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I love the Leo vs bangar saga

Half of leo's playlist is related to ibs thats how much beef he has with the charr legions

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Crazy selection and transition of songs for those who know the leo lore

Half of leo's playlist is related to ibs thats how much beef he has with the charr legions

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Half of leo's playlist is related to ibs thats how much beef he has with the charr legions

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Oops! …I Did It Again (Disappeared Under Mysterious Circumstances and Returned Physically Intact but Intrinsically Altered by a Terrible Journey Through the Other-World)

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La muerte

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11 and 14, RytLeo 👁️👁️

14. What's an opinion they'll never agree on? How do they deal with that?

Theyll never agree on what happened in the mists, and Leo will never forgive him for freeing Balthazar lmao.

The thing you must know was that in ls2 Leo was trying So Hard to convince Rytlock to let him do the ritual. He has a strong magical background, has a deel understanding of the spectral magic in Ascalon, ane is, as a necromancer, extremely familiar with the mists. In Leo's eyes it SHOULD have been him, so when things started going off the walls Leo was nearly the one to go in but was blindsided by the imperator stopping him bc it was Rytlock's duty specifically, and Rytlock urgently chasing after it.

Leo, you have to remember, his whole THING IS trying to free to souls of Ascalon, thats literally what his huge reason for becoming a necromancer was. So he felt robbed by the charr chain of command. THEN learning that Rytlock freed Balthazar? It didnt matter sohothin was back in posession at that point, even so Leo KNEW the mask Rytlock puts on, he Knows Rytlock's dependency on sohothin due to his past of being bullied and treated as less than. Yes, Rytlock was manipulated by a human god, but its Because Leo already has this idea in his head that it Should Have Been Him, that he is being 10x harsher. He, in his mind, wouldnt have fallen for it, he would have known better, he would have found another way. And he is Hypocritical, bc Leo made a pact with a human god (grenth). Its just the consequences of that pact are only on him, Rytlock brings this up during an argument but it doesnt phase leo bc the only person losing bc of that deal Is Him, no one else got hurt.

Do I think Leo was correct for being angry? Yeah, but I also think hes extremely stubborn, self-righteous, and hypocritical. There isnt meant to ever be a good resolution for this, its forever a huge chasm in their relationship and goes back to how I frame their relationship as the ashes of a fire post pof.

Its even worse that the commander was killed then had to defy death (something leo hates bc he holds the cycle of life and death as sacred) which adds to him already being pissed LMAO.

11 is here!

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Romance Asks - 4,5, and 8!!!!

4. Is there someone else who would be a better partner for either of them?

Oh, Absolutely LMAO. FOR LEO, Mostly, and still a bit for Rytlock but Ive always saw their post PoF relationship as Leo being way too good for rytlock and Leo accepting he will never find the type of life fulfillment he would actually want.

This is going to come up a lot but Post PoF their relationship is in this weird place of sticking together bc that feels like both of their only options. Theres even a line where Leo is talking to Rytlock about having to deny the life he would have with the Olmakhan had he left it all to join them. This is a life Leo wants, its a life he wants every charr to have a chance at choosing, but the legions arent there and his work to change them isnt done so he has to decline it. Rytlock says something along the lines of "you deserve a better life than one I can give you" to which leo simply responds with " I know."

I dont really ship rytlock and leo bc I think theyre the perfect couple, I ship them bc of the circumstances that lead them together and that red chain they forge between each other which makes it so that they never really seperate. Is this a good thing? No! But thats part of their story!  I think part of the tragedy of leo's character in particular is that he will never have the life he deserves bc the path he decided to travel down. But they accept this about their relationship, they stick together, theres a sort of gentleness between them that they treat each other in the ashes of that post Pof Fire bc of them reaching that acceptance between the other and the situation theyve been given. Theyre Choosing to remain as they are. Its not that they both dont care for each other, its just a complicated history with some things going unforgiven.

As for Rytlock. Its funny bc I feel like, I dont know if in canon rytlock and crecia end up back together or not, but regardless I think he kind of finds the relatability hes missing from leo in regards to his own struggles In his reconnecting/repairing the bridge with her. So hes kinda doing a bit better than Leo in having a greater sense of fufillment. Heres how I view it; if theyre together in canon then its just a like, im the wife wife, this is my husband and his wife situation, and if not then its just a friendship but regardless it doesnt change much ngl.

5. Is the relationship living up to their initial expectations?

Kinda???.....mostly bc I dont think their expectations were really that grand to begin with due to the nature of legion charr relationships. Theyre still together though, so in that sense their expectation of being together is there LMAO.

8. What would it take for them to break up?

I honestly think this is mostly on leo. Let me post a little paragraph from a prev rytleo ramble post for context.

"They are not a red string of fate, rather a forged red chain. Charr care a lot about loyalty, they care about loyalty in a way that I feel is hard to describe other than something deeply rooted in their culture thus hard to shake. During the time Leo and Rytlock spent together as Leo climbed the ranks and together they took on Ascalonian missions, sharing nights, swapping stories, sparring, challenging, they forged that bond. A bond between two people with no other options. They chose each other. "

Its not just that Rytlock is there, its that they have such a long history at this point that nobody else in Leo's life can replicate. I do think there is a small chance someone with a similar history, similar goals and similar experience could come along and Leo may feel he could forge a better relationship with that person while still chasing his own goals within the legion but that chance is So Slim imo. For Rytlock...he loves leo, and even worse he kinda sees leo as a way to atone with how he fucked up with Crecia. So hes not really the one I could ever see instigating a seperation.

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Did you know your local blood legion tribune is of the lgbt?

Anyway Idk if I ever made an actual big post w leo’s pride flags so have this small one for now.

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Wait im actually extremely curious do crecia and Rytlock canonically get back together or is it like, vague or left to interpretation

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every overthinker should have someone to fuck them stupid

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Did I ever mention leo's pact with grenth before, idk if i ever discussed it in detail but leo made a deal with a human god before it was cool bc of rytlock (JOKE)

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Sorry guys im still in ls3 I just remember ls4 being the best piece of storytelling gw2 ever pumped out 👍

REALIZING KRALKATORRIK AND LEO HAVE THE SAME DAMAGED EYE PLACEMENT OUGHHH CINEMA CINEMA CINEMA

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REALIZING KRALKATORRIK AND LEO HAVE THE SAME DAMAGED EYE PLACEMENT OUGHHH CINEMA CINEMA CINEMA

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I dont like needlessly punishing my ocs, mind you, i find that uninteresting. However, I like consequences and I like when those consequences make sense.

Leo is like the epitome of suffering oc if only bc it makes sense. This is a man who is out to set an entire ingrained culture for charr bc its incredibly war mongering and creates a very toxic cycle. Someone doesnt just...even attempt to do that and come out completely unscathed. Its hard, and then being in the thick of the dragon battle against nature wars, and constantly being someone seeing conflict first hand while trying to preserve his own sense of empathy/care and Continue to keep his own original motive going while literally sacrificing his own happiness forever and ever bc hes choosing to put his goals before his own needs. LITERALLY the only thing he will set it aside for are his adopted daughters. And theyre living their own lives. My reasoning for making him own as balls is simply a consequence from taking in otherwordly dragon magic and postponing natural death, and maybe, maybe even reworking his original deal with grenth bc what is more torturous than giving the guy who respects death than preventing him from it...

I like the idea that leo will still be old as balls kicking around in gw3 just bc I think it would add to his ongoing forever torment nexus and thats fun to me. Leo is like odysseus 2 me iykwim

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I like the idea that leo will still be old as balls kicking around in gw3 just bc I think it would add to his ongoing forever torment nexus and thats fun to me. Leo is like odysseus 2 me iykwim

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I love the fact that leo is a tribune for a variety reasons but mostly bc he doesnt fit the standard idea of what a tribune Looks or acts like

1.Hes noticably short

2. He has what would be considered widely different opinions on the current state of charr's militaristic culture he is like. Charr far far left

3. Gnc

4. The youngest

5. A magic user, a necromancer at that

Leo managing to aquire the rank of a Tribune is something that is supposed to be surprising and whispered about throughout the black and blood citadels. Everyone has their opinions or theories but the Reason he was given that rank was for Bangar's own ultieror motives to keep tract of a serious threat to power (the pact commander) through someone from his own legion who happened to be at the right place at the right time, continuously. Leo of course still demands respect for his position, but i always kind of chuckle to myself bc he is noticably still such a black sheep of tribunes.