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I need someone to sit down and make a real argument for why they ship giles/buffy. I am curious and open. I did a s3 rewatch trying to understand and failed. what's going on sell them to me

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omfg I got reminded of darla's ending in ats. guys I don't even fucking like darla but oh my god. they were HORRIBLE to her. why was cordelia the ONLY PERSON who sort of sometimes treated her like, y'know, a person? and not JUST the baby carrier? I swear to god. I was admittedly a little more than half asleep but I remember opening my eyes at apparently the worst fucking time cause darla just was dusted, and then all that was left was the baby. and it horrified me. cause she really WAS just the baby carrier. and she was discarded the second... however connor happened idek I wasn't awake. quite frankly while both btvs and ats have made me horrified nothing has sunk into my bones and shaken me the way that plotline did

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(stumbling out of the document covered in blood) ok i wrote 100 words

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had an idea of my lovelies. sorry it's so poorly drawn but if I tried any harder I wouldn't have drawn it at all

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Fred being gone forever is so fucking awful. Like it’s bad enough how slow and painful her death was, but her soul? Her soul is gone and there’s literally nothing left of her? No afterlife? She just doesn’t exist? Forever? That’s so fucking foul. Fred deserves so much better.

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Anya Jenkins is like. What if there was something fundamentally different about me and I will never be fully accepted because of it. I like who I am but everyone wants me to change to be more acceptable to them. I throw myself into being the perfect woman and girlfriend and human but I'm not willing to be ashamed of who I am so nothing I do is ever good enough. I get betrayed by the person I love most so all I know to do is return to who I used to be but it doesn't fit me anymore. I can't be who I used to be, but I also can't be who I tried to be. I'm stuck between worlds. I'm also the funniest bitch in the friend group.

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Love the idea that Tara was almost out of the horror movie, but she turned around! Because she loved Willow! And it made me think that like the requirement for being a scooby TM is to be unable to leave and unable to let go. like Buffy willow and xander are obv the epitome of this bc they're codependent as hell and don't know what's good for them.

But this is also why tara and anya are absolutely 100% scoobies. Because tara refuses to let go of willow. for as shy and meek tara appears to be, she is willing to run right back into the horror move to get what she wants (willow). And even when she's broken up w willow she stays for buffy, bc scoobies cling to each other even when they shouldn't.

Anya is similar! A man leaves her at the altar and she tries her best to leave and become a vengeance demon, but she can't keep it up! Because at her core she's been changed by these dumbasses, and she comes limping back into the fray because she, like the rest of them, will cling onto the corpse of her relationship with xander for no good reason. And she stays, and fights, like tara, until it kills her.

This is also why Giles passes the scooby test right up until season six. Man chooses surrogate daughter over the love of his life bc said daughter was sad. Girlfriend dies and he spends the rest of the series with no other adult friends. Definition of being unable to let things go.

For that matter, it makes Jenny the perfect Scooby. She also couldn’t just cut her losses. Instead she had to cling to her relationship w these ppl and do desperately stupid things (like hanging out in a public building after dark) to get back their favour. And it kills her! Because a good Scooby will always turn around!

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I wonder if spike could've been the one to jump instead of buffy. like if he'd taken enough from both buffy and dawn as to not dangerously drain either of them, and then jumped... well, it'd be their blood, wouldn't it? and maybe the death was needed too, but idk what killed buffy. whether it was the landing or the portal itself. but you could reasonably assume the portal could dust him I think. no bringing him back and definitely not his time to die anyway, but it's an idea I like to turn over in my brain sometimes

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was suddenly struck with a vision. doberman spike clipping his ears around the same time he started bleaching his hair

tired of angelus and darla making fun of him for his floppy puppy ears, when he was redesigning himself he chopped his ears and docked his tail for good measure as well. painful as all get out, but dru loved the new look immediately, her bad dog, so he knew it was worth it. the only time he even slightly misses the way he looked is when any of his girls lament not being able to play with his ears anymore

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I think that the Thing that gets people about btvs when they talk about 'bad' characters and forgiving characters for their evil misdeeds is that the show is fundamentally about being a human... in completely unhuman conditions. Like especially when we talk about Spike and spuffy, there's always people asking 'but how can you excuse ___' and the thing is, its not about excusing certain behaviors, but rather giving them context that wouldn't exist in our world. Like spuffy s6 is super toxic- they hit each other, use each other, generally are abusive, and while that behavior is not excusable or forgivable, the context is that we have two characters who are literally mortal enemies trying to sort out complex human feelings for each other.

Its about taking flawed humans and putting them in fucked up situations AND THEN also taking away their soul, giving them a soul, giving them superhuman strength, giving them trauma that a human in the real world could never ever have because the supernatural conditions that perfectly aligned to fuck them over simply don't exist in reality. And in doing all of this, the show stretches the limits of the human condition, asks what ifs that we can't pretend to know the real answers to. Thats whats so great about the show, but also kinda hard to wrap your mind around, especially as a first time viewer

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guys wtf is going have I gone back in time to 2016 or smth my homepage looks like it's in the wrong era

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scott mccall knows that being kindhearted is punk rock :)

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!! ur entirely right. I remembered all of these too but somehow just... didn't. factor them in. lol

I honestly don't know where I got it in my head that xander's a gossip bug but in my heart. in my heart. he's the worst of them all

willow can't keep a secret, but xander? just don't fucking tell him anything bc when you turn around every single person you know will also know now. he doesn't even mean to be bad about it he just can't help himself. him and buffy loveeee chatting shit, specifically in high school. cordy is his and willow's favourite subject, but almost every day (that they're not fighting off the motw ofc) xander will come up to buffy with something interesting he overheard and that'll be the thing they go over until something new catches their attention. anya doesn't really get why he'll bring back stories of people they do not know or care about, but eventually she starts doing it herself for him, and it becomes a fun way to pass the time when nothing else is going on. him and dawn are absolutely awful. she'll come home complaining about so-and-so or whatever and he'll immediately hone in and jump into the conversation. tara and spike are more "not my business" people, but they'll listen and (tentatively, in tara's case, or with a scoff in spike's) trade some strange thing they'd overheard as well to give xander some more to chew on

this may be my most mundane and oddest hc I think if it's not backed up by anything in the show lol

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y'know how sometimes when people come back, and they don't fit anymore where they used to? they were gone, and now that they're trying to take up space again, everyone's sort of resentful that they're messing up the routine. but buffy didn't even get that. of the three people who actually mourned her, one left entirely, and two would never begrudging buffy for taking up space anyway because the space she left was so big it wasn't ever going to be filled again by anything less than her. there was no new routine to mess up, nothing that wouldn't have been welcome. and then nobody else really learned to keep living because they all had a plan to bring her back, so it didn't matter the space she left because they were going to fill it again no matter what. buffy's death changed very little and her coming back changed even less. and something about all of this makes me very sad

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y'know it should be considered a talent with how goddamn good I am at getting lost. I'm using a map. I'm using gps. how the FUCK did I end up HERE? WHERE AM I

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every time I see people say btvs should've ended at s5... you like death is your gift as buffy quite literally chooses to die to get out of her situation, rather than buffy smiling as she realizes she's free as the better ending? the last season telling you that the way out is death that her only freedom was her death, rather than the last season telling you there's hope there's an after there's more and you just have to try to keep going. idk what the hell the message of s5 is exactly but it's very bleak to me compared to what s7 has tried to show me