hifromthevoid
hifromthevoid
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slow ramblings about divination, prediction, entropy, information, chaos, perception, attention, ahhh and what else the hell not
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hifromthevoid · 7 days ago
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Omkalach Phtum
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hifromthevoid · 7 days ago
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Ishnahazaim Ooleor
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hifromthevoid · 24 days ago
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Asmodeus and his protection
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hifromthevoid · 26 days ago
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Marbas and his patience and precision
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Paimon and his dream
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Buer and his wisdom and kindness
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Baal Zee Bul and his tiredness of all the shit that's been and that's to come and waiting for beer
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Gomory and her curiosity and excitement
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Pruflas and his precision
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hifromthevoid · 27 days ago
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Bune and Belial visit an upstart practitioner in the practitioner's mind
"you ever need a good shotgun, child, you call me up"
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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Judgement and Death reversed
It may feel like the end of the world, but somehow life goes on.
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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Horary astrology chart but each house and planet are cards
in the mood to do unhinged tarot but i have no good ideas for it
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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If magic is an omnipresent aspect of our being, that just _is_ here whether we like it or not or know about it or not, then arguing about morality of using it is like arguing about morality of using gravity to sit and walk, as if that needs defense too.
hey, chicken! based on your last post (the morality of witchcraft), how would you defend the idea that witchcraft ISN’T cheating/immoral?
We are in reference to this post
So I'm not like, a philosophy guy. And I don't have an answer at all. But by God I'll write an essay.
I believe the problem that causes some people to view magic as immoral/cheating, is that magic is viewed as being a force which, by default, causes harm. So if you're using it to benefit yourself, then that's always unfair/cheating.
This is mitigated if you use magic to help others, because it's immoral to help yourself (?) but okay to help others, which is just then net neutral, so magic is rarely allowed to be good. It's either neutral or bad.
However, if you don't get explicit permission to cast beneficial magic on others, then you're for sure evil. So most magic, most of the time, is always unethical to some degree. Because most magic, most of the time, is harmful and self-serving.
Right.
"Job spells manipulate hiring managers, and take away their free will. You are compelling someone else's mind to make a choice they wouldn't have otherwise made."
Well, why do we think that is true? Why would any generic "bippity boppity basil brings the jobbity" spell default to harmful mind-control?
I think what people are seeing is: a hiring manager makes a choice they wouldn't have otherwise made. And because they view witchcraft as inherently harmful and self-serving, this means that the hiring manager must have been the victim of unethical action.
Let's use a little hyperbole to engage in a thought exercise. What if the default view was that witchcraft was helpful and community-serving?:
When workers can't find jobs, that is an indicator of sickness in the spiritual body of local commerce. If you cast a job spell on yourself to find employment, you are healing one strand of that sickness. This healing is always good, just as relaxing one strand of a muscle spasm is always good.
Job spells would never ""steal"" a job from somebody else, that's just not how they work. Can you imagine thinking that sending beneficial employment energy into a community would somehow result in stealing jobs? That's literally the opposite intent. That would be like casting a protection spell that automatically puts people in danger because you are "stealing" their protection!
When you cast a job spell, what's actually happening is that you are bringing healing and support to companies who tend to be under-staffed. You are also unblocking and banishing policies that tend to turn away great candidates just because they don't have a buzzword on their resume. Companies, employees, and managers always benefit when job spells are cast on their company.
You might be pointing out that well, sure - but that's not how job spells work. The actual mechanisms depend on the type of spell you cast.
Which brings me back to the earlier point: then why is the bippity boppity basil brings jobbity spell assumed to work with an unethical mechanism?
Why is the common defense for this, "well, somebody has got to get the job and witchcraft is nothing but an advantage, just like Excel is an advantage on the resume, so if doing witchcraft is unethical, so is learning Excel, so there." ?
Why isn't the defense, "no, it's not unethical. Is pouring water into a drought-stricken pond unethical? Casting a job spell literally means generating energies of beneficial employment. When you release that into your community, you are pouring water into the evaporating pond. Those energies of beneficial employment would not have existed if you did not cast the spell, and they are fundamentally healing and restorative to your local economy, no matter whom they benefit. A job spell, by definition, challenges energies of unemployment and poverty. How could you think that's a bad thing?"
Do you see what I mean, Anon?
Why is a popular default assumption that magic is thieving, manipulative, and ruinous?
Why isn't the assumption rather that magic is generative, restorative, and healing?
Look, I'm not saying that I think all witchcraft actually is healing or restorative. My point is just to provide contrast. Having to prove that witchcraft isn't cheating is the wrong stance. You're already two steps in the wrong direction.
At the core of it all, I think it takes stepping back and asking: How did I get to a place where I have to convince myself I'm not a bad person for engaging in my faith?
I think the idea of 'the path of least resistance' has caused brainrot to the point where people actually think that it takes the same amount of magical force to kill your grandma as it does to get an Etsy sale.
I'm not saying that witches have never accidentally fucked stuff up with a badly planned spell. It happens all the time.
But I think it's pertinent to ask. If you live in a reality where you believe you don't need spiritual protection because nobody is targeting you, is that mutually exclusive with the belief that magic can easily cause awful things to happen to innocent, untargeted bystanders?
So like, if the universe is such that the behaviors of spirits and practitioners just trying to achieve their own goals is stealing, cheating, and harmful, would that not mean that the magical ecosystem we live in is indeed very dangerous, much more dangerous than mundane reality?
How can we say, "protection is almost never necessary because nobody is going to target you; but you'd better be careful, because any magical action can accidentally steal from or harm untargeted innocent bystanders."?
I don't think we get to have it both ways.
But I think both of these things stem from the same source: a worldview that colors perception of witchcraft. It doesn't come from witchcraft, but was rather applied to it.
So that's why I don't have an answer for you, Anon. How can I argue that witchcraft isn't cheating or immoral? If a witch believes that helping themselves is sinful, then any time they do that, I expect they will always feel like they are cheating or being self-centered. That's not witchcraft's fault.
If a witch believes that magic tends to maim, mind-control, and harm, I suppose that's either from personal experience and they are walking the most metal of paths, or that's because they just believe that magic is just kinda wicked.
And all I can say is, no. It's not.
But that's not a very good argument.
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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Corollary to what's written there. I may be wrong in my impressions but.
Some time ago some things and events in my life happened, after which I was like, hey, imma look into this whole "witchcraft" thing, because reasons or whatever. But the more I looked over the surface of it — I mean when you're researching something you gotta start somewhere, right? and obviously most of the time nowadays it's google — the more I saw rules rules rules rules rules.
And maybe that's a good thing to do, to have rules around your practice and all that. But I'm thinking, hey, we're dealing with weird stuff here. How are you going to test what's possible if you don't fuck around and find out? Life is not always "goodness".
Sometimes I poke ChatGPT or Claude about this or that. Try to ask it about a Tarot card meaning and it'll very often conclude with something like "the seeker must" or "the lesson is". Given that it's a programmatic text generation model trained on a very large corpus of texts, imagine how pervasive this mindset is. Or look at astrology reddits where people are asking in all seriousness something like "Pluto now goes here or there, what lessons am I supposed to learn or how am I supposed to feel?", and why is it always Pluto and where's any personal agency in that? But telling people that they have the power to enact change themselves is… futile? I don't know. Like, most of the time the lesson is just be yourself and go to a bar or a seashore, dammit, and just chill and get a beer or a taco and see a sunset.
As far as I'm concerned the "seeker" mustn't anything. And if you ask an AI assistant to not use silver linings and positivity mindset then it might suddenly become tangibly more usable. As if "enough" in general is a forgotten word and "neither good nor bad" is something abnormal.
My experiences with The Otherside, shall I call it that here, are nothing but most positive. As far as I'm concerned at this point, many many entities are rather okay and even happy that you contact them, and are very okay to be of help, just because you asked (kindly and respectfully). Duh, big chunguses (chungi? like fungus/fungi) like planetary intelligences can be like that. Archangels can be like that. Big scary whoever can be like that! If you're chill and curious they're chill and curious and many times very helpful. If you care to jump into their car they'll take you for a ride.
If you're seeking the "Otherside" experiences then maybe your rules are a stick in your bicycle wheel from that meme.
What if you actually don't cleanse your deck and it comes to you in a dream and teaches you things? Gosh, that might be awful… Or not happen at all if you lawyer yourself up in layers of contact repellant because the imperceptible world is so hostile to you even if you haven't done anything in it yet. (Not really.)
If you want an internet connection, don't cut a cable to your modem and wifi router — on that I certainly agree.
Once again in defense of witchcraft being not dangerous and fucking fine to do
I am pretty sure that some witches buy into worldviews that actively frame their own magic as inherently dangerous and unbalanced.
And I think that might be what's going on, at least some of the time, when witches eschew preventive cleansing and protection.
I think that we live in an active magical ecosystem where a lot of things are happening all the time, and almost none of those things have anything to do with us.
But somehow protection magic has developed a cringy veneer, as if in order to need it you'd have to think you're a main character who's being actively targeted by evil witches and spirits.
It seems that some witches have gotten the impression that in order to be well-balanced, they've got to believe that wolves don't exist. Neither do storms, diseases, accidents, or the unscrupulous.
Cleansing has gotten the same bad rap, I feel. Inasmuch as cleansing is removing unwanted energy, a lot of witches seem to live in a world where all energy is perfectly good and natural (but they're not love-and-light witches, how could you accuse of such a thing), and not only that, but all cleansing completely strips something of every possible energy. A cleansing can destroy the utility or value of magical objects.
Just like sweeping your floor automatically destroys the floorboards, underlayment, and foundations of your house, leaving nothing but dirt and crumbled plumbing.
So protection is unnecessary for normal people, and cleansing is at best destructive. (I'd be terrified to see the curses of many witches, given how powerfully withering their most basic cleansings are.)
But it's all well and good, and this part I actually do not mean sarcastically at all - it's all well and good, because keeping up a cleansing and protection routine actually takes a decent amount of time and energy.
Depending on your methods it can get pretty streamlined. But you're still putting something on your plate - ten minutes here, five minutes there. And it can kind of get away from you.
I mean, if you start teaching yourself how to cleanse unwanted energies, then I expect by and large you're going to end up able to sense and identify unwanted energies. And then you'll start finding more magic you could be doing to deal with more problems you've learned to identify.
But it does go on: then maybe you'll get a bit overwhelmed cleansing the home, so you'd rather make a protection for the home to just keep unwanted energy out. And then that takes maintenance. And then you find a better way to do things.
And you end up doing plenty of magic.
And, if you believe that certain types of energy can accumulate around a person and make problems, and sending that energy away is therefore is helpful; and if you believe that preventative magic can stop bad things from happening; then a regular cleansing and protection routine will help things get better and go better.
I'm not saying that everyone should do preventive and maintenance magic all the time. I'm not saying that people should believe in things the same way I believe in them.
What I am saying is, hey.
Isn't it kind of weird that some witches seem to have worldviews that frame their a lot of their own magic as inherently dangerous and unbalanced?
Isn't it also kind of weird how many witches say they wish they could be doing more magic?
But no, not that kind of magic. There's no problem to chase, and that kind of prevention isn't for them, they're not a main character. No, not that kind of magic, it's at high risk of being destructive. No, not that kind of magic, that would constitute stealing from others. No, not that kind of magic, that's unethical. No, not that kind of magic, it might have unintended consequences. Also, it's unethical. Also, it's cheating.
I kind of have a conspiracy theory, okay. It's that many witches who start out eschewing spiritual hygiene (like, cleansing and protection routines) do so because they want to establish that the magical ecosystem around them isn't inherently dangerous or bad. They don't want to be the kinds of witches who think all this magic stuff is dangerous.
And I agree with that. The magical world around us isn't inherently dangerous or bad. Not any more dangerous than the mundane world around us.
But I do think a lot of witches do view their own magic as dangerous and bad. Sometimes that badness is because magic is seen as inherently destructive (like cleansing that destroy, money spells that kill and maim relatives, and job spells that strip free will from hiring managers).
At other times, the badness stems from scrupulosity: that using magic itself is inherently immoral. Protection is bad because using it demonstrates self-centeredness and egotism. Money spells are bad because you're stealing (or cheating). Binding spells are bad because you're putting your needs before others. Conjuring anything at all - from a new friend to a lucky break - may be a bit selfish, I mean, can you imagine someone who could do magic just conjuring things for themselves, instead of only helping others?
And then witches wonder how they're meant to engage in their path, when there's hardly any magic that a moral, well-balanced person would ever do.
Well, anyway. I haven't got a proper ending. Thanks for listening to my essay. I hope you're all having a nice November so far.
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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It so fucken worked.
The full moon is coming
And while I'm pondering on divinations I would like or need to carry out
I've enchanted two pairs of my spectacles with a simple clockwise wiping of lenses and a chant for relaxing eye muscles and improving sight
Yeah!
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hifromthevoid · 9 months ago
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Three or four (can’t remember at this point) days of active spell prep and working.
Done mostly in-mind without much of physical devices or vessels. Run on four elementals and my own energy.
Everything went one hundred percent as I designed, against some fairly dangerous odds.
I’m drained like I was in a labor camp. Gotta use more outside power next time.
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hifromthevoid · 10 months ago
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X9 solar flare, if it was it, was not fun today.
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