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thinking about payneland from the perspective of a pining charles having fallen first the night they met in the attic is wild because like
he meets this boy who is incredibly soft and kind to him, comforts him, protects him from being scared as heâs dying
and everythingâs a bit hazy anyway and you know, why not, why not, why not. so charles is all, âi think iâd miss kissing. do you miss kissing? đâ
genius really. except edwin is like, no
so charles is like ok, never mind, no worries, fine. just misjudged it a bit, didnât i. not to worry. still, i really like spending time with you, letâs stay together forever, yeah?
he dedicates himself to being the best friend edwin could possibly ask for. edwin doesnât seem interested in anyone in any way, really. maybe edwinâs just like, above all of those things. or doesnât care for them. that happens! charles gets it! anyway edwinâs only the best person anyone could even imagine spending an afterlife with, so it doesnât much matter
and for thirty years it really doesnât matter, except in tiny moments when charles maybe lets a little too much adoration bleed into the looks he gives edwin, which is fine because edwin is giving him the same type of looks back and it doesnât have to be anything, itâs just how they are. and if he sometimes has to shake himself to keep from staring at edwinâs bare forearms when theyâre relaxing in the office, well. thatâs not for edwin to worry about. it doesnât matter what kind of love it is, charles feels them all for edwin and he knows edwin loves him too
but then they go to port fucking townsend
and suddenly itâs very clear edwin is capable of those types of feelings. of being flustered and lost in daydreams and shy around someone the way you are when youâre interested. edwin is doing all of those things - and itâs not directed at charles. itâs directed at monty. at the cat king
not that he should have presumed. after all edwin can and should go on and like anyone he wants. itâs his right and edwin certainly deserves his chance at happiness, after everything heâs been through. but there had been this tiny, tiny part of charles that had always thought âif edwin ever did have those types of feelings, they would be for meâ
and all of a sudden itâs like. all of charlesâ pining could actually come to fruition, except it wonât because edwin has somehow chosen monty and his astrology books. because some whiskery tosser has gotten his claws into edwin and much as charles postures he wonât dare actually pry them out because he doesnât want to interfere in edwinâs fulfillment
charles is right here, has been right here for three decades - being content for the most part, except in fleeting moments when it got to him. and it would be fine if edwin simply chose someone else - natural even - but the part scrambling charlesâ brain is that it feels like edwin hasnât even considered him. never mind that charles has got an entire elaborate plan for how heâd court edwin if edwin ever gave a singular sign that he welcomed it. but instead edwin has chosen this time to wake up to his feelings and entirely overlook charles as a romantic prospect
charles is not going to be a miserable arse about it. heâs going to be supportive. heâs going to be nice to bloody monty because monty has apparently unearthed feelings in edwin. feelings edwin deserves to have. and if heâs honest, he has to give the lad some credit for managing to find a side of edwin charles has yearned quietly for for three decades in a matter of weeks - just by being forward with edwin in a way charles wouldnât dream of trying
anyway imagine charlesâ utter confusion and disbelief when edwin is all, âactually it is not monty i am in love with at all, but you, charlesâ
and charles is just like, âbut i thought you and him wereâŚ? you said⌠i meanâyou donât even notice me that way!â
âi must assure you i do.â
and then he gets to have a kiss that he has waited for and hardly let himself want properly for thirty years
likeâŚâŚ. PINING CHARLES, MY FRIENDS
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Personal headcanon is Edwin didnât have experience with friendship or romance, so his nearest model for interacting with a lifelong male companion was having a valet. They started off fundamentally misunderstanding their relationship dynamic until it eventually dissolved over the years into real friendship and affection.
Of course Charles follows him everywhere and fetches whatever he needs, thatâs the whole point of having a hired man đ¤¨
Of course they hang out all the time and he helps with whatever Edwin asks for, thatâs just what best mates do đ¤ˇďż˝ďż˝âď¸
How did their system of Charles handing Edwin things without him having to ask for them even begin?
Did it start with Edwin asking for items from Charles's backpack at first and then it morphed into Charles going to retrieve other items for him as well, out of habit?
Was it "Do you mind handing me this and that?" in the beginning and at some point, Charles started to anticipate Edwin's needs so well he just handed him stuff before Edwin could finish his sentence? (Edwin's pleased little smile afterwards was enough of a motivation for Charles to keep trying to predict his needs)
And then they just settled into this new routine with Edwin having to say fewer and fewer words each time, till it arrived at the point that it is today
It really emphasizes how long they've been together - it's truly been thirty years of working alongside one another and caring for each other which made them cooperate on a complete different level
To be loved is to be known
#have you met my man Charles?#heâs not staff#heâs family#Iâd trust him with my life#IF I HAD ONE#payneland#charles rowland#edwin payne#dead boy detectives
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Interesting fashion choices, Monty. Even nailed the plaid inner layer.



Itâs giving Charles in Edwinâs colors.
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Are the sprites wearing Hibiscus flowers?


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Shoutout to A Cornstalk Fiddle by notbecauseofvictories which is actual fic of The Devil Went Down to Georgia song, yet remains one of the most haunting love stories Iâve read.
Extra kudos for writing this amazing slice of Americana in three parts and seeing that it is perfect and completeâŚthen including a separate smut fic for the hell of it.
The mark of a true fanfic hero đŤĄ
crazy how fanfic authors drop the most beautiful and gorgeous pieces of work ever, leaving you speechless and sobbing at three in the morning as you quietly contemplate the masterpiece you just read
and they donât get paid for it they just do it because theyâre having fun and they want to share their joy with you
like I would literally die for all of you fanfic authors out there reblog to swear your allegiance to fanfic authors
#i love u fanfic authors i owe u my life.#fanfic#fanfics#fanfic authors#a cornstalk fiddle#notbecauseofvictories
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I see a lot of speculation that the âInfamous Puppy Debacle of â94â was a matter of Edwin getting jealous over Charlesâs attention.
Consider instead.
Edwin follows that line up with âthe living are MESSY.â So I put it to you.
An alternate perspective on the Infamous Puppy Debacle of â94:
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Be Charles Rowland, circa 1994. Itâs been 5 years since youâve had to think about eating or drinking or sleeping or using the restroom or any sort of bodily function really. Your latest client moved on but he left his sweet little golden retriever behind with no one to care for her.
You could care for her.
You always wanted a dog. Dad never had to say no because you had never asked. You never wanted to bring one around knowing they might get hurt. Thereâs no one to hurt them now.
She comes back to the office. You drag an old sofa in there to give her a bed fit for a queen. You gather up any ball-shaped objects around you arenât particularly attached to. Sheâs partial to the tiny black and white football thatâs enchanted to always roll back to you. A proper Manchester United fan.
Edwin isnât happy of course. But then again he rarely is. The dog will be as good for him as she is for you, surely. He could do with someone to care for him with even half of the kindness he shows others. Even if itâs usually through that layer of ice youâve slowly been chipping away at for want of the friend inside.
Edwinâs budged up nice and cozy with the dog on the couch by that very evening, and youâre feeling quite proud of yourself for your excellent judgement.
An urgent case arises before the sun is up, bothering no one because itâs not like either of you were asleep. If anything it saved you from another devastating loss at the hands of Colonel Mustard in the study with the lead pipe. You tell your new football fan to be a good girl while youâre gone and dip out through the mirror.
It takes longer than expected. Evening is falling again when you and Edwin finally catch your breath in a local park, safe for the moment and free to return to home base. In the whirlwind of the day, you canât help but feel you've forgotten somethingâŚ
A jogger runs by with a dog on a leash. Oh.
Another person with a dog pulls up short. They produce a plastic baggy and stoop to collect their pet's leavings. Oh no.
On a bench across the way, a dog owner consoles their bullpup that dinner will be forthcoming as soon as they get home. The stout little monster ignores them, intent on rendering the log in its mouth into a million strips of fiber.
You share a look with Edwin and book it to the nearest mirror.
Being a ghost has its perks. For one, youâve never been happier to be free of any olfactory senses as you enter the office. There are puddles and plops and any number of messes you try not to look too close at. Edwinâs meticulous case files are in shreds, boxes toppled, tops riddled with tooth marks and slobber.
Your modest but valuable collection of artifacts and other magical ephemera has become a jumbled mass of chew toys on every surface in the room, some being very nearly ingested before rejected.
Perhaps the only edible item in there had been a bag of magic jelly babies, and there were a few piles looking suspiciously sparkly and wet that spoke to where that ended up.
And then thereâs your girl, actively tearing into a couch cushion in search of more food as you take in the carnage. She raises her head to greet you, tongue lolling, tail wagging, and she makes an excited dash across the room. Straight for Edwin.
Before you can so much as reach for him, heâs on his back with a wet squelch. Sheâs ruining his perfect hair and perfect clothes and perfect face with clumsy paws and a drooling a tongue, until he finally remembers he doesnât have to endure this. He sinks into the floor and out of sight, catching your eye as he does so in a look that could freeze a lesser manâs heart but mostly just makes you feel a little guilty.
In the minutes that follow, you calm her down and dig out a magic can of steak and kidney pudding that had always refilled itself since the days of the Blitz. Not that food was much use to ghosts, but Edwin had been in the midst of a world war fixation ever since he learned there was a second one.
The dog looks so happy as you pour it out on the floor, and you fluff her ears hoping to make her as cute as possible as Edwinâs footsteps echo in the hall.
He enters through the front door this time, still dripping in drool with a rip in the shoulder of his fine jacket and one knee sock scrunched low on his ankle with a few deep runs in the yarn. You think the tousled hair suits him at least, though he doesnât look in the mood to receive a compliment, so you wisely refrain from making that particular quip.
Instead you kneel down and turn on the charm, tugging those puppy jowls up in a grin to match your own, going for the sympathy plea. But it seems 50-year-old magical steak and kidney pudding didnât exactly sit well, and she immediately makes the most horrid wrenching noises youâve ever heard before spewing all over the hardwood. She takes a couple interested sniffs and then goes in for seconds, and honestly yeah, maybe you were a little hasty in thinking you could be a dog guy.
It doesnât take long to find the clientâs adult daughter and anonymously drop off the dog sheâs been seeking since it disappeared from her fatherâs flat overnight. Maybe youâd got a bit ahead of yourself on that count too.
It takes ages to get the office back in shape, and Edwin makes you do most of the scrubbing because itâs âgood practiceâ for interacting with physical objects, but mostly it just makes your hands itch. The case files get severely simplified and moved to a vertical filing system, and you feel a bit bad for it but at least thatâs less paperwork for you.
Overall you donât regret your brief foray into pet ownership, but itâs a relief to know thereâs no one relying on you for their every need at all hours of the day. Edwin is attempting to retrieve something from under the couch and holds out a hand, so you cross the room to move a billiards stick about a foot nearer to his reach.
He scoops up whatever it is before you can see, but that probably means itâs none of your business anyway. If he seems a little colder in the days following the dog debacle, you assume itâs lingering annoyance for all the trouble she caused. Fortunately an interesting case sweeps through soon enough, and all is forgiven in the wake of a good mystery.
Edwin has always been the observant one. So itâs no surprise it takes you a few weeks to notice that a new object has taken up a place of honor on his desk. How about that. You look over to where heâs resting on the couch, nose in a book, cushion tucked to his chest with several prominent stitches marring the upholstery. He resolutely does not look back.
You smile to yourself and turn back to the new desk ornament, a familiar articulated wooden hand collected from one case or another awhile back. Only now itâs holding a tiny checkered football marred with punctures by canine teeth.
Huh. Five years in, and you think you know a chap. Maybe that layer of ice didnât have far to go after all.
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And THAT was the infamous puppy debacle of â94.
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Is heâŚyou knowâŚthe BRAWN đ
I know "you are the brawn?" Is just because Charles is a twink but it would be infinitely funnier if Emma clocked Edwin's hell-tempered nature immediately. If that was a thing ghosts could do, or even that only some ghosts could do, then how many of them are under the impression Charles is in over his head- or at the very least more of a Watson than a second Holmes?
Like. Imagine going in to see two detectives but only one of them actually has a chair at the desk? Severe Edwardian dude with sulfur clinging to his aura. He does the talking and seems to make the decisions. His partner occasionally has to remind him to be nice and/or a bit more empathetic.
The other one is perched all pretty ON the desk? And he's visibly slimmer and notably a regular ghost but still claims he's the brawn? Gorgeous 80s guy, turns to his partner for approval almost every time he talks? Big glittery eyes? His scary companion can't quite seem to say no to him?
Emma's a Victorian ghost too so she's probably used to homosexual relationships having barely-there coverups it'd be so fucking funny if she was like "sure yeah the brawn, is that what they're calling it now?"
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I love deep diving for details.
When Simon is discovered in Hell, this is the page Edwin picks up. It has their initials scribbled in the corner.


The illustration is of the demon Bael as it appears in the Dictionnaire Infernal from 1818. His powers include invisibility, popularity, and love, depending on what texts are consulted. All things that troubled Simon in life.
The text on this page is from page 140 of the Demonlogica Sacra, A Treatise of Satanâs Temptations in Three Parts from 1677:
Sometimes Satan doth covertly hint his Mind, and send it along with the suggestion; sometimes our condition will enough declare it, and there is no case but it will afford something of disâŁcovery if seriously pondered.
I wonder how he came by the book his brother owned. I wonder why he owned it in the first place.
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âOver 2 million hours in this postâŚnever once have I seen an error like this.â
2,000,000 hours / 24 hours per day = 83,333 ish days
83,333 days / 365 days per year = 228 ish years
The Night Nurse may be an âimmortal trans-dimensional beingâ, but sheâs apparently only been in her particular position for a couple centuries.
Edwin went to Hell halfway into her career. Sheâs been doing the job twice as long as heâs been running from it.

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Just gonna recommend the Case of the Curious Polycule collection of fics by @petvampire so you can enjoy the best of all worlds!
Okay I think I figured it out !!
Visually, which means edits, Fanart and the episodes themselves, everything that shows the vibe they share and the way they look at each other, I'm into Charles x Edwin.
Literally (or mentally), which means fanfictions and Headcanons that develops the way they think about each other and the mental acceptance that they care, Cat King x Edwin is more interesting to me.
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Oh my gosh, the clear shot of their âlicenseââŚthe implication that itâs just a gimmick by a comic book company đđđ
Headcannon is they read these comics together in the early days, and the company published a little competition to drum up readership.
If you (and a friend of course, gotta buy two copies of this comic per team) can solve the mystery, youâve proven yourself as proper detectives! Mail in your answers, and the winners receive a lifetime subscription and their very own âagency licenseâ.
Of course they solve it and get the gimmick license and theyâre all proud. But thatâs what sets them off thinking hey, maybe they could really do this. What if they became real detectives? They dug up the details of their own deaths, how many other ghosts need someone to do the same for them?
Their door says âestablished 1990.â This is absolutely how it all came together.





Dead Boy Detectives details via Zack Ogle & Cheech Manohar on Instagram
#dead boy detectives#dbda behind the scenes#edwin payne#dbda#dead boy detectives netflix#charles rowland#dead boy detective agency
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THIS, but.
Edwin is new to understanding his feelings for Charles in the context of romance. Until now heâs believed his affection was about companionship, and any other observations he had about Charles were just objective facts.
I can definitely see him not getting jealous so much as just annoyed that people were pointing out the âobvious.â
Of course everyone falls for Charles, Charles is gorgeous. Oh look, another person swooning over Charles, yes we know, he is a complete dream, back to the case please. Do stop getting lost in Charlesâs eyes, I understand they are the most beautiful shade of brown and glisten like the sweetest honey in this lamplight, but I am trying to ask about your whereabouts on July the 14th.
In short, he has a bad case of the pre-awakening girliesâ âeveryone checks out other women, women are beautifulâ mindset. But itâs always been about Charles.
As much as I love (and understand) everyone being wild about Edwin in Port Townsend, you can't tell me that clients don't fall in love with Charles left and right, too.
Have you seen the boy?
The softest, warmest brown eyes you could imagine, surrounded by the longest lashes. A nose so regal it would make Greek sculptors cry with joy. Cheekbones so sharp you could cut a diamond on them. Curls you want to card your fingers through and never stop again. A smile so brillant it could replace the sun.
I'm sure there's an army of people just swooning over Charles back in England.
And Edwin? Edwin would have hated that ever since it happened the first time, but now he knows why it hurts that much when someone calls Charles babe or luv or darling and I am pretty sure that that would make it so much worse.
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Charles reacting to Edwinâs insufferable flirting now that heâs getting comfortable with himself: Look at you, getting fresh with a rugby lad. You kiss one bloke and now you think you're smooth as :P
Edwin: One that you know of. Itâs a growing list, do you want to get on it?
Charles:

#dbda#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#payneland#dead boy detectives netflix#Edwinâs about to be everyoneâs problem
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EDWIN, defending his relationship with a centuries-old trickster entity, who is sometimes a literal cat, to his partner of 30 years:
Why canât you just accept our love? (His lip trembles) Itâs because heâs AMERICAN, isnât it! (He runs away crying)
#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#the cat king#dbda#payneland forever#catwin for fun#this really happened your honor#s2 script LEAKED
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