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Spider-Man 3 (2007) dir. Sam Raimi

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Harry Osborn & Peter Parker - wearing the same color jacket

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More meta/observations on Harry’s death:

-When Peter kneels down- you can’t see it very well but I’m sure it’s there- he takes Harry’s right hand in his left one. My feels.

-And MJ is stroking his hair. She does it as he dies, too. Bless you MJ.

-Both Harry and Otto, the two characters who turn to villainy and then redeem themselves, die by the sun. Otto a sinking one and Harry a rising one.

-Peter’s expression breaks my heart, because he doesn’t just look sad, he looks so proud. Just think, that was probably the last thing Harry saw, someone he loved finally being proud of him.

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I am having such a serious case of feelings about the scene where Harry finds Norman on the floor the night after the lab accident that I actually went out and made gifs of it because I haven't seen any on Tumblr.

Look at Harry's body language here. Look how his hand is wrapped all the way around Norman's bicep. Look at the gentle little back rub. He's being so careful and so protective.

And then look at the way Norman reacts. This is not a man who is comfortable with vulnerability, but he lets Harry help him, doesn't try to shake him off; even leans on him. Harry's supporting a lot of his weight in this gif.

Harry keeps hold of Norman until he's safely settled on the couch. And look at his worried face! This kid loves his dad so much.

I think Norman loves him, too. It's not immediately obvious from this scene alone, but I do think it says a lot that Norman allows Harry to more or less pick him up and set him down on the couch. It takes a tremendous amount of instinctive physical trust to let someone maneuver you that way.

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This is an open letter to spideypool/parkner/shippers of really any mlm peter parker ship, but those two are the biggest purveyors of this as far as I’ve seen.

I hope it’s understood that my tone here isn’t personal towards you or your ship but instead the result of months of frustration.

If you’re going to put Harry Osborn in your story as Peter Parker’s abusive ex, as much as I hate that to begin with, can you at least just… not put that in the parksborn tag? Just not use the parksborn tags on most social media and not use the Harry Osborn/Peter Parker tag on ao3?

The people who primarily use those tags are parksborn shippers. We don’t want to see our ship get slandered in our own tags. For another thing, people who enjoy parksborn are also often people who really like Harry, and it’s extra not fun to see him specifically undergo what is always very severe mischaracterization. There are a lot of reasons it generally comes off pretty poorly to write specifically Harry like that, but even just watching your favorite guy be treated like that constantly wouldn’t be very fun, would it?

I realize it’s a pretty pointless battle to try and convince you to not write Harry like that at all, and I really don’t care enough to try, but all I ask is that you simply not put it in our tags. That’s all we as a collective want. If you’re concerned about filtering, use a tag in the additional tags section, just not the relationship tag. You’d be upset if about 10-20% of the content in your ship tag was your fave being mischaracterized and written as an abuser. Don’t put it in the ship tag. The ship tag is where people who like the ship go to read and look at content for the ship.

Please stop putting it in our tag.

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While I understand, thematically speaking, why Harry died at the end of Spider-Man 3, part of me wishes that this didn’t happen. 

I will start with the caveat that Harry is still a grown man, at this point, and is responsible for himself. I will not excuse his actions by infantilizing him. 

That being said, I wish that Harry could have been given the chance to walk away from it – his father’s legacy, his guilt over not being there when Norman died, his feelings of self-inadequacy, etc. and to be happy with his friends.

He didn’t deserve the mistreatment that Norman had subjected him to, and did lash out at the people who actually cared for him more than his own father (Peter and Mary Jane), only to realize what he had done wrong too late.

Norman had already made himself lonely, bitter, and miserable by his own choices in life: stepping over people, getting angry and lashing out when refused his way, and neglecting his own family. That’s his bed. He can lie in it. 

But he should not have stolen Harry’s happiness, not after already taking away so much from him. 

I’d like to think that in some other life, Harry didn’t die by the glider, and instead, he gets to sit on the half-finished building with Peter and Mary Jane, and watch the sun rise after the fight. 

Perhaps it’s a sun rising on a new, better era for him. There is trepidation, of course, but there is also hope.

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harry osborn, mary jane watson, and father issues

spider-man trilogy (2002-2007) dir. sam raimi / get him back, fiona apple / cut, catherine lacey / spider-man novelization, peter david / kirsten dunst and james franco on the set of spider-man (2002) / hypocrates, marina and the diamonds / it lingers for your whole life, katie maria

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harry osborn meme ♡ one movie ⟶ spider-man 3

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harry osborn meme ♡ two colors ⟶ two. pink

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SPIDER-MAN | 2002 dir. Sam Raimi

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harry osborn meme ♡ two colors ⟶ one. green

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spider-man (2002) dir. sam raimi

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what a perfect date would be like.

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For quite a while, I couldn't put my finger on why Harry didn't work for me as a villain in Spider-Man 3.

It wasn't that he lacked prowess in combat, or gadgetry. He possessed both. It wasn't that I saw him as "whiny," or a "crybaby," which I have addressed before.

Rather, it's because I just didn't read Harry as vindictive or cruel. This is especially prevalent in how he is portrayed in the first film (fuck James Franco, but I am making a point) as being lonely, as well as somewhat delicate in his body language. Examples I can think of are his hand curling in toward himself and his shrinking slightly inward when Norman, without asking him beforehand, puts Harry on the spot by asking in front of Peter who the mystery girl is, and Harry practically burrowing into Norman's arms when his father hugs him.

In retrospect, Harry's body language is less confident in general when Norman is in the same room with him. Take from that what you will.

I didn't read Harry as a villain because he came off as too gentle and distressed to be one, but when he teams up with Peter at the end, he is more sure of himself, grasping Peter's hand tightly, and helping him rappel up the side of the building in battle.

Harry's not the same man as his father. Never has been, never will be.

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Thinking of Harry Osborn and that scene in spiderman 3 where he's doing some painting. It just makes me think so hard like damn, thru all the movies we barely see Harry doing something for himself, most of the shit he does is to honor the memory of his dead father, like taking care of Oscorp despite sucking at science and stuff, but not this. This is something he's doing only for himself. Like, it's the closest we get to be of him, to get to know him in a less superficial level, kinda what he is behind that whole façade. I don't know it just. It makes me feel stuff...

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Say, does anybody know what Harry was going to college for? Cuz I tried to Google it and couldn’t really find much and I rewatched the movie but I might’ve gotten distracted by his dad soooo….

Anybody got an idea?

I know he’s not a science kid. Peter had to help him pass it so I’m pretty sure it’s nothing like Math or Science related.

Was Harry an art kid?

I would question if he even went to college but we see him doing some kind of assignment when Peter comes home and Norman is on the phone. So idk.

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comic books hate abuse survivors so so so badly