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Just say you're into bestiality, you freak. It's not that difficult. The fake performative outrage is just stupid. You're no different than the pedos who shriek that they should be allowed to show kindergarteners porn and demonstrate BDSM on them because otherwise it's censorship and you're worse than ten Hitlers.

what? does anyone know what this ask is about? hang on i was gonna delete it but this is so ridiculous i have to post it actually. where did the bestiality accusation even come from this is awesome. TEN hitlers? whoa

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Teacher: I'm sorry, but did you really name your child "redacted"?

Shannon: oh, no, of course not! Ah, but it's a common mistake, due to how the name is pronounced.

Teacher: oh thank goodness! I was worried for a second there, ha ha. Can you tell me their name so I can get our records updated?

Shannon: Sure! It's ▇▇▇▇

Teacher:

Teacher: how are you doing that with your mouth.

Thinking of a name for the cousin polycule child is difficult.

My first thought is Beatrice. It's a name I personally like and it would be very thematic to the story. Maybe child could be named Beatrice, the English pronunciation. BE-A-TRISS, rather than BE-A-TO-RI-CHE. Triss for short.

But that name also has some... baggage. A little bit. so... Maybe not Beatrice outright.

Beatrice's etymology comes from "Viatrix" which means "voyager/traveller". So perhaps they could name the child Viatrix? Or Via? Or heck, just pull a Battler and name it Voyager.

But then, would they choose a Western name for the baby anyway? The only reason they all have Western names is because of their grandpa and I don't think Kinzo would be able to brow beat his grandchildren into continuing that tradition.

行 (iku) means "to go, journey, travel". You could make a good name outta that: Ikuto, Ikuya, Ikuko... Wait. Ok, that Ikuko uses different kanji, so it's not the same name. Though, actually, Ikuya could be good, it's a combination of Iku from Ikuko and ya from Tohya... Ok, ok, now we're cooking with gas.

But also, I'm partial to just calling the child [Child]. Pronounced ▇▇▇▇. Like what better name for the child of Sayo "cat box" Beatrice than ▇▇▇▇.

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Thinking of a name for the cousin polycule child is difficult.

My first thought is Beatrice. It's a name I personally like and it would be very thematic to the story. Maybe child could be named Beatrice, the English pronunciation. BE-A-TRISS, rather than BE-A-TO-RI-CHE. Triss for short.

But that name also has some... baggage. A little bit. so... Maybe not Beatrice outright.

Beatrice's etymology comes from "Viatrix" which means "voyager/traveller". So perhaps they could name the child Viatrix? Or Via? Or heck, just pull a Battler and name it Voyager.

But then, would they choose a Western name for the baby anyway? The only reason they all have Western names is because of their grandpa and I don't think Kinzo would be able to brow beat his grandchildren into continuing that tradition.

行 (iku) means "to go, journey, travel". You could make a good name outta that: Ikuto, Ikuya, Ikuko... Wait. Ok, that Ikuko uses different kanji, so it's not the same name. Though, actually, Ikuya could be good, it's a combination of Iku from Ikuko and ya from Tohya... Ok, ok, now we're cooking with gas.

But also, I'm partial to just calling the child [Child]. Pronounced ▇▇▇▇. Like what better name for the child of Sayo "cat box" Beatrice than ▇▇▇▇.

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how we feeling intermissionists

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Speaking of the discovery in the first twilight of ep 1 though.

I wish I could find that post that talked about how Hideyoshi's "fun uncle" persona is really just a persona and he's not actually a great guy, he prefers to stick to the status quo and will actively turn away from things that make him uncomfortable so he doesn't have to interfere (ie, Rosa abusing Maria). also, in regards to Eva, he really looks nice because he's compared to her, but if you think about it.. is he? That nice? Eva does a lot for his company and is clearly incredibly talented at being a business owner--and yet, Hideyoshi keeps her as his housewife. She has no role in the company and is given no credit.

So that makes me think about the discovery of the bodies in the shed in episode 1. Rudolph, Kyrie, Krauss, Rosa, Gohda, and, most importantly, Shannon. When George hears of Shannon's death, he asks his dad if Shannon is wearing a ring on her finger. Eva and Hideyoshi immediately clock what George is implying--Eva is furious, but Hideyoshi tells her to calm down, and then tells George that Shannon was wearing the ring. He tells George to be happy that Shannon loved him and that whoever gave Shannon that ring must be happy.

So on first reading, it seems like a standard Hideyoshi Good Guy(TM) moment. Unlike his bitch of a wife, he actually CARES about his son and his sons happiness and is willing to support Georges love for a servant. So what if Eva wants to marry him off, George has his pure love and by God, Hideyoshi supports it.

Right?

We don't really see Hideyoshi's reaction to George and Shannon's engagement in other episodes. So I can't help but wonder whether, if Shannon was alive when Hideyoshi found out she was his future daughter-in-law, if he'd be so supportive.

Because, see, in Legend, Shannon is dead. No matter how much dilly dallying they did, their dally dillying is done. As such, there's no reason why Hideyoshi can't support George and Shannon's love. Who cares if he gave the maid a wedding ring--the wedding will never happen. Hideyoshi can fully support George and Shannon's love in episode one because it'll never happen. Eva cares about the principle of the thing, but Hideyoshi doesn't really care about principles; so while George has promised himself to Shannon and pledged to marry her, welp, Shannon's gone, so George is still single and ready to mingle.

If they had survived, I have to wonder how long Hideyoshi and Eva would have waited before setting up George on another omiai.

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By my authority as someone obsessed with yanderes as a trope, the official classification of Higurashi/Umineko yanderes.

Before anything, a definition. To get a yandere you need three (3) traits present at once. First, romantic love only, that's what the "dere" stands for. Two, this love must cause them anguish. In the words of Elle Woods, happy people don't murder. There must be something so unbearable about their situation that they cannot act rationally about it. Last, they need to be 100% committed to the bit. That doesn't just mean they are willing to do violent acts; that means that they would choose to do these acts, regardless of if there was another choice. They must be 100% committed to crashing all the way out. If they crash out for a non romantic love: not a yandere. If they get upset over a lover but don't do anything: not a yandere. If they get upset over a lover, do something about, but are not 100% locked in: not a yandere.

1) Rena Ryuuguu: not a yandere. She started killing for her dad but then got Qanoned. She has yan, but no dere.

2) Shion Sonozaki: borderline case, but no. We do see how her killings were motivated by Satoshi in Meakashi/Watanagashi yes, but he was more of an excuse for her to express her malice. It didn't have to be Satoshi who set her off. I think Rika implied once that there were times where Shion killed Teppei, instead of Keiichi; further, I bet that, if Keiichi had survived after killing Mion in Onikakushi hen, or if Rena had successfully killed Mion in Tsumihiroboshi, then they would have been Shion's targets. And, possibly, after Teppei/Keiichi/Ren, Shion may have moved on to all of Hinamizawa anyway. She's full of yan, but it is separate from her dere.

3) Sayo Yasuda: similar to Shion, she is borderline but ultimately not. You know how the eye of a hurricane is calm and peaceful? Her love for Jessica/George/Battler is the calm and peaceful part of her rage and hatred. The eye is the central part of the hurricane, but it doesn't cause the distruction. IMO, Sayo's trauma and anger was always directed towards the concept of the "Ushiromiya family". Further, she's not all in: she wants to be stopped. She is willing to stop at any excuse. She has yan and she has dere, but they are not intertwined as they must be.

4) Kyrie: I considered saying "no" because she didn't *do* anything, but I think I must fall on the side of "yes". First, lets say it was magic that killed Asumu: we know that magic needs to have "the willpower to do it yourself" in order to work. Kyrie may not have physically done anything, but she had the motive and commitment. However, even if magic doesn't exist: Kyrie still has the willpower and commitment, she just *didn't get a chance to use it*. I think it was only a matter of time before Asumu would have died at Kyrie's hands. Yan and dere are present and intertwined appropriately.

5) Jessica: no, she's too well adjusted. She is going to commit murder for Kanon but she isn't all that jazzed about it. She sees it as a necessary evil, but given the choice, she would have refused. Like Sayo, she is not fully committed. She remains sane, even while doing something as insane as murdering for her boyfriend. She has the dere, but not enough yan.

6) George: I'd say he's a yes. "Wait but he only murdered in the love trial", yeah, but he was locked the fuck in. He didn't just half ass this murder, he specifically chose the person in the way of his love. It's less that he was "forced to kill his mom" and more that he was "given the opportunity he wouldn't usually have". I think he WANTS a mom who wholeheartedly supports him and Shannon, so if Eva suddenly turned a new leaf, then I think he'd be happy to not kill her. But because she won't, he will choose to kill her. He would have gotten rid of her somehow eventually, this is just the way it turned out in this kakera.

7) Bernkastel and Lambdadelta: no. They're violent and insane for their romantic love for each other, but only by human metrics. Given that witches are immortal, they're doing the witch equivalent of a nice stroll through a park or a boat ride on a lake.

8) Erika: no. Her love for Bernkastel doesn't cause her the anguish required. Further, I think you could argue her devotion isn't romantic. She loves Bernkastel, her master. It only sounds sexual/romantic to humans, but Erika and Bernkastel aren't human, so it doesn't feel romantic by human standards. As for Battler, she is a rare case of romantic hatred. Very interesting and rare specimen, but yanderes need romantic *love*, so her romantic hatred doesn't count.

9) Asmodeus and Beelzebub: I see some Philistines say that they are yanderes because they want to kidnap/eat/kill cute boys. No. First, their love is clearly more sexual than romantic. But even if they were romantic towards their victims, they don't have the anguish required.

All in all: 9 nos, 2 yeses. George and Kyrie are the Umineko yanderes. No yanderes in Higurashi.

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I don't think Natsuhi likes Jessica very much.

Let me explain. My parents always taught me and my brother that "love" is different than "like". When you like someone, you want to be around them, you have similar interests, you can communicate with them in mostly positive ways. Like is about a meshing of personalities. Love is deeper--you care for them and you want what's best for them, and you want them to be happy, even at the cost of your own happiness; it can be a cage or it can be a key to unlock the door, or even both. Love is transformation of yourself for another. Now, this isn't to say one is better than the other or even that they're completely separate. They both describe important aspects of human relationships, and they definitely overlap at times. But sometimes you like someone without loving them... Or you love someone without liking them.

And this is an important distinction, especially when it comes to family dynamics. I think it's very easy to love your family, but sometimes, you just don't like them. Because you don't choose your parents or your siblings, it's only luck of the draw that would allow you to have someone who you actually like. And especially for parents and children--I've seen many examples of families where the parents loved their children, but didn't like them. The parents had no interest in their children as individuals, but only cared for their child's title of "daughter" or "son".

I think Natsuhi loves Jessica and Krauss very deeply. But I'm unsure if she actually... Likes them. And I'm not saying she hates them either. But like. If she had not been forced into the marriage, what would Natsuhi and Krauss talk about? What would they bond over? They made the best of their bad situation, but do they actually know each other outside of the status of husband and wife? And Jessica too--of course Natsuhi loves her daughter. But does she like Jessica. Does she like the person Jessica is.

I think Eva and Hideyoshi like George. He's the type of person she would like to hang around, even if he wasn't related to her. I think Rosa could like Maria but her own hang ups make it impossible to fully realize their relationship in a healthy way. Rudolph and Kyrie like Battler, but we unfortunately don't see enough of them with Ange to see if they like her, and Ange is also a bit too young to have that kind of "like" relationship with her parents anyway. Krauss, we don't see enough of him and Jessica interacting to know if he likes her or not.

I think out of all his children, Kinzo only liked Sayo. Krauss, Eva, Rudolph, and Rosa he actively disliked, obviously, but I don't think he liked Beatrice II either. How could he like B2, she wasn't a real person to him. He may have thought he liked her, but really, how much can you like your homunculus? But with Sayo, he took her shooting and set up the riddle epitaph. I think he thought she was clever and he knew she liked the occult and mysteries; he likes people who are clever, the occult, and mysteries.

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I don't think Natsuhi likes Jessica very much.

Let me explain. My parents always taught me and my brother that "love" is different than "like". When you like someone, you want to be around them, you have similar interests, you can communicate with them in mostly positive ways. Like is about a meshing of personalities. Love is deeper--you care for them and you want what's best for them, and you want them to be happy, even at the cost of your own happiness; it can be a cage or it can be a key to unlock the door, or even both. Love is transformation of yourself for another. Now, this isn't to say one is better than the other or even that they're completely separate. They both describe important aspects of human relationships, and they definitely overlap at times. But sometimes you like someone without loving them... Or you love someone without liking them.

And this is an important distinction, especially when it comes to family dynamics. I think it's very easy to love your family, but sometimes, you just don't like them. Because you don't choose your parents or your siblings, it's only luck of the draw that would allow you to have someone who you actually like. And especially for parents and children--I've seen many examples of families where the parents loved their children, but didn't like them. The parents had no interest in their children as individuals, but only cared for their child's title of "daughter" or "son".

I think Natsuhi loves Jessica and Krauss very deeply. But I'm unsure if she actually... Likes them. And I'm not saying she hates them either. But like. If she had not been forced into the marriage, what would Natsuhi and Krauss talk about? What would they bond over? They made the best of their bad situation, but do they actually know each other outside of the status of husband and wife? And Jessica too--of course Natsuhi loves her daughter. But does she like Jessica. Does she like the person Jessica is.

I think Eva and Hideyoshi like George. He's the type of person she would like to hang around, even if he wasn't related to her. I think Rosa could like Maria but her own hang ups make it impossible to fully realize their relationship in a healthy way. Rudolph and Kyrie like Battler, but we unfortunately don't see enough of them with Ange to see if they like her, and Ange is also a bit too young to have that kind of "like" relationship with her parents anyway. Krauss, we don't see enough of him and Jessica interacting to know if he likes her or not.

I think out of all his children, Kinzo only liked Sayo. Krauss, Eva, Rudolph, and Rosa he actively disliked, obviously, but I don't think he liked Beatrice II either. How could he like B2, she wasn't a real person to him. He may have thought he liked her, but really, how much can you like your homunculus? But with Sayo, he took her shooting and set up the riddle epitaph. I think he thought she was clever and he knew she liked the occult and mysteries; he likes people who are clever, the occult, and mysteries.

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Well, you see, age gaps are Bad. The Worst thing ever. And you know the only way to make sure there's no age gap?

That's right. Twincest

I don't think I can access the doc but if you remember: does it say anything about incest? I can see theres a prompt for mommy/daddy and you're not allowed to have coercion/coercive elements (unless they're agreed upon beforehand with the specific rules etc etc) but I don't see any screenshots about specifically incest.

Did they forget to outlaw incest? Does that mean it's not against the rules to have them be sisters as long as I follow all the other prerequisites? Is it like "I can excuse sister fucking but I draw the line at consensually involving men"?

oh god. i dont think i DID see any no incest rules. there was a rule against shipping them with someone significantly older or younger than them ie sevika and isha but not siblings. it's crazy to me that they sent out one million billion rules to make sure their kinktober event was 'ethical and safe for everybody' to the extent that you can't feminize vi, she has to appear exactly as she does in the show, but smth like no incest isn't a rule

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Your disco Elysium post has been stuck in my brain for so long that today, when I fucked up at work, my first thought was this exchange

DHDHDHDHDHH that's good im glad you still have a job

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Pmmm: This is charlotte. As a human, of about 8-12 years old, she was a young girl, far too young and naive for this magical girl business. Her fate is tragic.

Oriko magica: this is Yuuma, a young girl of 11 years old. She's just a child; it is horrifying that she was tricked into magical girlhood so abnormally young.

Magia record: these three 11 year olds mugged kyubey in a dark alley and started a cult

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Uh oh! You’ve encountered this spell that makes you clean up a little bit around you!

Pass this curse on if you LOVE your friends and want them to be WELL

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My thoughts on Gou/Sotsu are... It's ok I didn't dislike it as much as some did but I also didn't like it as much as the original but what really made me like and dislike it was that Onigari-no-ryuuou kills time loopers. Because when I first heard that ONR is the sword that Ouka used to kill Hanyuu so Hanyuu could take on the sins of humanity, I immediately thought I realized what was going to be revealed:

Hanyuu, back in the Meiji era, was also a time looper. Part of her "taking on humanity's sins" was her time looping herself, in order to find the perfect fragment. When she found it--or, more likely, when she gave up her search--she instructed her daughter to use the sword to kill her permanently, this ending the loops. Eua (as she's known) is the fragment of Hanyuu that, like Bernkastel from Rika, broke off as she was cycling through her loops. Perhaps she is the part of Hanyuu that lost her empathy for humanity and began only seeing them as entertainment.

That's why the sword that "seals humanity's sins" can kill time loopers--because the time looping was the process of sealing humanity's sins.

I felt so proud of myself for realizing that. I am very bad at mysteries, despite how I enjoy them, so the fact that I figured out the twist about the ONR just got me chuffed.

...

And then it turns out that's not the twist. In fact, there's no twist. It's not mentioned at all. It's just a big ol coinky dink that the ONR killed Hanyuu and kills time loopers. It's just a deus ex machina contrivance the writers pulled outta their asses.

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got another batch of umineko textposts in me

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"This red truth shit's easy!" – Ushiromiya Battler exactly thirty seconds before eating shit and literally choking on his words