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“Cumplane” is legit the ultimate ship name. First of all, it combines both of there names and makes a sex joke. Iconic. But second of all, it is a homophone to “complain” which is something they both do an awful a lot of.

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An insight on ivantill via tarot

Disclaimer: This is only done for fun and by no means do I claim it to be accurate. If it strikes a chord, then good. If not, feel free to ignore it. I only did it out of love for the characters.

On Ivan's feelings: The Lovers in reverse with Three of Swords as underlying theme.

Ivan knew his feelings for Till could never reach, that the only ending for them was separation. Faced with the choice of "either I die or he dies," he chose to die in hopes Till could go on.

Ivan loved so hard, he loved with his everything, he loved knowing the only way forward is doom. At the end of the day, all he wanted was for Till to survive, to be free — even if that means sacrificing himself. He was always ready to do whatever it takes to help Till win.

Till was his love, his everything; someone he was willing to give up his life for despite knowing the only things waiting for him were separation and heartbreak.

On Till's feelings: Ten of Wands.

Oppression, despair — Till was crushed by the weight of losing Ivan. He never wanted Ivan to sacrifice himself. On the contrary, he never wanted help. All he wanted was to fight it out fair and square because he wanted to prove himself.

With Mizi MIA and Ivan dead, Till further wanted to prove than he could make it "till the end." Even more, he wanted to prove that Ivan's sacrifice for him meant something. Just… How unfortunate it was that he couldn't make it in the end.

Still, despite the initial despair, Till felt like his effort didn't come to naught. Seeing Mizi again at the end of his "performance," Till felt like everything he did definitely meant something, will mean something. Even if he wasn't there to see it, at least Mizi will.

On ivantill's relationship: The Hermit (reversed), The Star (reversed), The Hanged Man (reversed).

Long story short; toxic doomed yaoi, lmao. Well, jokes aside, a relationship between them was never one that was meant to work. Their relationship is built upon broken dreams.

The ending that was waiting for them was never happiness, but despair and loss. VIVINOS was not kidding when she said that their relationship is a love-hate one, because it really is. The emotions brewing between them are too complicated and jumbled up that it became… dark.

Maybe, just maybe, with enough time and the right environment, things could turn out differently. Maybe, in another life, another universe, another reality, they could make it. Just… not this one. Not in the world where dog eats dog, it's either you die or I die.

But they loved each other. The love was there; it existed. They loved hard, clutching at shards of glass, hurting themselves and each other — because that was the only way they knew how to love. In a hopeless world, they only knew how to love recklessly.

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Some people say that there are no stupid questions, which is blatantly false. Of course there are stupid questions, and if you have one, you had better ask it, before you go and do make a stupider mistake. Stupid questions are more important than intelligent ones. I’m willing to bet more people die because of stupid mistakes than because of intelligent ones.

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The inherent comedy of detective conan is outsiders seeing this elementary kid running around in places children really shouldn't be and getting too curious for his own good meanwhile these bunch of high profile very capable adults are tagging along with him like they are his royal babysitter and he is the son of president or something.

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I cannot relate to people who dislike female characters for “being manipulative.” She’s literally creative problem solving before your eyes. She’s literally just using her words. Maybe the other blorbos should be less pawn-like for her beautiful hands hmm

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dash is dead im teleporting to the past

https://www.tumblr.com/dashboard?max_post_id=606474489540042752

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lowkey becoming a Till hater after this. I hte that guy (Regretted writing this 2 seconds later)

It was established earlier in the series that some of the cast do have parents, some know their parents or remember their face, some don't, I feel like it was important to us to know this fact about Till, because this comic answers more questions about him than I had thought, such as where his sense of humanity originates from entirely.

Starting the comic off with "Lo has always wondered ever since the creation was born whether or not providers also felt the same emotions that they were feeling towards the creation" shows more about the environment of Alien stage than I initially thought, Lo seems to love Till more than any "parental figure" I've seen in alien stage, its real, its affectionate, but Alien stage is so dystopian and detached from our society that Humans have no real solid attachment to morality, social code, etc. Aliens could never relate to humans either, so how can they enforce what they don't understand? This leaves Humans to figure it out on their own because no matter what, they'll still be human and feel inexplicable emotions. Love is one of these major emotions that get confused. and loving someone is normal, but I can imagine "Providers" can't afford to be as attached to their "Creations" as Lo was, they couldn't help forming a special bond with Till. But I love that it's immediately established that Lo loved Till as much as they could, and he wasn't brought into the world without care and familial love.

And it's also made clear that Till's passion for art and music was apparent from the jump.. even as a child, he composed his own song and sang it to his mother, he started showing skill and talent at a young age, he was as much of a prodigy as he's always been said to have been, but Lo's expression upon realizing that is so unmistakably afraid. Lo knew more than anyone in that situation how risky it would be letting Till go on because singing, they were more than familiar with the environment of Alien stage, the elaborate display of talent and entertainment on the big screens, the inauthentic excitement of the performers, Till was almost just like them, and Lo knew that Alien stage was where innocent children like him go to be chewed and spat out by Segyein until they had their fill and moved on to the next talent, Lo feared that fate all the same, humans like them didn't have the right to just sing when they want however loud they want, their voices didn't belong to them. Not anymore, but Till had made it into something of his own, he was too naive to know the truth.

They knew the risk, as a survivor, Lo knew what life, what horrors Till would be subjected to if this was ever found out by the aliens who would only use it to hurt and market him, to put him through a grueling cycle of pain until he too met his end on that stage. Lo's ear notch is a nod to their experience, and they were completely right. But as a mother, they didn't even want to take that innocence away from Till, not when his eyes sparked so brightly and pitifully.

In relationships like these in Alien stage, I always see that there is a choice to make between breaking making reality clear or reveling in obliviousness, it happens with Ivan and Sua, Sua and Mizi, Till and Mizi, etc etc. Something has to give and take.

Sua's sister is my favorite example of this kind of exchange, she told Sua bluntly that she would be doomed on that stage as she is now, that she was pitiful, if only to ensure her safety in some twisted, caring way, it effected Sua a lot as a child, living with such deep seated trauma caused Sua to develop an obsession with safety and security based on the fear her sister instilled in her so deeply, to find that warmth in Mizi, Sua was content living in delusion until she had to face it, continuing the cycle.

Lo made the decision to let Till remain oblivious, they, too, found comfort in such childish carefreeness. Like they had hope, they let Till keep singing despite their unease. They cared so deeply about Till enough to prioritize him being himself rather than making him suppress his spirit. The darkness that shadows over Lo's perspective in contrast to the light that makes Till's shines behind Till shows the difference between living in fear--delusion and living freely, oblivious.

The cruelty of their situation was overshadowed by love for a moment, Lo's one wish for their son-- that he would grow up knowing what it's like to love and be loved and chase after the feeling--if only in his heart he would remember how much they tried to show him that love and actively seek it after they're gone, or give it to someone else. They wanted to teach him to be himself through encouraging his love for music.

I don't believe they failed at all. Till was fully aware of how much he meant to his mother, it was so obvious. He loved making them proud, and making them smile and sing with him every time he tried to replicate those 'good cries', Till loved Lo back equally, and as he grew up he never stopped loving.

One thing about Lo's wish was that they hoped Till would never grow up alone. Till's separation from his mother must have had more of an impact on him than we could ever realize from his perspective, even if we never hear about it again, even if he's forgotten about it, suppressed it, it's a trauma that has deeply plagued his subconscious. He lives with that wariness for the rest of his life.

It was Till's fear that stemmed from the pain and regret of losing his mother that caused him to avoid attachments, emotionally suppressing himself, and he keeps his heart behind restrictive chains because he can never let that vulnerability be used against him again, it explains a lot about his relationship with his friends, how he percieves his own relationship with them after going so long not addressing his feelings. He craves connections but fear, and being in the middle of confusion makes him freeze in place and run back to old habits. Jumping to feelings he can easily rationalize, hatred, anger--or avoiding conflict all together.

Even after Lo and Till were separated, Till did not grow up without love, or without the feeling of loving, even though he was alone in his own self-made bubble distanced from his peers, there is a difference between isolation and loneliness, in his case, he remained distant even with his closest friends, or the girl he loved more than anything, as a way to protect himself. But he was never left alone with 4nakt beside him.

When Till can only realize he's loved when he can recognize it and see it for himself, thats what makes the comic being focused on the whole group rather than just Mizi or Ivan interesting, and telling about his character. It drives home the fact that Till was also a little kid who craved connection just like the others, he expects to be left to himself, and his friends seek him out naturally. He valued and loved all of his friends. rather than a specific person like Sua focuses on Mizi and Ivan focuses on Till this shows that everyone who stayed with Till had an importance to him

(Even Sua looks somewhat fond...)

Till grew up knowing what it was like to be cared about and loved it, sought it out, and inherited that touch from his caretaker, What Till gained from his relationship with his mother shows in the way he treats Mizi, Ivan, even Sua. Mizi's kindness and care were a familiarity, something that instantly attracted him to her, it likely reminded him of his mother in a way and he subtly sought out her attention for that very feeling of love and feeling cared for.

With Ivan, he couldn't help caring about him in little ways, it was only natural, if only because it was part of Till's nature to nurture, letting Ivan be himself around him as a parallel to the way his mother encouraged him to be loud about his interests. And Sua, even if they weren't close at all, Sua was an acquaintance to him, hell even the way he treats a little broken flower with just as much compassion shows us how much Lo impacted Till's growth

To the Segyein, Humans are nothing more than a product, to those who disobey, they are punished, to those who comply, living to sing on stage and feed the aliens is their "prize" for living through it all. Their separation was something Lo saw as a their punishment for having their own little rebellion in making music for themselves, loving it, making it into something the aliens couldn't use against them, it was their own little fun, and they could do it freely. It was an inevitable consequence that they could have prevented as Till's caretaker

In the end, Lo probably never lived to see her son grow up, but they prayed for Till's pursuit of happiness. The traces of them, the evidence of their care that they tried to deeply thread into Till's person stayed with him forever, exactly what kind of trace Lo had left on him...they taught him how to love and be loved, they let him love art, they showed him what living freely with no restraints was like, that's the kind of life he fights for even after he's trapped in this system. her impact keeps him kind-hearted and fighting. It keeps him human despite all of the pain he was burdened with as he grows up

And even when his art is his pain, the creation of art and music reminds him of why he lives, what he lives for, it gives him a vague sense of hope even if for a moment, it brings him that same joy he had when he was a child

"Exactly what kind of trace"

The traces you leave behind is what's important to a human, every human is born to die, what matters most is how you live your life, what impact and memory you leave behind, I love Lo's character, even if we have little context around her background, because she knew that fact and wanted nothing more than to leave a meaningful impact on Till, if they were to one day die they wanted to leave him with a trace of them, a message he would never let go of. and that sentiment became deeply intertwined in his being. Till's emotions, his love, makes him the character he is.

The title of the comic expresses this too. "evidence" or "traces"--this comic is evidence of Lo's impact, evidence that Till was loved and knew how to love in return, Till had relationships. His entire existence was the product of love, it's evidence that he was alive and had humanity, that's what makes this comic even more tragic. It's evidence that he was human at all when we can forget that in the midst of the chaos of all of their lives. Innocence where the aliens don't bother to acknowledge. Till isn't a weapon, or a product. And this perspective of him through his mother's eyes reflects that.

The humanity that he holds within himself even after losing family connects him to more people who prove to care for him as deeply as he cares for them. Till was lonely but never alone with the love he had around him, they always come back, the relationships around him that his mother wished he would have so that he would never sink into a lonely abyss, only a boy and his song, and on that wall is a drawing that draws a picture of a life he's always wanted, a real heavenly garden with real trees and a real sky, and the drawing includes the four of them together, because he had always envisioned a life worth living, free, with all of his friends by his side.

The translation is done by @/WhatfaFruit

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The way that Ivan was the kind of love that Io prayed for their son to have. The way he loved freely and without bounds and gave an unconditional love to Till, no matter what happened he would always love Till and be by his side. Io's prayers were answered.

In a way Ivan was like a guardian angel. No matter what, there would always be someone there to make sure Till was loved.

If there was any purpose to Ivan's guardianship it would be, "Never forget that you are adored."

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THE HOLY TRINITY OF IVAN INFRONT OF YOUR EYES

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"tragedies: the love was there"

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Ivan was the only one of 4nakt who never knew love. He was not raised with love. He was a product surrounded by love, a gift for a wife, able to see Mizi and Sua's love as nothing but pure. He truly, truly believes he was never loved. But he does not think he desires Till to reciprocate his love for him. He wants to see Till free. He wants to see Till survive. He exists, believing his love for Till was never anything but his own selfish feelings, feelings he believed were so deep and impure. His early childhood and relationships with aliens was one with only apathy and detachment. Love was not a concept in these. How could he ever feel love in a world like that?

But Till loved. Till was a person of love. He loved loud, he loved quiet. He loved traditionally and non-traditionally.

Till loved him. Till loves him. Even if Ivan never knew. Even if he never felt it. Till was surrounded by love and loved back even harder. Whether or not it was the same love isn't really relevant. Because Till loved Ivan. He let Ivan into his space when he let no one else. He stayed with Ivan. He let Ivan tease him. He was by Ivan's side until the end. And so, so much more. He loved Ivan.

Ivan was loved. He may have come from a place without it, may have thought he only knew of concepts of it, may have believed his love was a corrupt thing, if he ever understood that he felt love, but he was loved in return.

And he never knew he was loved, not even once he died. He died, in an act of love for Till, giving his life up so his love could survive. Ivan was surrounded by love until the day he died. He was loved as strongly as he loved. And he never knew. He died in belief that he was unlovable. He never knew he could expect love back. He never knew that a reciprocated love could exist. He believed his love was something he was alone in. He lived his life for his love of Till and died it as well.

And he never knew that he was loved too.

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Actually devastated by the central theme of the Io and Till comic.

Io loved him and yet she knew she couldn’t protect him. She couldn’t keep him. In this world, she doesn’t have the luxury of keeping something as precious and fleeting as Till. He’s a tool and she is his maker. She brought him into a world where she fears he will only suffer. And Till has suffered. Till has suffered so much.

But Io wanted him to be loved. Prayed that someone could ever possibly love her baby as much as she did because she knew one day she couldn’t offer him love anymore. All a mother can hope for is that someone will love you like you deserve when I’m gone.

And someone did.

Someone loved Till. Someone protected him. Someone’s entire life was driven by love for her baby.

Someone on Twitter pointed out that Ivan’s name means “gift of God.”

Ivan was Io’s gift from whatever being she desperately prayed to.

Ivan didn’t think he mattered to anyone, but look.

He was everything Io ever hoped and begged the universe for for her child.

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Obsessed with Lizel who’s trying to be equal to Gil but doesn’t know how to do that.  Because he’s never been equals with someone before.  It’s always above or below.  Especially above.  Even with His Majesty, it’s a weird combination of He’s The King and the one Lizel is devoted to, but also Lizel half raised him since he was a child, he was the one who educated His Majesty.

To those closest to him, Lizel is mostly like that, an educator.  He knows how to spoil younger people in a way that encourages their growth, which is what he does to Judge, Studd, and Eleven, and even Ain a little bit.  Other people he connects with but are less close, Lizel knows how to perfectly follow the rules where he isn’t actually an aristocrat but he can trade in power and information and clever plans.

For all of these people, Lizel can basically read their hearts.  A step above the typical aristocratic way of never showing emotion but being able to read the emotions of others even when they’re hiding it–what do they really want.

But he struggles to do that with Gil.  Lizel outright messes up trying to do things for Gil.  Lizel who calmly understands everything, has done some absolutely insane things, who could easily take over, destroy, or uplift entire countries, doesn’t understand what Gil wants.  He doesn’t know what to give him.

But he does know that he wants to give Gil more than he gives everyone else.

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maybe your fanfic doesn’t have to change someone’s life maybe it can just brighten someone’s day for a bit

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haikaveh dump ^^