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Michael Clifford is not straight: a masterpost

I’ve been meaning to make this post for a while now, because I have seen some people who got mad at Michael for “joking” he was bisexual in a twitcam years ago. Personally I don’t believe he was, which is something I will get into later in this post. I feel like many people are not connecting the dots between things Michael has said and I think it’s time people start taking him seriously. Another reason I am making this post is because I’d like to have some things in 1 place, so it’s like an archive. If something ever comes up I would not have to search countless of other blogs or YouTube video’s to find 1 specific moment. There also don’t seem to be many masterposts in this fandom and if there are they haven’t been updated in a while.

A bit of a disclaimer beforehand. I believe in Muke as a couple. I am not entirely sure what they are at the moment or what their exact status has been over the years. But I genuinely believe that they have been involved (and possible are still) in a romantic relationship. I don’t wanna assume anyone’s sexuality, unless they have come out and say so themselves, so I’m not discussing my personal opinions about that on this blog. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Also, please don’t go bother Michael or anyone around him with questions or demands regarding his relationship(s) and sexuality. If he wants us to know (or is able to) then he will tell us. The point of this post is to maybe open a few eyes and take Michael seriously when he hints at not being straight, because he has given us so many hints and yet many people play it off as if he was joking. To finally start this post, here are some reasons I think Michael is not straight.

Muke

This one seems pretty obvious, so I’m not going to go into too much detail here. Because Muke on its own is just a small part of why I think Michael is not straight. But it simultaneously is also a big part, because it’s what made me make this post in the first place. Even if Michael and Luke have never been in any sort of relationship that’s more than platonic, I would still believe Michael is not straight. Back to Muke, I cannot simply narrow it down to 1 moment. There is so much of them and I keep finding new stuff. I highly suggest taking a look at these posts as a start: Muke masterpost, Muke gifs. Not all the links in the masterpost work anymore unfortunately, so I might make a separate Muke masterpost sometime. If I do you will find it on here obviously.

Michael saying he’s bisexual

Now this is a moment that has been talked about the most. The infamous Twitcam where Michael says “I just gonna tell everyone that I’m bisexual”. At 23:17 it starts with Calum reminding everyone that he is straight and likes girls. Michael then feels the need to mention that he is bisexual. To which Calum then replies “You shouldn’t have said that, cause everyone is gonna take it seriously”. Many people seem to think Michael was joking here, maybe he was. I’ve seen Michael make jokes before and he seems quite serious here if you ask me. He’s not laughing it off. The fact that Calum felt the need to clarify that Michael was joking tells me he probably wasn’t. Michael himself could have laughed it off and said he was kidding, but he never did. It wouldn’t have been a great joke, for obvious reasons, but it would have been more believable as a joke. This just seems like Calum was covering for him.

Michael’s “jokes”

We all know Michael has a very particular sense of humor. He is known to say some crazy things at times. It’s sort of what we love about him as well. He jokes around a lot and sometimes appears to say things for shock value. Though it’s hard to deny Michael seems to love making jokes about things like dicks, penisses and balls. Now ofc, a lot of these were made when he was still quite young and can be considered as just a joke. They are jokes in the end. But that doesn’t mean we don’t need to take them at least a little bit serious. It’s easy to hint at not being straight while playing it off as a joke. If someone were to ask about it he could say “oh it’s just a joke, it doesn’t mean anything”. I think the main reason why many people don’t consider the option that he may not be straight is because they don’t take him seriously. He’s gotten good at the joking and he knows he can get away with it, without it raising too many eyebrows. Here are a few examples:“

All I can talk about is penis” (55:35)

Luke sucks balls

“Fangirling” over Calum (5:43 & 7:30)

Dick on dick (to be fair, this is a very not straight thing from all 3 of them, but Michael definitely seems very invested in the topic)

“Great shape” (0:48) (LBR he was making a dick joke)

“Wanna make out?” (He says it so casually, I almost feel he would have gone for it if Calum had said yes)

“The most handsome man I’ve ever seen” (1:40) (I don’t even know what to say about this. Sure it’s a compliment, but it’s not generally something a straight man would notice or say about another man.)

Belly shots (0:11) (He would even do it sober, need I say anything else?)

Body shots and Calum’s dick (0:21) (This one and the previous one are both from 2018, so I can’t even consider this teenage humor. This is probably the least straight thing I’ve heard him say so far.)

Michael thinks Luke is fit

So the question for this starts at 2:42. Ashtons first starts talking about Duke. Followed by saying Luke is the one to most likely eat everything in the fridge. When Ashton starts explaining why, it gets interesting. Because “he’s a fit, strong, handsome man”. Then watch Michael adding “he is”, with a very knowing look at the camera. Very unnecessary to add, but I guess Michael had to make his thoughts clear.

Girl and/or boy

This moment continues to blow me away every time. It’s so blatant and yet so few people seem to have picked up on it. Which is probably the reason he gets away with it. It all starts at 2:55 when the interviewer asks Michael a question about forgetting his lyrics when he spots a hot girl in the audience. Calum is not down for heteronormative questions it seems, cause he feels the need to add “and/or guy”. Why is that Calum? Do you know something? Then Michael adds “let’s be broad about this”. A little bit further Luke starts looking behind Michael at Ashton and Ashton looks back at Luke. Meanwhile Luke is scratching his neck, almost as if he’s signaling Ashton to save the conversation since Michael seems to be getting stuck. Then Ashton jumps in with “ Michael says a lot of things”. With that he downplays what Michael just said and what he supposedly said that led to the question in the first place. Basically Calum is saying that there is a possibility Michael could be distracted by a hot guy in the audience as well. Implying that he doesn’t (just) like girls. Now maybe they were just trying to be inclusive, but it seems a bit unnecessary if Michael is just into girls. Let’s not forget that it was Calum and not Michael who technically started the whole thing. If you don’t take the things Michael says seriously then maybe at least give this one the benefit of the doubt.

Boyfriend

Finally the last moment I want to share. Michael talking about a boyfriend. This is from a livestream of Michael playing League Of Legends with friends. At 17:33 his friend starts describing to their other friend what to do if your boyfriend doesn’t want to get you a coke. Then Michael comes in and says “that works, it works, I do it on my boyfriend all the time”. Now I don’t know if he forgot this was being recorded, or if he just didn’t care. But he literally said “boyfriend”. The video does not lie, there is no denying he said boyfriend. Now does this sound like a joke? I don’t hear anyone joking or laughing, it wouldn’t even be funny if he meant it as a joke. My best guess is that he got distracted by talking to his friends and playing the game and he momentarily forgot this was being recorded. He doesn’t even seem to realize he said it, since he doesn’t seem to correct it. Now, I don’t know who that boyfriend is, could be Luke, could be someone else. We have no real way to know unless Michael decides to tell us.

Some final words

Of course all of this is speculation and I have no way of knowing with 100% certainty that Michael is not straight unless he decides to share it with us. If Michael is not straight this means that he is closeted or chooses to not discuss his sexuality. Either because people have told him not to or by choice. We should respect this and not try to force a coming out or any other sort of reaction. This can be extremely harmful and damaging. Outing someone on purpose is never alright.

Many of these moment individually could be seen as a joke, but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. One moment is just one moment, but if someone consistently seems to make comments that could be considered as comments about same sex attraction, then maybe you need to start taking them seriously. Sexuality is a thing that can change, maybe Michael considered himself bisexual at some point and identifies as something else now. That doesn’t mean he was lying when he said he was bisexual. Sometimes you identify with one label until you discover something else that fits better. Or you decide not to label it at all. Whatever Michael identifies as is fine, even if it’s straight.

I want to say once more, do no share this post or any speculation regarding his sexuality or love live with Michael or the people around him. This post is made for fandom discussion only. Before someone decides to accuse me of outing him. These are things Michael (or in some cases people who know him well) have decided to say or do, I am simply picking up on the signals. If you still believe Michael is straight after seeing this, that’s fine by me. We don’t have to agree, as long as we can all stay in our lanes and have respect for each other’s opinion everything wil be fine. If anyone decides to come to my inbox with hateful language I will not engage, you will receive a direct block from me. I am however open to a respectful discussion if you have any questions. This post may be updated in the future if I find any other moments that I think are worthy of being shared.

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just woke up and checked the news. Fucking hell

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Trump jury have reached a verdict 🙏

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So my friend who queuing for Louis Tomlinson's show in Luxembourg just sent me this.

If this is not a mood then what is? 😂

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Hey everyone, I unfortunately have to sell my ticket for Louis' show in Antwerp. I just started a new job, so I can't go unfortunately. If someone would like to buy my ticket, I'm selling on ticketswap, but you can also dm me. The ticket is for section 128, row 10, seat 6. I'm asking €62,00 if I sell it to you privately. Which is what I payed for it. Please reblog to help me out!

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Diary of a 5SOS fan: 17-08-2023

Hi there everyone! Hope you're doing good out there. As previously opted I am going to start a 5SOS diary here from my personal perspective as a 5SOS fan. It's just me sharing my thoughts and experience as a fan. These may or may not be universal, they're always mine though.

So very quickly a reintroduction of who I am. I'm Caroline, 32, from The Netherlands. I became a 5SOS fan around early 2020. Just as the pandemic started. So you could say I'm late to the party, but I'm happy to be here though. I was lucky enough to see them live in Amsterdam and Rotterdam on the Take My Hand tour and I'm seeing them again in Amsterdam on October 1st this year.

I'm super excited to see them again, I had soundcheck last year for Amsterdam and I have soundcheck this year as well. Which I'm super stoked about. It was such a fun experience to see them in a slightly more relaxed setting as well. I know it's a lot of money and I'm glad I'm able to afford it. If you are in a position to buy a ticket for soundcheck, I can highly recommend it. If you love 5SOS you will not regret it.

With tour starting I played Self Titled in the car the other day and although it's not my favorite album it does have some bangers on there. But damn, some of these songs really held up terribly lol. I get why everyone loves Mrs All American, English Love Affair and so on. But let's get real for a second: "That minivan that you drive really gets me goin'," "princess getting naked" and let's not forget "she's a good a girl, daddy's favorite". Any artist in 2023 would get canceled for that lol. I get that it's part of the nostalgia and lyrics aside they are all bops. But maybe it's time to be a little less obsessed with these songs after this tour is done? We literally got Heartbreak Girl and Don't Stop in 2023. Gotta say, I will put my life on the line for Voodoo Doll or End up Here lol.

Speaking of End Up Here. That song has some of the best creative 5SOS lyrics ever. "You're telling me how you love that song. About living on a prayer. I'm pretty sure that we're halfway there." That's art people.

For those who may not be as well versed in classic rock, Livin On A Prayer is a song by the band Bon Jovi. Some of the lyrics are "whoa, we're half way there". That's the reference.

Anyway, this is sort of me getting my feet on the ground writing a first diary entry on here. I'll try to talk about other stuff next time. Have a good day!

P.S. if you're interested in following my daily ramblings about not only 5SOS, but also 1D and whatever else is on my brain. Go follow my main @watchyourattitude.

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Hello everyone, not sure how many active followers I still have on here. But I've been wondering what to do on this blog gor a while. I don't have the time or the energy to post masterposts on a regular basis. But I've been thinking about maybe starting some sort of diary on here. Where I occasionally share my experience as a 5SOS when I have the time. I've been wanting to do smt like this for 1D back in like 2014/2015, but never did. And with everyone going solo it's just too fragmented to still do this. But since 5SOS are still kicking I'd love to share some of my experiences. It won't be a blog where I keep up daily with all the news and stuff. I'm not an UA. But I'd like to have some sort of keepsake in the end of what it's like for me as a 5SOS fan. Idk if anyone would be interested in reading that, def let me know if you are. I may still do a masterpost occasionally if I have the time and there's smt I really want to talk about. First priority for me rn is updating my Michael Clifford hair timeline, since that seems to be smt people really like.

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Will you comment on the Peru situation? Twitter is saying a lot of craziness and I just want to hear what's true

As always, I would advise against using Twitter as an informational resource and suggest relying instead on official channels for insight and updates.

At this point, the available facts are that tonight's show was cancelled by the local government because the promoters failed to obtain the permits necessary to hold the show. According to fans that spoke with authorities, this was a known issue weeks ago but the band and their team were not made aware until they were turned away when they arrived at the venue. The decision to cancel the show was completely out of their hands.

There's not much else to report at this point, it's just an unfortunate situation that was poorly handled by the promoters/venue and I feel bad for both the band and the fans that were looking forward to the show. 💙

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In true Ashton fashion, a lot going on at once. But I'm sure this one will be appreciated.

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Since it's been 1 whole year since I saw 5SOS in Rotterdam here's a video of Muke doing The Thing during Want You Back.

Please do not post or share this video without my permission.

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This one's for all the Michael people. Probably the best picture I got from both my shows.

Please do not post or share this picture without my permission.

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Interview with 5SOS' manager, Benjamin Evans.

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I'm done gatekeeping, here's the full ono show.

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European 5SOS fans, there's a copy of the Somewhere New ep for sale on Vinted for only 8 euros. It's not mine, I already have one. But this is really cheap, so I wanted to give you all a heads up. Most of the time these are for sale for a lot more. Link here.

FYI, I'm not responsible if something goes wrong. Just saying.

EDIT: The cd has now been sold. Congrats to whoever bought it. Hope you enjoy it.

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ayo what’s the deal w ashton and margaret

apparently he cheated and she’s selling the ring he got her ( guessing he got her )

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i guess only the stars would know the truth ☆