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The lunatic of Ilium

I finally got around to making a proper version of this old sketch of Andromache sitting in the Greek camp, following the fall of Troy.

based on: the lunatic of etretat

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Yolk of Aphrodite, Helen

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what would your father think?

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Hannibal (2013-2015)

2x04 || 3x13

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Breakfast for dinner 😋🍴

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I feel like the need to make Patroclus a demigod stems from a lot of tsoa fans ( & haters ) needing a reason to make Patroclus and Achilles equal and they think making Patroclus a demigod will accomplish that.

But Patroclus and Achilles already are equals. They have strengths where the other has weaknesses. They may not be physically on the same level but that’s kind of the whole point. Achilles was always going to be stronger and a better fighter than everyone else. That was always going to happen. But when we look at the way Patroclus and Achilles interact in the Iliad it is clear that Achilles holds Patroclus to a high regard, continually mentioning how much Patroclus not only means to him but just how much respect Patroclus receives from everyone in general. They’re literally the Greatest of the Greeks and the Best of the Myrmidons because of how good they are. Theres no need to make Patroclus a demigod. It changes too much of his character and kind of mutes what made him so good. He spoke to Achilles as an equal when they argued. He wasn’t as strong as Achilles but he still went out with achilles armor. He wasn’t untouchable and god like but he was kind and genuine. He was an exile, with no birthright, no claim to anything, and yet the entire army mourned hen he died. Patroclus was so very utterly humane in both good and bad ways throughout the war. He was stubborn and bloodthirsty when he fought, riding some high from the war that many other soldiers probably got. He got cocky, and paid for it. But he was also a voice of reason. He didn’t want to see his men dying, not when they did not have to. He was a mortal man through and through, the good and the bad, until the end. I don’t see why you would want to take that away from him to add some meaningless power up.

And on the flip side, Achilles being a demigod is also integral to his story because he’s supposed to represent the divide between human and god. It’s such an important moment when Patroclus is killed because it’s as if Achilles’ mortal side had been killed with him, leaving only rage typically reserved for gods. Achilles during he beginning of the war is untouchable, but he is also respectful. He sacks the cities but he honors the fallen. He takes the war prizes but he calls out Agamemnon for not giving back chryseis even though men ( HIS men too ) are dying. When Achilles refuses the embassy he also essentially rejecting his mortality. He doesn’t WANT to fight in this war in which he will die for a man that dishonored him. And he’s technically not wrong to do so. But when he starts wishing for his comrades to die so that they will beg him to come back, appeasing his lost pride, he has begun to slip over into his divinity, embracing it shamelessly and disregarding the lives of others as long as he gets what he wants. As gods tend to do. And even if he doesn’t get that, he didn’t care about his comrades dying as long as he and his men could sail home. Achilles’ mortality slowly trickles out of him until it is violently lurched out and killed when Patroclus died. Patroclus who so badly wanted to keep their men from dying and needed Achilles to understand that by selfishly holding his pride to higher standard than the lives of others he was dooming them all. Their stories are such integral parts to each other and the main narrative I don’t see how you could change such a detail and still make their dynamic as interesting as it is.

Patroclus and Achilles both were good men. Patroclus and Achilles both were fighters that slaughtered others. Patroclus and Achilles both fall because of mortal flaws. Achilles bridges an impossible gap between man and god and Patroclus prevails when no one else will despite his mortality. That’s what makes them so interesting. That’s why their dynamic works the way that it does. Making Patroclus a demigod adds nothing of substance to his story it only takes away from it.

Anyways. This was not supposed to be that long. Apologies if I made any mistakes regarding the original text and pls correct me if I did!! But yeah anyways that’s my long explanation on why I hate the demigod Patroclus trope. It rly just. Doesn’t work.

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MY BOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY MY PRECIOUS BOY

1/3 neo-coms 4 @ \ sweetsummerjams ,

everyone say thank you so I could still draw everyone's favorite ginger while making money

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Don't know why I bother. You didn't come here for me.

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butterfly neo :D

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Odysseus @ Achilles

EDIT:

Ok, I’m seeing a lot of misunderstandings and people thinking this is my art. THIS IS NOT MY ART. I did mention this in the comments, but hindsight is 20/20. I wasn’t expecting this post to blow up so much, so I hadn’t put too much thought as to what it was going to put into the post. Anyways, here is the link to the art that this photo is from

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butterfly neo :D

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CHAPTER 4 PREDICTION HAHAHAHFH I really wanted to do this after reading @maruyaaya 's teleneo fic's new chapter READ IT AHAHFHAHKJAFL

I can't say anything rn, I'll just say THE FIRST PARAGRAPH KILLED ME IMMEDIATELY. HOW DO YOU DO THAT.

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CHAPTER 4 PREDICTION HAHAHAHFH I really wanted to do this after reading @maruyaaya 's teleneo fic's new chapter READ IT AHAHFHAHKJAFL

I can't say anything rn, I'll just say THE FIRST PARAGRAPH KILLED ME IMMEDIATELY. HOW DO YOU DO THAT.

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Trying to find the motivation to finish this

Rip Patroclus

Song is How Long? From Hadestown

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Idk I was thinking about the fall of Troy

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Athena’s Favorite

+ my design for when they’re older :)

(Edit: I forgot to add odys crown lol)

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"I meet my father after the war"

i forgot i never posted this on here haha..... i like the last generation of heroes, my pookies