me the two people who would seemingly never fit. Make it work. I don’t want fireworks or fairytales. I want realism. Passion and lack thereof. Heat and coldness and love and hate.
Don’t give me love. Give me character. Don’t just tell me. Convince me.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Well, of course he would die if he was shot in the head by a gun, but let me tell you this, some of the things that happen can be very un realistic here because of this, Digimon are basically NOT realistic. The whole ANIME is not realistic, I mean in Savers/Data Squad, Masaru's father was REVIVED after he DIED by King Drasil. That isn't realistic and that is something that ACTUALLY happens in the anime, I would agree with you on how this isn't realistic, but really the anime isn't realistic too.
I like how you're using caps for emphasis. It's like what you're saying means something.
Of course it's fantastical and unrealistic to some extent. It's Digimon-- but then again, considering that Digimon are digital, artificial intelligence entities that are capable of evolving further and further, what else do you expect? Millenniummon can canonically access the multiverse and could easily rip a universe in half if he wanted to.
Besides, don't you know that the selling point of Digimon Savers was its hot-blooded shounen-esque style and total lack of proper physics?
But disregarding that, all character interaction remains realistic. I could care less on how unrealistic any series can get, as long as there's amazing character development and interaction. Isn't that the point of Roleplay to begin with? To have characters who would normally never get the chance to interact with each other, a chance to do so? Character interaction should always remain realistic.
... Unless you are Deadpool, and your character is somehow aware of the fourth wall. But your character is not Deadpool.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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ooc: i've seen what you've wrote about our roleplaying and let me ask you this. just because we are roleplaying canon characters does that mean we can only choose to pair them up with canon ships/pairings? no. no it does not. roleplaying let's you put the character in a noncanon scenario. and if you don't like how we portray our characters, which we are keeping in personality by the way, then stop following us. stop reading our roleplays. and go to some other group that fit's your standards, because that'd be the mature thing to do instead of nitpicking us. we don't have to explain anything to you.
Oh, trust me, if I could stop seeing your posts, I would. But I can't, so I'm going to deal with you like I do with anyone else. And you're going to have to learn how to deal with me. So deal with it. 
I don't follow any of you. I see you everywhere though, ever-present like a plague upon the land. I can't make you guys stop, just like how you can't stop me.
A scenario cannot be noncanon unless the laws of the universe are fucked with. You're merely putting them in a scenario, and having them act the way you think they should. However, just because you think they should act that way, doesn't mean you're correct. Your character is not you.
Just because you play characters, does it mean you have to play canon ships? Of course not! My point back then was that you didn't justify the correct interaction required to move into that stage of a relationship within such a short span of time! Nor did you justify why or how it happened!
In this form of constructive criticism I've been giving, none of you have actually attempted to rightfully justify what you do with your characters and why. All you've been saying so far is that your characters are perfectly canon, when they really aren't. And you've done nothing to prove wrong me otherwise.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Also, I don't always make Takuya happy. I actually make him go through many things, I wouldn't keep him happy all the time. Takuya isn't going to die so easily like that, and also, if I made him die what do I do after that? Just shut down the rp? The thing is roleplaying isn't supposed to be that exact, It's up to the mun on how the character is supposed to be played. Just like fanfictions, their made by the fan. Sorry if I don't think the same as you, but you're taking this a bit to seriously.
You never explained why he fell in love with her in that other ask that you sent me, unfortunately. Is it her smile? Or is it just because she's helpless and he wanted to be her knight in shining armor, like you implied?
But I digress.
Let me tell you something about people. They are fragile. Children and Teenagers especially. Even in roleplay, no one is immortal, and everyone can die. Everyone, whether we as roleplayers can help it or not. I don't think Takuya-- not as Agunimon or anyone else-- would be able to miraculously survive a bullet to the head. Of course, that's all hypothetical. 
No, it's not up to you to decide how a character can and will act during a situation. That's within their own judgment, and you, are merely acting out that role as they would-- you are not that character. Whether they do something stupid or not is not something you can decide.
Even when characters have the most amazing abilities, they are still realistic to the point of believability. Roleplaying is supposed to be that exact, because that's the point.
You're taking a character, putting them in a scenario, and having them act in accordance to how they would, if it were an actual thing. Fanfiction goes on that premise too-- at least, all the well-written fanfictions that actually write their characters properly. After all, don't you know? 90% of all fanfiction sucks because people don't know how to properly write the material that they're writing off of.
Besides, don't you know that most roleplayers actually justify what their characters do, and write reasoning so that others can understand why they did it?
Let me present you this scenario instead.
Takuya is in the Real World, without the Ancient Spirits of Fire and with Juri on a date, when all of a sudden, a convenience store they both happen to be in gets robbed. The Robber, who has a gun, shot the cashier and has taken Juri hostage. In this situation, what would Takuya do, despite being completely unarmed with no combat experience? I'll let you think about it in realistic terms, and see how well this ends.
Other than that, I take my writing very seriously. Why? Because you're playing characters from a franchise that I adore beyond all belief, and playing them in ridiculous ways with no hope of ever justifying why, other than that you're just doing it for fun. Understandably so-- but really, if you have the audacity to write your character a certain way, at least have the gumption to defend your way of roleplaying.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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How long have you been roleplaying?
Since 2007. I've seen all kinds of bullshit you wouldn't believe, and I've dealt with it all. 
In my experience, the rule of thumb behind all headcanon, actions, connections and reasoning itself is one thing-- justification.
And if you, as a roleplayer, can't even justify your character--- what they do, and the why behind it, what does that say?
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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And in the case of those who seem to be turned into a new character every other day? And the roleplayers who say "It's not my fault, it's the anons!"
Who's the one who accepted the anon in the first place?
The Roleplayer, not the character! The character would have no way of knowing what's going on beyond the fourth wall. The roleplayers themselves are a different story. It's they're choice to consciously accept anon. After all, no one's making them do so, right? How can you blame anon for sending you something, if you're the one who accepted it in the first place? 
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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So, how do you feel about people who continually accept genderbending magic anons or anons that change outright who the person is that's being played for a specific amount of time?
Well, those are for fun, aren't they? Nothing's wrong with that.
However, how would your character react to it? That's my point. Do people severely underestimate the reaction that goes with the transformation in question, or do they just go with it like it's the least of their concerns? 
It's neat to accept those sort of anons. I know I have, and I've enjoyed it.
My characters on the other hand? Hell no. They panicked, they freak out, they go, "WHY, WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?"
And of course, that's a normal reaction. Considering that an outside force has suddenly changed you into something completely different, how else could you react? Unless, you've been so hardened to the prospect that the character just frankly doesn't give a fuck anymore. Which is actually kind of sad.
As for the ones that change a character's personality entirely for an extended duration of time, well, it depends. Do they remember what they do? Do they lament it? Do they enjoy it? Either way, that's not for a roleplayer to decide. You have a role to play, and your bias can stay out of it.
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amuleaccount-blog · 13 years ago
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Takuya is the kind of guy who would feel a bit sour after not getting the girl. I can imagine the possibility of him being quite heartbroken, but he wouldn't let those feelings get in the way of his friendship with the two. That's what kind of guy he is. I can understand the prospect of wanting his friends to be safe, but in that situation, what would he want them to be safe from? Himself?
Juri on the other hand has her idiosyncrasies, but by no means is she a bad character. She's gone through a lot of emotional and mental trauma. It's hinted throughout the series of Tamers that she has an interest in Takato due to to helping him on various accounts. Not to mention, he saved her life, and in the drama CD of Tamers, she nearly confessed that she was hoping for Takato to ask her on a date. So with that in mind, how would she suddenly fall for Takuya? Just because he saved her? Moreover... 
Now, let me ask you this. Why would Takuya get the urge to protect Juri? "Just because"? How did he fall in love with her? Just because he saved her?
Let me tell you why.
Takuya is the kind of guy who would try to save anyone in front of him, because he has a hero complex. He wants others to see him as a hero. Of course, that changes throughout the series, but what doesn't change is that he still keeps that hero complex, but it becomes something a little more as he becomes a true leader, and feels the need to look out for others.
Things happen that make your characters sad. Well, of course things are going to happen. Roleplay isn't a bunch of sunshine and rainbows, shit hits the fan. Of course, from what I've seen of your roleplays in generally, nothing traumatic or mentally scarring on a realistic degree has ever occurred.
Now, I can understand that you feel sad when something bad happens to them. I do too, whenever events happen to my characters. For example, I was in a roleplay where my character was shot in the chest by a robber, and consequently died after feeling unbridled terror, sadness because she would never see her loved one again, and despair because she didn't want to die. Did I stop her from dying?
No.
I exist outside roleplay, and I couldn't help her. She and I are separate. I could feel every emotion she experienced, from the guilt of leaving behind her friends again, to the hope that they wouldn't be so sad after she was gone.
Can you imagine that kind of thing to a realistic degree? I've had another one of my characters go through an existential crisis, and another lose everything that he cared about. What have yours done? Get heartbroken?
What you're doing is you're pouring too much of yourself into the character in question. From what I can see, you always want them to be happy if you can help it because you're projecting yourself through them. 
You're ROLEPLAYING. You're playing their roles, not making them into other characters. 
If you're so finely tuned with Takuya, describe to me their feelings towards Juri completely. Likewise, can your Juri explain to me her feelings and what she fell in love with Takuya for?
Prove it.
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