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Him: you better not be a man of constant sorrow when I get home

My stupid ass:

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SHINee & Kany 🫶

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I really feel like SHINee is making a business decision for continued longevity. And while there are plenty of debates to be had about the nctification of SHINee or appropriation of black music and culture in kpop, especially when it comes to title tracks, the b-sides we've heard still feel authentically SHINee to me. You can feel their personality in those b-sides. I would also say SHINee is very good at making things better than they objectively sound on paper. I think one reason this is rubbing people the wrong way us because they ferl it strays too far from SHINee sound, but they've always said they are a contempoeary band and this is contemporary. They will put their SHINee twists on it, and even though it may not be everyone's favorite SHINee will still make it their own.

I think SHINee's model post-enlistment, in a very different musical landscape from where they've started, is focused on hooking new fans with title tracks and then keeping them with b-sides.

yes anon, i totally agree!

you've put it perfectly.

i admit, in regards to dcm, and more so with hard, this new approach can be quite jarring to an older fan, but, i understand their approach and goal.

i think some fans kinda see it as then selling out? or conforming to 4th gen in some way

but they are, and have always stated, that they're a contemporary band, and that involves adapting to the new styles and sounds. the key to longevity is being able to keep up with changing ideas and opinions.

and same. to me, their album is so full of shinee. it showcases all the elements they're good at, and genres and styles they thrive in. the members individual colours are also so present and i think the album is really cohesive.

starting off with those very new styles as something fresh, and a bit controversial in terms of what we're used to from them, but then hitting those dance heavy, retro and electronic genres that shinee are sooo sooo good at, and then slowly sliding to really good classic vocal heavy tracks.

shinee said they will NOT fall into that rut that so many groups do post-enlistment.

and it's worked amazingly.

they've reached an all-time career high in terms of sales, and got the most itunes number ones in their company for the year so far, being praised by for their talnet, and are hooking new fans EVERY DAY, and that's in their 15th year.

like, as divisive as this comeback is, credit where credits due y'know? their talent is getting well-deserved recognition and ultimately they're happy with their creative decisions.

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minho covering jonghyun’s part in view. SHINEE WORLD VI ‘Perfect Illumination’

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230626 ‘Identity’ & ‘Gravity’ lyricist is a shawol since debut and a blinger 💖 (© translation: taeminpinoynoir)

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man i can't believe i took so many hours of the workday just to say "kinda seems like they're having a bit of a laff innit"

Just some disconnected, inchoate and probably defensive thoughts on "HARD," the reaction to "HARD," and where it fits within SHINee's discography (written in bullet-point format, since I'm supposed to be working):

I'm not here to discipline anyone into liking the song; it's perfectly legitimate to feel disappointed by an artist embracing a sound you don't personally enjoy.

Having said that, I also tend to roll my eyes at knee-jerk dismissals of "fourth gen" music. Pop music changes, or else it stagnates. If I'm weighing a piece of music as a critic, and not just as an individual with strongly held generic and aesthetic preferences (which, again, require no defense), I can't begin and end by totaling up the number of chanted choruses and anti-drops—I mean, I can, it would just make me a very conservative and not particularly illuminating critic.

Other than excellent production, what stands out to me about "HARD" in opposition to any number of more po-faced recent boy group releases (cf. Kayla Beardslee on how too many boy groups right now "are obsessed with coming off as really cool") is how much fun the members are having in playing around with goofy fourth gen motifs. There's nothing ironic or parodic about it—they are, as a friend said, sincerely committed to the bit, but also clearly relishing in the ridiculousness of it all. I mean, consider the dick jokes.

Is "HARD" a good song? I think so. Is it a good SHINee song?Putting aside the question of whether "HARD" feels sonically distinct from other recent boy group releases (or how much), the underlying playfulness of it feels distinctly SHINee. In that sense, it reminds me of "LUCIFER," which also embraced a more hard-edged sound/aesthetic already popular in K-Pop at the time, but which still feels/felt distinctly SHINee in its flamboyance (see Occupied Territories' brilliant write-up).

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Just some disconnected, inchoate and probably defensive thoughts on "HARD," the reaction to "HARD," and where it fits within SHINee's discography (written in bullet-point format, since I'm supposed to be working):

I'm not here to discipline anyone into liking the song; it's perfectly legitimate to feel disappointed by an artist embracing a sound you don't personally enjoy.

Having said that, I also tend to roll my eyes at knee-jerk dismissals of "fourth gen" music. Pop music changes, or else it stagnates. If I'm weighing a piece of music as a critic, and not just as an individual with strongly held generic and aesthetic preferences (which, again, require no defense), I can't begin and end by totaling up the number of chanted choruses and anti-drops—I mean, I can, it would just make me a very conservative and not particularly illuminating critic.

Other than excellent production, what stands out to me about "HARD" in opposition to any number of more po-faced recent boy group releases (cf. Kayla Beardslee on how too many boy groups right now "are obsessed with coming off as really cool") is how much fun the members are having in playing around with goofy fourth gen motifs. There's nothing ironic or parodic about it—they are, as a friend said, sincerely committed to the bit, but also clearly relishing in the ridiculousness of it all. I mean, consider the dick jokes.

Is "HARD" a good song? I think so. Is it a good SHINee song?Putting aside the question of whether "HARD" feels sonically distinct from other recent boy group releases (or how much), the underlying playfulness of it feels distinctly SHINee. In that sense, it reminds me of "LUCIFER," which also embraced a more hard-edged sound/aesthetic already popular in K-Pop at the time, but which still feels/felt distinctly SHINee in its flamboyance (see Occupied Territories' brilliant write-up).

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if i ever write something set in the united states im just going to do zero research whatsoever and make stuff up to sound cool it’s equality

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230623 SHINee WORLD VI [PERFECT ILLUMINATION] D-1 : Minho ❤️

Are you ready for .....Minho's jump 💪🏼

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SHINEE WORLD VI — PERFECT ILLUMINATION DAY I

BODY RHYTHM

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230623 choiminho_1209: 🌊🫶.

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