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I think about the fact that CH4 revealed a good amount of our characters have knowledge about the story they're in, even if they don't know it. That the Prophecy is the basis of their religion means that the faithful would have studied it. Toriel doesn't know that she has a Deltarune 100% Completion All Secrets guide with her, nor do the other townsfolk (at least, the ones who aren't... you know.. Involved.)

Most of them are gated by the fact that they just don't know it's all going down right now. If Toriel finds out, she might pose a problem due to just how much she might know.

It's pretty much just Susie and us, the player, that aren't in on the deal. But for us, that gap closes with every chapter released. Eventually there's gonna be a time where we'll start a new game knowing just as much as Ralsei knows, if not more. At that point, Susie will be the only one out of the loop.

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dinosaurs are so aewsome i think they had fucking guns and shit

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COME FOLLOW ME INTO THE DARK

WITH YOUR HEART AS THE ARK

I just loved his rock star sprite so much <3 A rare straight-from-the-sketchbook post!

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one step closer to fitting in

close ups:

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finished chapter 4.

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dt thought: I think a lot of us assumed that mus_smile, the garbled noise that plays over Entry 17 and on the phone in the Dark Worlds, was a Gaster motif that connected him to the dark worlds. We heard it slowed down outside the bunker and thought, that's it, Gaster's in there. He must be

But I just thought about it, and I realized: what if it's not a Gaster motif, but a Dark World motif? Every time we hear it, it's in a context that connects to the Dark World (you hear it on the phone in the dark worlds, we know now that the inside of the bunker is a dark world, and Entry 17 refers to "photon readings negative", which we now know thanks to Ralsei to be exactly what creates dark worlds), but only Entry 17 is also explicitly connected to Gaster. Now, that's not to say that Gaster isn't connected to Dark Worlds at all, bc we still hear a split second of ANOTHER HIM when we land in Dark Worlds and that has to mean something, but I think the implication that mus_smile indicates not Gaster, but the Dark, to be very, very, interesting

Also, uh. You can hear the same rumbling as outside the bunker in the Holiday's basement. And Carol is all but outright stated to be part of whatever conspiracy is going on with the knight... and Kris... and the player?

...Is there a Dark World in the Holiday's basement?

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Y'know, I personally think the fountain turning to stone before hatching as a titan has significance

I wonder, if ralsei's fountain of pure darkness keeps any darkner from turning to stone...what would happen if a second fountain was opened there

Perhaps .. an angel?

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smells like holiday baking

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Happy let Papyrus say fuck day!

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It's good that Deltarune stands on it's own, but man. These two stories enrich each other so damn well, taking either in isolation will just never feel like a complete experience for me any more. It's just gotta be both.

it fucks me up that there are people who don't have extensive knowledge on undertale lore. you don't know FUN values?? this is the wrong number song we're very very sorry that we got it wrong???

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Drew silly Ralsei art for fun. fully done in mspaint!

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RALSUSIERALSUSIERALSUSIE RAGGHHH

haha oh susie you're getting fed by someone who's not real... haha.......

this is for a lenticular photocard I'm going to print (for myself)

okay enjoy your meal, more deltarune drawings later, bye

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That dialogue combined with other NPC's mentioning him having an "obsession" that I think is implied to be connected to him being removed from the force gives me the theory that he stumbled onto the Dark World stuff when he was Chief of Police, probably while searching for Dess, and began investigating that - of course since that's fantasy stuff no-one believes in everyone probably saw this as Asgore dropping the Dess investigation in favor of fantasy conspiracy crap. I personally think he's working undercover with Carol, but is there for the same reasons we are - to get information there. This is just my initial theory though, I don't think there's enough to really lock into it yet.

Deltarune chapter 4 spoilers ahead

I DESPERATELY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS Because

ASGORE, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU??? PUT THAT THING DOWN IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU

ARE WE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS??? ASGORE PLEASE NO

Like, EVERYONE in Kris's family is messed up at this point. Poor Kris has to deal with all of this, while also Sealing Fountains, and trying to keep Susie from finding out about the whole "yeah, i'm actually not who you thought i was this entire time, i'm just being CONTROLLED by a HUMAN SOUL that ISN'T MINE APPARENTLY."

AND Susie is finally making friends, finally opening up to people about her past, and then RALSEI IS HIDING SHIT, KRIS IS HIDING MORE WORSE SHIT, AND THE ONLY OTHER ADULT SHE TRUSTED OUTSIDE OF TORIEL TURNED OUT TO BE DEAD.

Everyone is going to be falling apart at the end of this. the fun gang/lancer fan club/shit squad is going through it right now.

DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON RALSEI. THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING THAT HE COULD BE HIDING THAT'S WORTH THE LYING, AND THE SNEAKING, AND THE TIPTOEING AROUND THE PROPHECY, IS THAT HE'LL DIE OR SOMETHING, SO HE'S TRYING TO EASE THE BLOW OF IT.

I'm not even THINKING about the connotations of Asgore having a SHADOW CRYSTAL, and the EFFECTS it will have on the overall future of the story.

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HOLD ON, PUMP THE BRAKES.

Shadow Crystals are see-through, only visible by the shadow they leave behind. This is not a shadow crystal. The Black Shard is an item we see in another part of the game. It is your reward for managing to defeat the Knight in Ch 3.

Asgore is carrying an item that, as far as we know, can only be obtained by facing the Roaring Knight in battle and winning.

Deltarune chapter 4 spoilers ahead

I DESPERATELY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS Because

ASGORE, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU??? PUT THAT THING DOWN IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU

ARE WE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS??? ASGORE PLEASE NO

Like, EVERYONE in Kris's family is messed up at this point. Poor Kris has to deal with all of this, while also Sealing Fountains, and trying to keep Susie from finding out about the whole "yeah, i'm actually not who you thought i was this entire time, i'm just being CONTROLLED by a HUMAN SOUL that ISN'T MINE APPARENTLY."

AND Susie is finally making friends, finally opening up to people about her past, and then RALSEI IS HIDING SHIT, KRIS IS HIDING MORE WORSE SHIT, AND THE ONLY OTHER ADULT SHE TRUSTED OUTSIDE OF TORIEL TURNED OUT TO BE DEAD.

Everyone is going to be falling apart at the end of this. the fun gang/lancer fan club/shit squad is going through it right now.

DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON RALSEI. THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING THAT HE COULD BE HIDING THAT'S WORTH THE LYING, AND THE SNEAKING, AND THE TIPTOEING AROUND THE PROPHECY, IS THAT HE'LL DIE OR SOMETHING, SO HE'S TRYING TO EASE THE BLOW OF IT.

I'm not even THINKING about the connotations of Asgore having a SHADOW CRYSTAL, and the EFFECTS it will have on the overall future of the story.

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okay see the problem with this thesis is that the yearner is also dahlie, and therefore veils can get off scot free by simply dating her as well (something it was lowkey already doing)

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@thegreatyin

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art for my dear buddy @echobsilly ! what a lovely scene to draw hehe