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as much as I’m aware that if an animated short releases in 3.6 it will probably be for Evernight because Dan Heng does not need three of them, I would really like to have one focussing on the Express Crew as a whole instead of just one character
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in solidarity with @deltame13 (and because I am too out of it to make a post requiring more than 10% of my braincell) I am throwing myself on the chopping board
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apparently it is renheng week. what is that how do I join
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I made a comment on another post about this but I wanted to go into detail because the exact wording of how Evernight explains herself is super weird and maybe gives us some clues about what March 7th is.
"March 7th regained my memories."
If Evernight is simply March 7th's past self, wouldn't it make much more sense to say "March 7th regained her memories" or "I regained my memories"? But then the use use of "regained" means they are memories that March 7th had at some point.
So Evernight is not March 7th, but Evernight's memories are March 7th's memories.
Similar to how Cloudpiercer breaking and being reforged was probably a metaphor for Dan Heng's arc in Amphoreus, the camera's memory getting full most likely alludes to whatever happened to March. We also know that for March 7th, Trailblazing is the process of creating and accumulating memories. Plus there's the fact that the Garden Of Recollection wanted March 7th to enter Amphoreus and therefore might have wanted her to become Evernight.
So what if March 7th is some kind of vessel for memories? Dangerous memories, maybe, that regular memokeepers can't handle? And maybe her being frozen the first time was because these memories reached some kind of limit, just like a camera's memory being full? It could be that whoever she was in the past didn't have any memories of her own.
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found the Sisyphus nymph way back from 3.0...
"There's no one who can free me"
Even when the Trailblazer completes Deliverance, when Amphoreus is saved, Phainon is just going to push himself to an even more impossible goal, isn't he?
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The story setup for 3.6 is so loaded. Just from marketing and what we've seen in 3.5, there's this overarching theme of identity, change and their overlap- we see Evernight's inability to reconcile herself with March 7th, compared to Dan Heng slowly beginning to accept who he is given his new design. It basically asks, what makes up the Self? Is it simply an accumulation of memories, or something more? How much does a person have to change to become truly unrecognisable, if that's even possible? The fact that we're probably also getting insight into Remembrance and Permanence as mirrored paths like the Eruditon/Enigmata and Hunt/Abundance, and that these also tie back to that idea of identity, makes for a super interesting setup.
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feel free to call me completely fucking insane but I think out of the three Dan Heng forms, DHIL is the one that looks the least like Dan Feng, while his new form is the most similar. His body is the same, sure, but when it comes down to the things that are (presumably) his choice he seems to try to be as different as possible.
While it's a common notion that IL represents the things Dan Heng is not comfortable with, I think it's more that it encapsulates his defiance. As many people have pointed out, the way he dresses is not befitting of a High Elder, plus he wears a lot of gold, presumably representing power, while Dan Feng wears almost none (which also probably alludes to the fact that Dan Heng is much more powerful now by virtue of being free). In fact, his colour palette as a whole is much more saturated compared to the more white/grey palette used for Dan Feng. Additionally, he doesn't wear his bracer at all. Then there's the lotus motif, which is most commonly known to represent new beginnings, but also represents rising above the past and being untouched by it- again, defiance, even if it isn't healthy.
PT is a completely different story, though. In terms of his upper body, he has the same black inner layer + while outer layer with a coloured thing on his chest, the silver armour on his left shoulder which is a very similar shape to Dan Feng's, a mostly white left sleeve and has moved his bracer to his left hand (it's on his right hand in his 4* form but Dan Feng wore it on the left). There's a random belt hanging from his left hip and Dan Feng has something similar on the other side. He wears a belt rather that a sash and the coat tail things (idk what they're called sorry) are rectangular and mostly white where in his IL form they're more petal-shaped and blue. The swallow motif in his splash art as well as the fact that Georios is a god associated with agriculture both relate to spring which is a neat parallel to Dan Feng's maple leaf/autumn motif.
also big thanks to icy @danheng-sightings for putting all the Dan Feng art in one place that was very helpful :)
#stared for a long at at PT for this and he has been well and truly struck by Random Belt Syndrome#never change Hoyo#hsr#honkai star rail#hsr dan heng#dan feng
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If we somehow hypothetically brought Dan Feng back to the Express, would he survive the Himeko Coffee test?
unfortunately I think he would be too polite to refuse. Hopefully he doesn't die of caffeine overdose
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I fear the person I will become if Dan Feng shows up
I’m sorry for any unintelligible screams I may let out when 3.6 comes out.
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Chapter 6: in which Dan Heng’s secrets decide they don’t have time to wait for him to catch up
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love how in terms of canon-adjacent pet names we have "HKS"(affectionate) and "High Elder"(derogatory)
#Mydei making the insult a term of endearment vs Yingxing making the respectful address an insult#idk it just tickles my brain#hsr#honkai star rail#phaidei#renheng#hsr dan heng#hsr blade#hsr mydei#hsr phainon
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Isn't it so ironic that Mydei, who's supposed to be a simulated Pathstrider of the Hunt, is immortal? Why is his power the exact thing that Lan opposes?
I think it's once again proof that the Chrysos Heirs are human, and in this particular case proof that the Hunt is not natural to humanity. It's only under extraordinary circumstances that humans seek death, whether their own or the deaths of others. That's probably also why he ended up being a Destruction Pathstrider, because when humans do seek death, it's not for the sake of death, but rather in order to being about change. When humans follow the Hunt, unless they are well and truly devoted to their goal even more so than they are to their own life, it simply becomes Destruction.
Maybe, then, that's why the major Hunt faction is composed of long-life species: aside from those who have little value for their own lives, only beings with dwindling humanity can even find it within themselves to enact the Hunt. No wonder Phantylia has so much faith in the Xianzhou's self-destruction; the Hunt is by far the easiest Path to slip off of.
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prettiest Dan Heng sighting
hey . dan heng death sighting . get it . cause he's in the nether realm .
dan heng sightings - your submission has been accepted!
Free my dragon he did NOTHING wrong
Call me Dan Feng because i WILL be reviving him if he EVER dies at ANY point in time within the HSR storyline✌️✌️🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉
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out of fucking nowhere. sure
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As much as I love the trope in fics where a character loses control of their powers in a way that reveals their emotions (and if you write Dan Heng/Dan Feng like this, please continue to do so) I think that in canon it wouldn't happen for him. He has his Cloudhymn on the tightest possible leash, at first because he didn't believe in his own freedom of expression, and then after rebirth because as far as he can tell, the people who hurt him do so because they deem him dangerous. He probably didn't even consider it his own, just a power that he happened to be the vessel for. To that end, I wonder if Dan Heng maybe saw his power as something he wrongfully stole, even as he wished he didn't have it in the first place. It's interesting because media has many powerful characters who don't use it either because they struggle to control it or because they're scared of the damage they could do, and at first glance Dan Heng falls into the latter category, but upon closer inspection that isn't it at all: It's simply that using his Cloudhymn would cement it as his, something he definitely isn't ready to accept at the beginning of the story. So it makes all the difference seeing him not only using it, but for very mundane reasons in 2.7, and then using it for what he explicitly defines as Trailblazing in 3.3.
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I love that the guards are not remotely put-off by whatever species Dan Heng is but the moment they see someone vaguely resembling Lygus the response is "stay the fuck away from us". Also the way Dan Heng says "this one is not our enemy" absolutely implies that the other one is. Even when we barely knew anything about him we were all ready to kick his ass.
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Your post about Dan Heng's path and it's meaning is so so good, do you have a breakdown of other path and element (?) meanings, or any pointers towards someone else's analysis of these?
ok i will try. Some of these are pretty broad though because it seems to be a key message of the game that sentient beings can't be simplified down to just one ideology.
The Destruction: I love comparing it to matter/antimatter annihilation because that's what it is; a trade-off. Great sacrifice for great gain. Like how Nanook aims to destroy the Paths because THEY believe the Paths are chains on the universe.
The Preservation: I'm not 100% sure about this one but I think it comes down to endurance. Whether the character themself is enduring or whether they're trying to help something else endure seems to vary. For humans, this is usually related to protecting something, but I think that might not be the case for Qlipoth. THEY seem to just want to create something indestructible.
The Hunt: Characters on this path have a single-minded desire in pursuing their goal, often to their own or others' detriment (Though that's not always the case, like with March 7th or Sushang). In the case of Lan this obviously relates to THEIR relentless pursuit of Yaoshi.
The Abundance: This one is probably the simplest Path- the desire to prevent suffering. The game describes Yaoshi as a being that cannot bear to witness suffering, and Abundance Pathstriders seem pretty similar- it's just that sentient beings are capable of drawing lines where Aeons aren't.
The Erudition: Those who seek and/or take advantage of knowlege, especially human knowlege- things like strategy, desires and exploration, rather than just any kind of information. Nous is probably the most straightforward Aeon: THEY want to answer every possible question.
The Harmony: Penacony explained this really well, it's the mentality that the strong- whether that be through literal strength or influence- have an obligation to help the weak, and that the weak become strong when they band together. It's kind of unclear what Xipe's motive is or if THEY even have one, since as far as I know the only time THEY intervened in reality was to help destroy the Swarm- most likely THEY deemed humanity too weak to survive the Swarm and so stepped in to protect them.
The Nihility: While IX finds no meaning in anything at all, Nihility Pathstriders seem to be those who have no end goal- there's no ultimate meaning to their existence, but there's meaning to be found in simply continuing to do what they do.
The Remembrance: This one is really tentative, but I think it's characters who form connections. Like the Trailblazer connecting Amphoreus' past and present, Aglaea connecting the people of Okhema with the golden thread, Castorice guiding souls from the realm of the living to the Nether realm, Hyacine building the bridge between heroes and mundane people. Just like how memory connects all things, and how the Remembrance might be some kind of interface between Paths.
The elements I'm way less certain in general about, since we don't have in-lore references for what they could mean, so take these with a grain of salt.
Fire: An element which has really mixed symbolism in media, associated with both life and death. I have two ideas for this: It's either about survival- characters who did all they could to simply keep going, which could explain why this element is associated with the Preservation- or it's about cutting ties, burning something away in order to keep the rest safe. The first seems more fitting for the element, but Asta doesn't really fit so I think the second is more plausible.
Ice: Another one I'm not very sure about. I think it might represent characters who are trapped or "frozen" so to speak- Misha literally being a snapshot of Mikhail that can't grow up or embark on a journey of his own is a good example, or Jingliu being the only remaining member of the High Cloud Quintet while everyone else is trying to move on.
Wind: Just like the wind, these characters never stop moving. Whether they're running from or towards something varies from character to character, but either way they'll never let themselves rest, which can be both a help and a hindrance. Blade and Dan Heng are easily the best examples of this given how they parallel each other.
Lightning: Every lightning character is some sort of singularity. They're different from other characters in their "group"- a Self-Annihilator who finds meaning in all the minor details of life, an Arbiter General who's served in the position for centuries and tackles things through strategy rather than force, the only person who ever bothered to pay Asta back.
Physical: These characters are the most aware of reality. Even the ones who are ambitious know what is and isn't out of their reach- Robin, who understands that Penacony's dream can only be a temporary respite from pain in comparison to Sunday's ideal of paradise is a good example of this.
Quantum: Moving on the the two "abstract" paths, the quantum element seems to represent divergence; splitting the whole into parts. Tribios is the most literal instance of this, but there are also more figurative examples like Jade being able to see people as a collection of individual desires or Fu Xuan and Qingque both having associations with probability and making predictions through it. This can also be reflected in some characters worldview- they see the present as something that holds countless possibilities, like Cipher showing us that words are enough to change reality or Silver Wolf seeing it all as a game.
Imaginary: The opposite of quantum- instead of taking a whole and seeing the parts, imaginary characters see separate parts as the whole that they could become, or at least I think so based on the element's association with the Harmony. Sunday's dream of building a paradise reflects this well, as do characters like Aventurine, Mydei, Welt and Dan Heng who had to put their lives back together, so to speak, after they was broken apart.
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