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On this episode, Serin talks about the stars that came from the Battle Shinhwa competition show that aired in 2005. As a surprising amount of 2nd generation K-Pop idols came from this, she will be explaining how they’re all connected and what they went on to do.

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In this episode, OldR reviews Lee Jaewon’s Once Again mini-album. This is a follow-up to our Favorites of 2024/Predictions For 2025 episode, where OldR complained about being unable to get a copy.

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Welcome to Min’s first solo Single Scoops!

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Tracks mentioned in the episode:

Gabby Onme (개비온미) - DOWN

Fairy Mai (페어리마이) - Light Please

Yul2 (율) - HATER

BABO (바보) - CHEEK

Silica Gel (실리카겔) - Tik Tak Tok ft. So!YoON! (소윤)

The Deep (더딥) - Make Up

Yaeji (예지) - booboo

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In this Single Scoop episode, JR and OldR discuss the 2024 K-drama Marry My Husband.

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00:25 The Plot (In Our Own Words)

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1:42 Notable Actors & Idols

4:37 What We Liked

9:00 What We Disliked

20:13 OSTs

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Today is a very special Single Scoop episode—the Sunbaes are discussing their favorite sandwiches! What’s your favorite? Let us know!

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00:25 OldR's Favorite Sandwich

6:52 Min's Favorite Sandwich

15:42 The Sunbae Potluck Plan

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20:56 Serin's Favorite Sandwich

37:33 Wrap-Up & Outro

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JR and her boyfriend, Cas, come together to discuss the 2018 movie Swing Kids–listen in and see what they thought about this tap dancing spectacle!

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Season 5 ends and the Sunbaes go on hiatus not with a bang, but with a series of flubs.

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At the beginning of 2024, we had many expectations for the year, but now it’s time to look at which of our predictions came true and what K-Pop content we enjoyed. After we send off 2024, we discuss what we hope for 2025.

Year End Playlists:

OldR’s 2024 Favourites

Serin’s 2024 Favourites

Min’s 2024 Favourites

JR’s 2024 Favourites

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00:00 Intro & Episode Breakdown

00:42 Our Favorites of 2024 (SOTY, Non-K-Pop Faves, Non-2024 K-Pop)

57:00 K-Drama Talk

1:09:10 How Our Collections Have Grown

1:23:11 Concerts We Went to in 2024

1:25:12 How Our Predictions/Hopes for 2024 Fared

1:29:36 Predictions/Hopes for 2025

1:35:32 Our New Year's Resolution

1:42:02 Wrap-Up & Outro

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Welcome to our yearly roundup of some of the major news and events of 2024. Join us as we highlight some of the biggest groups, celebrity news, and general events in K-Media.

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00:57 Groups That Debuted

1:20 Boy Groups (DXMON, TWS, Big Ocean + Rant, & Speed Run)

7:24 Girl Groups (ILLIT, MEOVV, iNKODE, & Speed Run)

9:43 Subunits

10:02 Redebuts (MADEIN, ARTMS, CLEO)

11:24 Reunions

13:54 Notable Solos

14:37 Big Trends of 2024 (Genres, Fashions, etc.)

19:11 Disbandments

19:24 Entertainments News, Crime & Lawsuits, General News

22:27 The NewJeans Debacle

24:27 Deaths in K-Media

25:45 Wrap-Up & Outro

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The Sunbaes are back for part two of No.Mercy Retrospective! They discuss the final five episodes of the show, where the eliminated trainees are now, as well as their overall thoughts on the show. 

NOTE: OldR had some audio trouble here, it will be fixed going forward.

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00:41 Quick Recap From the Last Episode (Eliminations & Rankings)

1:02 Episode 6 Description, Discussion, & Ranks

4:35 Episode 7 Description, Discussion, & Ranks (Guest Judge Tangents)

11:23 Episode 8 Description, Discussion, & Ranks (IM Added)

14:01 Tangent About #Gun & IM

18:52 Episode 9 Description, Discussion, & Ranks

20:29 Episode 10 Description, Discussion, & Ranks

26:46 Serin Thinks the Finale Should Have Been Livestreamed

28:33 Production Questions & Monsta X Name Talk

32:17 Where Are the Eliminated Trainees Now?

36:21 Episode Wrap-Up

36:48 Outro

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Join the Sunbaes as they dissect the first five episodes of survival show No.Mercy, the show that brought us the beloved group Monsta X! They discuss the run up to the show, give a description of the episodes, and their thoughts on them. Also stay tuned to the end of the episode for an important note on how The KPS Podcast will look in 2025. 

NOTE: Apologies for OldR's audio in this episode and the upcoming part two. It will be fixed for our December releases.

No.Mercy Masterlist

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1:23 Pre-Show Release Info

3:25 Meet the Trainees (Rappers & Vocals)

3:53 Episode 1 Description, Discussion, Ranks, etc.

8:10 Episode 2 Description, Discussion, Ranks, etc.

14:15 Episode 3 Description, Discussion, Ranks, etc.

19:28 Tangent About Us Getting Sick in Relay

20:28 Episode 4 Description, Discussion, Ranks, etc. + "Coach Me"

27:47 Episode 5 Description, Discussion, Ranks, etc. + "Pillow"

31:15 General Talk

34:40 Episode 5 Wrap-Up

35:00 Episode Wrap-Up

35:22 The KPS Podcast 2025 Announcement

36:24 Outro

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The final deep dive of the season is upon us! Join the Sunbaes as they discuss the 1.5 gen boy group: TAKE! As always they talk about the pre-debut days, their heyday, and where the members are now. 

Trigger Warning(for a car accident and death): 24:46—25:18

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00:00 Intro & Episode Breakdown

00:31 Who is TAKE?

1:25 Member Introductions (Dowan, Minhyuk, Seunghee, Sungjae, Seunghyun)

5:38 Pre-Debut Days

10:11 TAKE Officially Debuts ("Baby, Baby" & "Party")

13:31 Member Departure & Concept Change ("Butterfly Grave")

18:36 Continued Success of "Butterfly Grave", Music Camp Incident, & China Promotions

20:38 Second Album Preparation & Company Bankruptcy

21:53 TAKE Goes on Hiatus (Military, Music, & More)

26:42 TAKE Comes Back (2015)

29:01 Sugar Man Reunion & More Music Releases

35:14 Where are the Members Now?

38:26 Legacy

39:57 Wrap-Up & Outro

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Is it raining outside or are our headphones too loud? Find out what our favorite rain songs are on this episode.

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00:29 Intro & Episode Breakdown

1:02 JR's 1st Pick: Shower of Rain (PENTAGON)

2:56 Serin's 1st Pick: Sound of Rain (Younha)

6:42 Min's 1st Pick: Umbrella Calls for Rain (HEIZE)

8:31 OldR's 1st Pick: Rainy Day (Wheesung feat. Taeil (of Block B) & Chungha)

14:36 JR's 2nd Pick: Dancing in the Rain (Rad Museum)

22:13 Serin's 2nd Pick: Walkin' in the Rain (Block B)

25:23 Min's 2nd Pick: Singing in the Rain (JinSoul of LOONA)

27:41 OldR's 2nd Pick: It's Raining (Rain)

31:58 Wrap-Up & Outro

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Today, we’ll be talking about our favorite songs that include samples and replay samples. If you’re interested in hearing about what makes up our favorite songs, you’ll want to tune into this episode.

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On today’s episode, the Sunbaes discuss what K-Pop groups they would like to see return to the stage. They’ll be explaining who these groups were and talk about why they want to see them together again. If you’re missing your favs, you’ll want to tune into this episode!

S3E4: C-Clown - Crowning the Clowns

S4E1: CSJH - Pt. 1

S4E2: CSJH - Pt.2

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00:37 JR's 1st Pick: Pristin

13:14 OldR's 1st Pick: 1TYM

18:00 Min's 1st Pick: 2NE1

25:24 Serin's 1st Pick: Cheon Sang Ji Hee The Grace

34:20 JR's 2nd Pick: C-Clown

42:28 OldR's 2nd Pick: Devil and Angel

47:20 Min's 2nd Pick: GI

51:38 Serin's 2nd Pick: LEO

57:33 Final Thoughts, Wrap-Up, & Outro

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Video games and K-Pop have a long history! Join the Sunbaes as they discuss the different kinds of games that idols and groups have appeared in, and maybe find your new favorite along the way!

S2E12: Baby V.O.X. - Riding Into the Sunset

S4E6: K-Pop Mascots & Characters

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1:15 Games K-Pop Idols/Groups Have Appeared In

3:40 K-Pop Idol Managers & Group Creators

5:32 K-Pop Music Games (DDR, Pump It Up, Just Dance)

8:27 K-Pop Music Games Cont. (Tap Rhythm Games)

12:35 NetMarble, LINE, & BTS-Specific Games

16:05 More Mobile Games (BlackPink, NCT)

17:37 The Sunbaes’ Recommendations (For Language Learning)

19:50 Final Thoughts, Wrap-Up, & Outro

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Not going to speak for everyone on the team, but in my opinion, it's a complicated issue.

Part 1: Time & Location

Part of it is just different generations and people not knowing because they weren't around for it. Outside of a few classics they're vaguely familiar with, a lot of people just stick with music that's recent or big in their social circle. Some folk don't care about the story and just enjoy the music. What I do in the Sunbaes is very unusual and not something I do for every song I download/stream. I was raised listening to the Beach Boys and could tell you all the words to "Help Me, Rhonda", but I have no clue who the members are even though my parents do.

Add in that there are always fans of artists from a different country than them. They might not know the backstory of the artist or even the language they're speaking, but they still like the music. Even if they dive into learning about the artist/song, they probably won't know anything about the greater music industry of that country outside of that artist for a while -- if ever. But someone who lives in that country probably would know more -- I'm saying "probably" because I have a habit of being late to learning about recent hits in the US. I know there are a lot of people like me who miss even the most viral stuff.

Part 2: K-Pop and International Fans

That said, with K-Pop, ignorance of the past seems (to me) to be a more recent phenomenon with international fans. Obviously, time is a factor, but additionally, the discussions around it feel different to me than say 16 years ago.

I think some of the problem has to do with news and media focusing on scandals or tragedies of the time over anything else and that's what's available to English speakers.

For example, since Reply 1997 there's been an interest in 1st gen, but definitely a heightened focus on specific events and groups. The issue with it is that way too many international fans took that drama as a true history instead of as entertainment, and had no reason/interest in delving further.

Every few months sites like Allkpop and Koreaboo rerun articles that further cement this, and then content creators piggyback off of it. Usually, if H.O.T is brought up, it's for either one particular fight Club H.O.T had with DSF (Yellowkies) or the dating rumor with Baby V.O.X. Other 1st gen things that are usually discussed for shock value and are repeated an obnoxious amount of times: Lee Gai, Hwansung's death, Sungjae's death, K'Pop's dating rumor, DSF car burning, and S#ARP's disbandment.

They'll dedicate maybe three sentences to the person and then focus on the issue at hand while ignoring any additional information that would diminish the sensationalism of it. (Why explain Lee Gai's history in the music industry if your narrative is that she blindsided everyone?)

Part 3: Consequences of Not Knowing

While it doesn't seem like a big deal, the problem is that these tend to be geared to audiences who don't have the background or interest in events prior, and thus continues the spiral with each new platform and generation of incoming K-Pop fans.

The other problem is that many international fans assume K-Pop is a newer industry. I saw this with Rain, the Wonder Girls, "Gangnam Style", BTS, etc. New folk come in all the time and many assume that because they were just introduced to it, it must be true for everyone else. They'll learn over time. But some will assume that their favs are the best or did something first, and can't be reasoned with. Doesn't matter if you show them the LA Times article about Hyun Jinyoung, H.O.T winning an award from MTV, Se7en's Chil-Bong in 2003, Rain on the Colbert Report, FIN.K.L/Sechskies in North Korea, Circle/Non-Stop, etc. Whatever the issue is, they're not going to listen and will continue to tell others their idea of history. If someone knowledgeable isn't there to refute it, newer folk will likely think that person knows better and parrot it later on.

Part 4: How to Overcome Misinformation

So, what can be done about this lack of knowledge? Well, in my opinion, it depends on the issue. Generally, sending sources is my go-to because then they can see it for themselves. If someone is spreading the dating rumor about K'Pop, I tell them it's fake and send them a link to our episode that explains the group and breaks down how the rumor started.

The reason why we link our script for every episode is that's where we list our sources, so anyone can check where we got our info from. (That and because we want to make it easier for those who may be hard of hearing or need a visual to process information. We also have a lot of international listeners, so reading the script could be helpful to those who aren't fluent in English or don't have English as their first language. Lots of reasons and it's easy to accommodate since we're already writing everything down, so why not?)

The reason why we never recommend Season 1 is that we got a LOT of stuff wrong. Part of it was the time crunch to release two episodes every month. We switched to doing 6-month seasons so that we have more time to dive in and research better, and that's paid off. The other part of it was that we mainly relied on English sources. I got so burned by Wikipedia, Kpoprofiles, Allkpop, etc when doing research in Season 2, that I completely swore them off for deep dives. If you look at our Master Doc we put together for our December wrap up episodes, you'll sometimes see Allkpop, Koreaboo, etc as sources because they're usually accurate when talking about enlistment dates or new music releases. However, I don't use them when discussing events of the past because I find Korean articles on the same topic tend to have more information that's key for what I need to research. We've used Naver Music (Vibe) since Kpop of the Day, but that was mainly for discography listings that I prefer Melon and Bugs for now. From Season 3 on, I started using Namuwiki/Melon to assist with outlining to get a gist of the topic, then fill it in with Naver News, YouTube videos, etc. So even I find I have to constantly update old work with corrections. We're also slowly re-editing Season 1 for that reason. But not everyone has the time or interest in doing that for every comment or piece of content they've made.

In recent years, there's been a movement in the 1st gen fan community to acquire, restore, and preserve information. Some folk purchase and scan magazine articles from the 90s. Others translate videos and song lyrics. My contribution to this is that I find links to all those sources and put them in one place. I make a document and group them by year and topic to make it easier for others to find. At times, I'll do translations, but I pretty much stick with giving descriptions of what the source is about because I'm not even close to being fluent in Korean. My goal is to cut down on how much time others spend on clutter that comes up in search results.

It's not just been fans doing this either. More and more K-Pop artists have been doing this themselves. In my opinion, Hyun Jinyoung is the best person doing this because he's done a YouTube series explaining his history and he even wrote a book. He goes into detail about his time at SM, the people he was around, etc. This makes him a goldmine of info for those wanting to know about early K-Pop and SM history because he was at the heart of it. But as he still seems to be surprised that he has international fans, I don't think anything relating to him will have English subtitles in the near future.

TLDR

Yeah, it's annoying to see wrong info being spread but most people learn better over time. In my opinion, the best way to change things is to break info down for those who don't know Korean or how to do actual K-Pop research. By lowering the garden walls, it helps those who are open to learning about crucial points in K-Pop's history. There will always be those who either have no interest in it or intentionally want to spread misinformation, but doing the work, it can help those who do want to know the facts.

샵 모음 - S#arp Music Playlist

If any K-pop fans want to try something new and a bit different from newer K-pop songs, please try S#arp.

Trust me when I say they are a lot of fun to listen to (even when you may not know or know the story/ background of S#arp), their music in just one album is like a roler coaster tome it is at least (OMG trying to explaine why I like this group is just 😆😁)

When you love music of a K-pop group, that is no longer active, and not many people know/ like but also want them to become more well known and their music to become popular again. (It's like keeping a secret or keeping something to one's self so no one else can have but at the same time want other people to know and love.)

S#arp is one of my first favourite coed K-pop groups that debuted in the late 90s (ahh, when K-pop was quirky and different, the early years of K-pop (in my opinion, of course, some may agree) and one of many favourite 1st gen kpop groups.

It's probably a minor frustration of mine and or any other lover of old K-pop songs like me, is that you can't find full Albums or even a single song of sed K-pop groups, duoes, soloists and bands on Youtube both in English and Korean (mostly 80s and 90s that I'm talking about).

Even though Youtube made a playlist of S#arps songs, almost all their Albums (4 albums out of 6 and 1 compilation Album) are on there, which is why there is another playlists of S#arp's music that has 2 more of the Albums.

I've watched this video 3 times, and it's one of the reasons I got interested in 90s K-pop in the first place. I wish more people that like K-pop know about the history/ foundations of K-pop (the 90s is when K-pop was pretty much born by Seotaji and Boys).

@anemoiawithatouchofobsession and @kpopsunbaes, do you also find this a bit annoying, or is it just me.