queer analysis - 23 - byler canon
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God the 11 year old girls you put on this earth to climb trees and play with plastic animals are buying foundation at the drug store
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It’s with great pain that I must announce you were devoured by clowns.
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ROSS DUFFER SAYING SORCERER IS AS BIG AS ANY FINALE OHHHH WILL STANS ARE EATING WELL THIS SEASON

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It's time to break the siege on Gaza, we are waiting for you, time is running out, Please help us
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here are some friendly reminders incase you had byler doubt
the duffers are not bad writers
the duffers have never written an unrequited love trope that spanned past one season
the blocking of the final shot of s4
the duffers didn't need to make will in love with mike to write an effective arc about his sexuality
mike and el's relationship is at a standstill
mike needs to be needed, and will always will need mike
el needs/wants independence, which clashes with my previous point
mike and will spend most of their time with each other this season
noah said something 'finally goes right' for will this season
finn said that mike's cluelessness in the van scene will 'pay off'
it took 12 hours to film the van scene (a 3 minute scene), meanwhile the duffers told finn to add whatever he wanted to mike's monologue, and the majority of it was improvised
the duffers could very easily come out and deny any possibility of byler happening, but they won't
whenever the cast is asked about mike and wills relationship in season 5, they stumble around the question, claiming they are trying to avoid spoilers
noah is a gay man, and therefore, likely understands how much queerbaiting sucks, and would most likely not participate in queerbating
homophobic comments about will in season 1 were always directed towards to mike
el did not understand what a romantic relationship was in the 1st season when mike kissed her, and therefore, the relationship is not stable or healthy
during mike and will's fight in rink o mania, the song playing in the background is quite literally called in the closet
the duffers are extremely detailed, and it is extremely unlikely that any tiny details pointed out as 'byler proof' are just coincidences
the outfit that mike shows up in at the airport is said to be 'a shitty knockoff' basically calling cali mike a shitty knockoff of the real mike (ty argyle)
the objective romantic tension of mike and will's scenes. ex: crazy together, i didn't say it/you didn't have to, 'we will' in s4 epilogue
mike constantly looking at wills lips (which is definitely intentional, unless finn has a crush on noah, lmao)
mike being able to hug dustin perfectly normal during eddies campaign in 4x01, but suddenly becoming awkward about hugging will the literal next day
mike straight up lied in his monologue when he told el that he loved her from the moment he saw her. in reality, mike wanted to send her to penhurst (a literal mental institution), and was truly only concerned about finding will
when will went missing, mike immediately went out looking for him, and continued looking for him after receiving proof he wasn't dead. yet, after literally seeing el after she had supposedly 'died' all he did was try and call her for like 3 minutes every night
mike's character is generally considered to be very likable in s1 and s2 when he's not in a relationship with el, but 'insufferable' in s3 and s4 when he is in a relationship with el
after being el says 'i love you too' to mike in s3 epilogue, he does not reciprocate, keeps his eyes open, and ends the scene looking disgusted and confused
in s3, after el broke up with mike, max says that mike is going to be running to her, begging her to take him back, implying this is how you're supposed to deal with a fight in a romantic context. however, mike does not do this. instead, he makes lays around in his basement and makes misogynistic comments about women. however, after he gets into a fight with will, he bikes across town in a thunder storm just to apologize to will.
"our son with a girl?" -ted wheeler
in his book, dustin states that el and mike never seemed to have anything to talk about with each other. in contrast, will states "talking to you is always easy" in his letter to mike
while talking about mike and wills relationship, noah said "you could never really tell if it was something romantic or just a really special friendship" meaning that you are supposed to question the closeness of mike and will's relationship
giving will a bf/love interest that is not mike in s5 would simply be lazy writing
mike rejecting will would not give any purpose to the plotline of will being in love with mike
no characters in the show actually like m*leven
while talking about lucas and max's relationship, caleb said "it's not like mike and eleven, it's real"
in s4, m*leven is paralleled to st*ncy, while byler is paralleled to jancy
might add to this later if i remember anything else
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me reading the long posts about the exact same byler proofs that ive known about since 2022:

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"i need will byers' lash serum" its fucking tears. his lashes are so long because he's been crying so much.
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BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER | (1999) STRANGER THINGS | (2016-)
firstly pointed out by lesbianmindflayer. could they be more obvious?
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Another thing I noticed that I’ve never seen anyone mention is the fact that mike only talks about confessing to El in the context of her needing/relying on him. Both times when he’s discussing their fight with Will, he never says that he wants to tell her that he loves her to make it clear how he feels. He says that he should have said “that thing” because “maybe then she would want me with her/have taken me with her”. He’s only thinking about a confession as a way to restore El’s reliance on him (although he probably doesn’t realize that himself).
It’s shown that one of the things mike REALLY wants is to be relied on/needed, with fits with his characterization as a leader. His main concern with El is that “she’ll realize that she doesn’t need me anymore”, so he’s subconsciously treating a confession of romantic love as a way to convince her that he’s there for her and she can rely on him. I think right now in the series mike is feeling a little useless, especially because he wasn’t as much of a main player in s3-4 as he was in s1-2. Possibly he feels like no one needs him anymore, or relies on him/trusts him, which negatively impacts his self worth because he really wants to be the person that others look to for help (will and el specifically) like he was in s1-2. He’s clinging on to his relationship with El as a last ditch way to hold onto the way her trust in him s1 era made him feel. But his and el’s arcs aren’t compatible—El’s arc since season 2 has been about her finding her independence. El and Mike’s true wants and needs aren’t matching up anymore and haven’t for a long time. However, we know who still does rely on mike, says that he needs him and obviously trusts him…Will. My prediction is that Mike’s insecurities around not being relied on/trusted will be addressed in s5 through Will’s lie about the painting, because he and Will have always been very truthful with each other (never mind that Will was telling a VERSION of the truth…he won’t admit that lightly I don’t think). I think Mike reportedly being back as a leader in s5 is a continuation with his journey and struggle with his self worth coming from others looking to him, and maybe this season he’ll truly own who he is no matter what other people do/think.
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Rebel Robin again, because i’m literally going bonkers insane. she’s talking about her friend who thinks of himself as a nerd.
“For all his Nerds Will Rule the World rhetoric, Dash isn’t really talking about the uprising of the weird and truly left out. He means guys like him, who intend to use their brains to win women and money and all of the other things they feel entitled to. They just want to invert the jock pyramid. If Dash knew i was gay, he would be the first one to laugh at me, to set the monster of this school snapping at my heels”
this is so SO telling to me. it’s the conservative general audience in a nutshell. stranger things IS made for the actual outcasts, not people like Dash. The show is for the people on the actual margins of society, this show wasn’t made for the majority. it just wasn’t.
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who up bluein they yellow 🗣
she blue on my yellow till i meet in the west
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she blue on my yellow till i meet in the west
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