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Ok, after seeing season 2 twice, I still don’t get it. Why does the ladies target/want Morpheus so badly? Why do they have beef with him? It feels just because “plot need it” to me and it’s just too weak.
Gif for attention. Help me dreamers, you are my only hope!
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It was good. Some loose ends but I’m sure that’ll be in next year movie/or show/the cinema thing.
It was very classical and even though it’s similar to Rebels’ ending it’s not a bad ending. Star Wars (except Rise of Skywalker) is all about hope so we definitely needed the baby and my only problem with it is that it was to obvious. Like we knew this was happening half a season ago.
I love most of the writing, there are pretty good balance between everything but my problem with Andor just like in season one, is that they don’t seem to have any idea what to do with Bix. I don’t mind her ending, I think it was what was needed but how she got there? It felt like Jyn all over again. Bix only value was as the love interest. Just as Jyn was just the one who knew everyone. They’re not relevant and you can write them out without changing the overall plot. They are just ”the reason.” That’s all. And frankly, we and the characters deserve better then that.
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A reminder
This is the end of the empire strikes back.
WandaVision, Agatha all along and Vision quest/show was written to be a trilogy. This is our darkest moment.
No matter if it will actually be the Vision show or the Wiccan show that turn out to be part three, we will get there.
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The two final episodes.
They were good enough episodes, the two only new things we found out was that Agatha and Nicky made the song and metaphorical road and that he was suppose to be stillborn/or die during the birth.
It’s such a tragic and human tale.
Agatha was a con all along, just as she was in WandaVision
I had hoped for some more new information and I hoped for Billy to bring the rest of the coven back. But it’s marvel, they play the century long game. Kinda like Rio.
The only one I fear might be gone for real is Sharon. Sharon, my love, you will be missed.
I’ll write a long post about it later, hopefully when the time isn’t 6 am.
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I see your point but I disagree. That Maleficent is a fairy just makes Billy more on point. Billy isn’t just a witch, he plays by his own rules just as Wanda, they are special and of course they are also mutants. Maleficent is both fairy and dragon just as Billy are both.
Rio is definitely her own player too and even more special than Billy. If they would have given Rio a Disney character it probably would be the horned king from the black cauldron or Atropos from Hercules. They would never go for this one but I’d love Rio as Prince from Snow White. That would be poetic.
I don’t find it weird that they used the wizard of oz, it’s popular and it’s probably the piece of fiction/media that has influenced the show the most.
Unfortunately I don’t think neither of those witches are iconic enough as movie characters for them to use. Is Sabrina the teenage witch iconic enough? She might have worked for Alice. Hmm. Narnia’s white witch would have been a great fit.
That I agree with. Teen’s outfit was on point!
Billy as Maleficent
I watched the movie from 2014 to try to figure out why they choose Maleficent for Billy. It didn’t give me much news about Billy tbh. It mostly confirmed that Billy’s future will be complex and most likely he will have a similar and complex hero/villain situation as we have with Wanda. At first I worried about Eddie being Stefan is Billy’s story but it doesn’t really fit for me. Will there be a Stefan in Billy’s future, sure but I do not think they will take the romantic route with it. More likely an important mentor or similar who will let him down. I don’t think it will be Agatha though. We are talking further ahead. For now, I think Maleficent role as a being both hero and villain is what it’s all about and acceptance of being both. As Teen is both William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff. For now they are treated like he has to figure out who he is. But in a very Oz fashion, it was there all along, he is both.
The entire movie is that we are both and merging together. (The ending felt a bit colonial and made me a bit uneasy but I see what they were trying to do)
Another important part of the Maleficent movie is untraditional families and, I don’t even have to explain that one.
It’s also interesting as Billy is a mirror to put Wanda as Maleficent and Billy as Aurora.
Aurora is sheltered and doesn’t know anything about who she really is until she turns 16 and is cursed. Just as Aurora started to be drawn and explore the Moor world, Teen has been drawn to witchcraft without really knowing why but when he turns 16 it all comes to light.
The entire Agatha show have been all about family and especially mother/child relationships, so yeah, Maleficent was an excellent choice for him.
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Lilia as Glinda, no questions there. She is the good witch, she is the one putting all her pieces together, she is the one giving the other back things they have or think they have lost.
Agatha as Elphaba, yep, I see that. Misunderstood, different, presumed evil.
Billy as Maleficent, make total sense, even without the cheekbones, check my own post about it if you want.
Jen as the evil queen, this one is harder for me. The similarities are too thin or far stretched, She is into skincare, potions? Water? She wants to look good, young? She might have drained others to stay young but they are already doing the draining thing with Agatha so probably not. Is she an agent of Mephisto? Hiding herself and her real motive to trick the coven? Hmm.
#agatha all along#agatha spoilers#jen kale#lilia calderu#agatha harkness#teen#billy maximoff#billy kaplan
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Billy as Maleficent
I watched the movie from 2014 to try to figure out why they choose Maleficent for Billy. It didn’t give me much news about Billy tbh. It mostly confirmed that Billy’s future will be complex and most likely he will have a similar and complex hero/villain situation as we have with Wanda. At first I worried about Eddie being Stefan is Billy’s story but it doesn’t really fit for me. Will there be a Stefan in Billy’s future, sure but I do not think they will take the romantic route with it. More likely an important mentor or similar who will let him down. I don’t think it will be Agatha though. We are talking further ahead. For now, I think Maleficent role as a being both hero and villain is what it’s all about and acceptance of being both. As Teen is both William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff. For now they are treated like he has to figure out who he is. But in a very Oz fashion, it was there all along, he is both.
The entire movie is that we are both and merging together. (The ending felt a bit colonial and made me a bit uneasy but I see what they were trying to do)
Another important part of the Maleficent movie is untraditional families and, I don’t even have to explain that one.
It’s also interesting as Billy is a mirror to put Wanda as Maleficent and Billy as Aurora.
Aurora is sheltered and doesn’t know anything about who she really is until she turns 16 and is cursed. Just as Aurora started to be drawn and explore the Moor world, Teen has been drawn to witchcraft without really knowing why but when he turns 16 it all comes to light.
The entire Agatha show have been all about family and especially mother/child relationships, so yeah, Maleficent was an excellent choice for him.
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Am I watching Maleficent so I can analyze Billy better in episode 7 of Agatha all along?
Yes, I am.
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Death’s hand in mine
So, we should talk about Rio and her role as Death. Generally speaking, death is seen as a reaper, collecting bodies or souls but in tarot, death is more of a metafor, She is endings but endings can be change, transformation or rebirth. I think we are bit too focused on the actual death part of death at the moment. I really don’t think that the role she plays at the moment. I’m not even sure any of them will be factually dead when the show is over. Whom they were will be dead though and they can’t go back. (Maybe Sharon would be dead as she did technically die on the road but the road can be an illusion.)
I’ve been thinking about Rio as the triple goddess, she can be literally all of them and none of them at the same time. Still musing on this one though.
Lady death in the comics have siblings, once even believed to have a twin, eternity, who we have been introduced to in Thor: Love and Thunder.
An interesting thing is Death’s power in the comics. It’s manipulate time, space, matter and reality. Just like two set of twins that we know.
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As I rewatched the last episode, with Lilia explained how time is an illusion and the end credit song being “time in a bottle”, which was also used in one of Quicksilver (and x-men, let’s be real) most iconic scene where he helps break out his father of pentagon.
Illusions. Wanda. Billy
Time. Peter/Pietro/Ralph/Randall. Tommy
I’m gonna need to pour myself a drink now.
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Agatha all Along episode 6, part 2
Familiar by thy side
Billy enter Westview
Parks by his old house. Feels
But this isn’t the time
His little black book is back. Who wrote it? Who wrote the comments, Billy or someone else?
Nice black and red cover
Not really anything we didn’t already know on those pages though, just the instructions and that it’s most effective during a waning moon.
Black heart Billy
We can’t see Rio, nice touch.
Love Agatha’s Bohner family reunion shirt.
This show is all about family reunions
Fantastic chase.
Sharon my love! I’ve missed you.
Pitch a tent? I have so many questions about the Bohner shirts but I’m also pretty sure I do not want to know the answers. Tough life.
Love that Agatha wears it though.
I would really like to hear her talking about Ralphie and their relationship, he is allways back there somewhere
Which the show wouldn’t bother with unless there is more to his story.
Lmao. Billy being supportive and condescending towards Agatha. But what else could he do?
Agree, let’s skip the physical violence
Let’s go back the the physical violence because poking the bear is just too awkwardly hilarious
Movie buff Billy knowing his stuff. 🖤
Totally loser or lying was horrible, it was too much for me
White picket fence with yellow daisies
Pushing daisies anyone?
Note how we are still on tv-shows, it’s not until the second trial on the road they start using movies
It’s still Wanda’s spell
Duct tape. Who else famously used duct tape, even even earlier in this episode
Agatha rolling in yellow
Billy doesn’t need the sigil anymore
I miss his crown
Agatha being Agatha, suspected all along but you also suspected he was Nicolas
The similarities between Billy and Wanda does make me emotional, I have to admit
Agatha is stripped of her layers, this is her showing who she is and she is happy to see Billy
Every witch with a beating heart can hear you now. Poetic, dramatic, it’s the witches’ way
Magic is about survival
Is Agatha Confirming that William is no longer with us now
Peptalk Agatha, she is good at it.
Aww, Baby Billy.
This is basically the plot of wizard or oz
Flesh and wires. 😂
Agatha, projecting mommy issues much
Two of you.
Toby, Tommy.
You really are a Maximoff. knowing a few of those Agatha?
And also like she isn’t also dramatic in a very Magneto fashion.
What’s with the mustache?
Who is a nice person?
What is a nice person
How is a nice person?
Can’t wait for tonight.
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Agatha all along episode 6 Part one
Familiar by thy side
It was beautiful and honestly answered a lot more questions than I expected it to do.
Seeing Agatha from Teens perspective was hilarious.
Both Williams was handled very beautifully and Joe did a fantastic job!
The chair that resembles a toilet seat at William’s Bar Mitzvah really throws me out of it though. I’ve seen it about six times now and I just can’t with that chair. Who saw that chair and went, yes this is it?!
Billy is going through a blue drapery to get to a mostly red space about his future. I see what you did there.
Also I love the lamp
Lilia herself in gold and blue, no necklace.
Very nice blue and red colours together in Lilia’s tent.
Also notice the tower tarot card, representing Sudden change, upheaval, chaos, revelation and awakening.
And The wheel of fortune card, representing karma, good luck, life cycles, destiny and turning points. Notice that I’m not a that good at tarot so I may get it wrong.
Also more sun symbolism with Lilia
Upside down Billy
Lilia says the tower reverse, a big personal change and transformation coming. Make total sense
Lilia just remembering something, once again, kin implies she exists out of time, what is time for her, how does she experience it, can she affect it?
I yelled when Billy said he loved the vibe in the tent, very early Argento. I had to take a break.
Argento, the director and writer of Suspiria, the witch movie which was the inspiration for episode 4.
This is huge! This indicates that it’s actually Billy that keep the road in movie/tv-themes, not Wanda or any leftover of her spells. Which we also see mote of later in the episode.
Of course, now we have new questions.
Like does he know?! Or is he trying to cope with losses like his mom?
The sigil is interesting, (not just because it’s a beautiful nod as a W or WW) but does it hide Tommy too? Since neither Wanda or Billy can find him. Also notice how later Agatha will say there are two of you, implying the are one or two pieces of a whole.
Why does Lilia want to hide them?
Interesting that the radio air the first episode of WandaVision.
William shouting “mom, look out” as they get in the car crash. Don’t touch me!
And the dome and the dead tree by the car. Beautiful but hurts.
Red glass shards. Once again beautiful but hurts.
Bye Tommy
ALICE! Good to see you darling!
Greg knowing what’s up.
WILLIAM/BILLY’s room!
His signature blue
The movie posters and the actual wizard of oz toys in his bookshelf.
I started writing down all the movie posters but some were obvious or too hard to make out so I let it go.
Eddie being cute.
Freak like momma.
And he taking everything Billy tells him better than I would have.
Nice trans flag.
Now as he have grown up, it’s all horror movies and the occult.
We’re off to my second scream and had to take a break in this episode.
But first, their usernames? lol. They worked hard on those two.
Ralph/Randall/Pietro/Peter (in my culture we have a saying that goes, a loved child has many names.) You are doing great sweetheart!
I gotta admit I thought they were gonna let us wait for VisionQuest to see him again. I’m thrilled!
Not really a fan of the red hair they gave him but, I get it. It matches Wanda
Also, love his stealth, very stealthy.
Nope, sorry Ralphie, can’t call a a kid Bub when you willingly goes online as Bohnerrific69. There are rules. And also made me google that just to get the spelling correctly.
Notice how he talk about Wanda, ge calls it sad but he talks gently about her and the one he is actually actively angry about is Agatha.
Also notice how when Billy asks about if it changed him or if he can do stuff now, he gets very serious for a moment and ask him what he is talking about.
Billy, I need to know if that water actually hurt you.
And never, ever yell Mr. Bonherrific.
I really can’t make out what Ralphie is shaking? First. Thought it was mr Dibbles or hoped. lol
The market value? Hon, she is still in the house! Priorities here.
My sweet baby, but yeah, keeping Monica in the attic was a bit much.
RIP Sparky. It was Ralph all along.
Speedster and mind reading brother. Babies!
Wanda is dead, sure jan.
Not the blu-ray collection!!!
Another movie buff in the Maximoff family. I get emotional writing this.
Agatha can keep his Bow-Flex, thread mills. Funny, not liked he needs it.
Go to his one man show in Paramus please!
Dreadit lol
Down the road baby!
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Hit me. Hard.
so I got into grad school today with my shitty 2.8 gpa and the moral of the story is reblog those good luck posts for the love of god
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Agatha all Along episode 4 part 1
I’m late with this post but life happens, a positive thing with it is that I have hade the time to rewatch it. A few times.
Who is Agatha talking to? Rio was my first guess as Sharon wasn’t really dead before the oven but would that have made Agatha wary about summoning another green witch?
Sharon is being compared to Lorna. So I guess that makes her one of the mother-characters. As Agatha and Lorna. Teen and Alice are obviously the maiden and Lilia and Jen are the crane.
Sharon is still Mrs. Hart. Wanda’s spell lingers?
Love Agatha speaking Spanish out of nowhere.
And I love Agatha being so sure it is, with coven two. Personally I find it very unlikely and it’s a metaphor about Agatha and her relationship not only with magic but people in general.
I’m 100 % on With Coven true
Or as it’s not part of Lorna’s version of the ballad it’s more about what the witch put in it?
So to the Flower Sharon’s grave. It’s Gypsophila paniculata, Native to central/eastern Europe also known as Baby’s breath and supposedly smell like sour milk. Life and death again. That’s also were Rio comes to the road.
They are Coven-less witches, rule breakers. Chaos witches you might say. 😏
Who wrote Teen’s book?! Pocket-size darkhold?
Now what they ask for in the new green witch
Lilia, may she be strong and wise and the best at her craft. <- knows how to actually be helpful.
Agatha, Smart not annoying, no political. Really Agatha?
Jen Pleasent looking wth Jen? Priorities.
Alice bring Advil, lol. I felt her headache and then I was made aware about the ADVIL=VIDAL. Beautiful, 10/10.
Teen thinks they have created a zombie. Teen, my boy, are you a zombie?
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Unfortunately I don’t have time to continue this right now. Hopefully before episode 5 airs.
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It is interesting that all the episodes on Agatha has a tv-theme just as WandaVision. This episode seems to have been a movie though but before this one it has been tv-shows. If someone can think of a show please tell me.
The movie is Suspiria
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Agatha’s nope and instinct to runnwhen Jen mentions Death is amazing.
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What’s up with Westview and Witches?
I’ve been thinking again.
Westview and close by have to be a an important geographical location to inhabit so many withches. I mean we have Agatha, Lilia, Alice, Jen, Billy and Wanda. I also want to throw in Dottie here, as she is also most likely a witch. And we can’t forget the icon Sharon.
The funniest thing to me is that Dottie, Wanda and Agatha lives as next door neighbors. Am I suppose to believe that these two or three really powerful witches just happened to get houses right next to each other?!
Loved the friend of Lilia that was burned in the oven. Hello dottie! (Emma was the evil and blind witch from Hansel and Gretel on Once upon a time in 7 episodes).
Sharon also live in walking distance/same neighborhood and Jen have been avoiding Agatha but she still choose to live that close to her and Lilia is in driving distance and Alice is at the local mall. Excluding Sharon, none of these witches are newbies.
There is supposed to be potential witches for a coven in every 3 miles/~5 km area. That’s insanely close to each other. I use to run further than that every week on p-e. (It was hell, don’t recommend)
So it must be a nexus point. They draw power from there. Is it like a magnet for witches?
How long has any of them lived there? We know about Agatha. But the others? How known is this nexus? What does the nexus do/mean? An opening of some sorts but to what. Hell, magic, nexus place like portals through the multiverse?
How much did Vision know when he chose Vestview? Did he choose it?
Pietro/Ralph why was he there? Why did Agatha decide yes, this is the man whose house and wife I shall play. Why not herb? What did Agatha know about him?
How come Wanda and Peter/Pietro/Ralph ended up next to each other? Of all houses and towns and places?
And where is “Ralph” now?
How much of this is Mephisto?
How much is Wanda?
Also the wine, red queen. Wanda poisoning them?
Everyone except Agatha drank it willingly.
The antidote being called Alewife’s revenge. Hilarious!
So alewife is a name for a woman brewing ale.
But it’s also a fish, a type of herring.
And the red wine.
So a red herring who seeks revenge?
The wine and the antidote was never the real trial or the real problem, just as Wanda isn’t the real problem. She is a decoy.
Need to pay more attention to teen and his little book. From the alewife scene it’s looks like it has an extra book cover over the actual book. Very interesting.
He walking past the stork painting and then disappearing is also interesting, remember the stork in WandaVision. Teen keeps being around symbols of a child or death.
I love this show so much!
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#Two kinds of lesbian couples (insp)
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