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yeah sure--had to be the KOREAN CIA couldn’t have been MKUltra Paperclipping AMERICAN CIA could it now? Check it out: Lorentzen and Browder schmoozing, and tell me the WACL money laundering project ever stopped.

Gifts of Deceit – Chapter 13, The Menace

▲ During the Korean War, a Korean carries his aged father across the icy Han River at Chungju, Korea in their flight to the South to escape the onrushing Communist Forces.

Date: January 14, 1951. Photo Credit: US Army by Cpl. J.J. McGinty

Gifts of Deceit (1980) by Robert B. Boettcher  pages 325-350

Chapter 13 – The Menace

America was an ideal place for Park, Moon, and Tongsun to operate. As an ally, South Korea was not suspected of subversion. The U.S. government was watching the Soviet KGB, not the Korean CIA. All three men were able to manipulate at will.

American institutions are vulnerable to such people. In an open society such as this, any view can be expressed. If it sounds convincing, people will believe it. The halls of Congress are open to foreign government officials, businessmen, or evangelists from whatever country. If the country was Korea, they were always welcome because of the long friendship with the United States. Throughout this country, the agents of the Korean influence campaign could come and go as they pleased. Some people believed what they said. Some accepted money from them. Some were intimidated by them. Some became controlled by them.

President Park’s KCIA forced unsubmissive Koreans out of business in the United States. His political party extorted money for him from American businessmen in Korea. Money was offered to get Park’s picture on the front page of Time or Newsweek. The KCIA’s written plans targeted about a hundred American leaders for “manipulation” or “co-opting.” Agents such as Moon and Tongsun bribed Congressmen or prepared Americans to die for Korea. It was a great boondoggle for Moon and Tongsun. In the land of big money and big power, they made both.

President Park benefited less from the influence campaign than did Tongsun and Moon. That is ironic, since the objective of the Blue House planning meetings in 1970 was to get more American support for the R.O.K. government. At that time, Park and his advisers were overreacting to changes in U.S. policy, as usual. Nixon and Kissinger were absolutely determined to protect South Korea from another war with the North. Park knew that. He had nothing to worry about on that score, if that was his main concern.

There had to be another reason for Park’s extreme anxiety. It can be seen in the thrust of his personal political maneuvers. In 1969 he railroaded a change in the constitution to allow him to run for another term. After he was reelected, Park declared martial law for several months. Then, in 1972, he dumped the old constitution and replaced it with a new one giving him unlimited powers. Under the Yushin system, he can remain President as long as he wishes without being bothered by elections.

The influence campaign was designed to get maximum American support to help keep Park Chung Hee in power.

American Presidents did support Park’s government, but not as a result of the influence campaign. They did it for the traditional reason: to ensure stability for U.S. strategic interests. The many visits of Congressmen to Korea, however, yielded Park some benefits. In Korea, the regime’s propaganda created public impressions that the Americans were with him all the way. In the United States, some of the opposition in Congress to the Carter troop withdrawal plan undoubtedly could be traced to the Park regime’s expert orchestration of congressional visits in the past.

The failures of the influence campaign outweigh the successes, though. The campaign gained Park nothing he could not have gotten without all the skulduggery. His country was one that Americans were quite willing to support under normal circumstances. Exposing the campaign in 1976 brought two years of the most strained relations the two allies ever had. As for military aid, the campaign seems not to have had a positive effect during its heyday. Except in 1974 and 1976, Congress did not even make a separate decision on how much aid Korea would get. That was done by the State Department and the Pentagon after Congress had approved an overall amount for all countries together, which included the extra aid Nixon had promised the Koreans. Each year Congress had cut the overall figure, but this was not aimed at Korea, though Korea got less than planned as a result. Congress just wanted to trim military aid in general. The lobbying and payoffs had been virtually irrelevant.

In 1974, when Congress did vote on aid for Korea separately, Park lost. Fraser’s amendment denied $93 million for the most humiliating reason: suppression of human rights. Phase two of the influence campaign—enhancing Park’s image in the United States—clearly had not succeeded.

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Connecting the Paperclip diaspora and WACL to present day shananigans, 2 days before the removal of this livechat channel due to too much truth

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Announcing: Federation of Families United Against Child Support Payments

She approached the podium in a beautiful evening gown and with charm, elegance and dignity

Yes that posting brought out my “cain” feelings about In Jin Moon getting the reward of Parent of the year.  Nepotism at it’s best!

The posting should be rewritten now something like this

She approached the podium in a beautiful evening gown  hiding her baby bump and  was sneaky,shameless full of lies.     She recalls Allistar Farrant and the illicit affair they had causing his Korean wife to divorce him leaving 5 kids fatherless.  She fondly says as mother of the year that Ben Lorentson was much better in bed than Allistar Farrent and younger to……………As mother of the year she was successful in bringing another mother Patricia Lorentson divorced leaving 2 more kids fatherless……..

https://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Gavin/Gavin-100730.htm

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FFWPU Motto

Child Support is for Dummies

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How to always be wrong

Do whatever brings you greatest benefit. Ignore what is best for your own children. Criticize their parents publicly. Then brag about your petty self.

Bill Browder is the consummate Clinton insider. If Hillary's uranium ratlines may melt down and no more kickbacks. He might even have to give back the graft he stole when the USSR crumbled. Hey Tat--gonna tell Bill Hillary is hilarious? Oh, never mind, that was another episode before the Biden debacle. Browder will probably make right on his theft from the violated Russian republic about the time old Moonies are ever noticed by the Oh So Very True Family. Browder might as well be part of the “True Family”--now that he has stolen from Russia he wants to make sure nobody else does!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155258466631218&set=ecnf.100007953638148&type=3&theater

You just can't make this stuff up. But you can find out more about Bill Browder from  intrepid reporter and metadata analyst par excellence  GW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-S3ZQMeKok

While we’re at it, here's something very odd info:

  https://spitfirelist.com/news/the-secret-treaty-of-fort-hunt/comment-page-1/

https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_M%C3%BCller

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2017-robert-mueller-runner-up/

https://weaponsandwarfare.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/10611930377262910500.jpg https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rod+rosenstein&t=ffab&atb=v133-7__&ia=images&iax=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fsi.wsj.net%2Fpublic%2Fresources%2Fimages%2FBN-TJ325_2Z2P7_OR_20170509195113.jpg%3Fwidth%3D620%26height%3D450

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“I knew in my heart at that moment, no matter if the whole world denied him, I would follow even unto death.’ “

Unto death or until the money ran out, whichever came first.

On the road to Damascus

‘Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.’     2 Corinthians 11:14-15   wiotm

Is it appropriate for the adherents of someone*, whose authority** rests solely upon a self professed encounter*** with Jesus Christ, to disparage someone else’s professed encounter**** with Jesus Christ?   Can one person’s experience necessarily be determined to be superior to the other person’s experience?

___________________________________                                                                                       Notes:                                                                                                    *Paul (also known as 'Saul of Tarsus’).  During Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry, Paul was persecuting, imprisoning, and killing Jews who had trusted Jesus as their Messiah (Acts 8:1-4; Acts 26:9-11; Galatians 1:13; 1 Timothy 1:13).  Later Paul started his own cult, preaching his own 'mystery’ gospel (salvation by grace) which differs substantially from the Gospel of Jesus. (The 'revelation of the mystery'  is referred to in Romans 16:25; Galatians 1:11-18; Ephesians 3:1-11; Colossians 1:25-26. Peter, James, and John never used the expression 'the revelation of the mystery’ in their epistles.) The vast majority of believers belong to his cult which is now commonly referred to as the Christian church.

**There is evidence in Paul’s letters to the Corinthians that others did not accept his apostleship.  This may have included the Twelve.  He writes: 'Am I not an apostle?  Have I not seen Jesus our Lord?  If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord’ (I Corinthians 9:1,2).   'Indeed, I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these very chiefest apostles. Even if I am unskilled in speaking, I am not so in knowledge; …As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced …And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.’ (2 Corinthians 11:1-15 ESV)    Who are the 'others’ to whom Paul is not an apostle?  Is it not most likely that those whom he designates 'the other apostles’, 'false apostles’ and 'these very chiefest apostles’ are Cephas (Peter), and the brothers of the Lord, with whom he immediately continues to compare his practices?  At the very least, they would be identified with the other disciples at Corinth who, under the influence of Peter, James and the Twelve, were challenging Paul’s claim to be an apostle.

*** Paul’s encounter with Jesus:   'As I was on my way and drew near to Damascus, about noon a great light from heaven suddenly shone around me. And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” And I answered, “Who are you, Lord?"  And he said to me, "I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting.” Now those who were with me saw the light but did not understand the voice of the one who was speaking to me. And I said, “What shall I do, Lord?"  And the Lord said to me, "Rise, and go into Damascus, and there you will be told all that is appointed for you to do."  And since I could not see because of the brightness of that light, I was led by the hand by those who were with me, and came into Damascus.’ (Act 22:6-11 ESV)

 ****  Philip Burley’s encounter with Jesus:  ’I was in a place not unlike heaven in the spirit world. Jesus appeared in the distance and began approaching me. At one point he stopped and gave me an ancient salutation. As he did so, a voice spoke and all around me the atmosphere rumbled with the sound. It was like the voice of God and it said, "This is Jesus, the Christ."  Another man dressed in Oriental garb appeared beside Jesus - it was Father. They then became one and Father went inside of Jesus, and Jesus’ face became magnificently radiant as he continued to walk towards me…From then on True Father began to appear. And since I was alone, he came to guide me in the big and little things of life. There was no way I could doubt, no way I could turn away…"   Face to Face by Mr. Philip K. Burley Experiences with Jesus     http://www.euro-tongil.org/swedish/english/testim_burley.htm

Doris [Walden] Orme's encounter with Jesus:     'Jesus appeared to me day and night for a period of forty days, telling me many wonderful things that would come on earth in the years ahead. Often when Jesus appeared to me there was an Oriental man with him; they seemed absolutely one in heart. Later, when I realized that Father (Sun Myung Moon) was on earth, I knew that this man I had seen with Jesus was Father… I finally got down on my knees, locked myself in my bedroom and cried out to God, "I don’t want to sin against You. Please tell me is this man from Korea Your blessed Son?”… I cried and cried, and all of a sudden the room became electrified with the power of God. From spirit world I heard what seemed like thousands of voices singing and shouting, “And he is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and he will reign forever and ever! Sun Myung Moon, Sun Myung Moon, the Holy One of Israel! Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah!”   I knew in my heart at that moment, no matter if the whole world denied him, I would follow even unto death.’   How God and Jesus Led Me to Father 1959-1960 By Mrs. Doris [Orme]      http://www.euro-tongil.org/swedish/english/edoris.htm

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Thing about sex with angels, it’s lots of fun but you don’t get any babies out of it. And no money!

Sex with angels

If you grew up in the Unification Church (like I did), I don’t think it’s really possible to appreciate just how ridiculous an assertion our church makes when it claims that it has good evidence to believe that human beings can have sex with angels. In the 1996 version of the Divine Principle, the evidence put forward is that (a) “there are reported cases of earthly people leading a married life with spirits”, (b) Genesis contains several accounts of angels interacting physically with human beings, and © the Fall story can be interpreted as a sexual story. (Arguments A and B are on page 63 of the 1996 version of the DP; Argument C is covered throughout Chapter 2.)

Argument A holds no power because the DP doesn’t actually cite any of these supposed cases, or show how these cases are not simply unfounded assertions. Arguments B and C are weak because Genesis is not a reliable historical document.    

If you’re going to argue something as bold as the notion that human beings and angels can have sex, you need strong evidence. As Carl Sagan famously said, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

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not to mention, Nazi vril. UPF is vril, exactly.

To, was SMM a Korea shaman? Actually he was a Korean shaman. He became known as the king of Korean shamanism. He brought Korean shamanism to the world level through his Unification Church. Korean shamanism is ancient, low/form level, spirit world. Christianity is life level spirit world. Much of the insanity in our current world is driven by UC Korean shamanism.

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Foiled again

" 'On Monday, President Trump tweeted birthday wishes to the Air Force and the CIA. Both became official organizations 70 years ago on September 18, 1947, with the implementation of the National Security Act of 1947.' September 18, 1947 CIA "Birthday" September 18, 1974 Rev Moon 'Rebirthday' at MSG. The CIA loves to play with numbers and dates. The UC was into numbers and dates...... 18 is an Ace and a Eight, components of the Dead Man's Hand of Aces and Eights."

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difficultly refutable

Observation and the scientific method conclude that the only begotten daughter cannot be the true mother of the ideal family if she detests her eldest living son and her youngest living son detests her and if they all detest their father and if their sister detests all women married by her father to the degree of seducing their mates, even if she's only had time to do it twice.

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Maybe people who consider horrific Podesta “art” and their bizarre emails see  them as objective evidence, however circumstantial.  That evidence, is NEVER   addressed.

Will we ever find out what the FBI saw on weiner’s computer? Stay tuned.

To Understand Pizzagate, It Helps to Understand Cults

December 14, 2016

New York Magazine

By Jesse Singal

How could anyone possibly believe a conspiracy theory as crazy as Pizzagate? It’s a question many people have asked since the meme first popped up about a month ago. Pizzagate, if you haven’t heard, is a bizarre and far-flung conspiracy stitched together from very flimsy evidence — here’s a written explainer and here’s one from the internet-culture podcast Reply All — but the short version is that adherents believe Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and other big names in the Democratic Party have been running a child-sex-trafficking ring, and that one of the epicenters of that ring is the basement of Comet Ping Pong, a pizza place and all-ages music venue in a wealthy and leafy part of northwest Washington, D.C., as well as various other businesses (it doesn’t even have a basement).

The rumor began right before the election, and has been helped along greatly by 4chan, Reddit, and a boatload of alt-right outlets and personalities serving up tendentious “evidence” to a ravenous group of trolls and paranoid, suggestible internet sleuths. Since the rumor went viral, the businesses “implicated” have faced a wave of online and phone threats and creepy in-person protests from Pizzagate believers. Things came to a disturbing head December 4, when 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of North Carolina walked into Comet with an assault rifle and a .38 in an attempt to “investigate” Pizzagate, eventually firing the rifle inside the establishment. No one was hurt and he eventually surrendered to police, but it was a terrifying reminder of the power of fake news and conspiracy theories.

How does someone like Welch fall into a fake-news vortex, eventually coming to believe things that most people would reject as too crazy to be true? There’s been a lot of talk lately about the widespread decline in trust in institutions like political parties and the media, and surely that’s part of it. But in terms of the social and psychological dynamics underpinning this type of depressing personal tailspin, it’s also useful to look into some research about how people join cults and become violent religious extremists. That’s not to say coming to believe in a theory like Pizzagate is the same as uprooting one’s life to join a fringe movement, of course, but there are surprising similarities — particularly when it comes to how people find meaning in strange beliefs and are gradually socialized into believing them.

So let’s run down some of what we know about cults and terror groups, and then cycle back to Pizzagate to explain the connections. Marion Goldman, a sociologist at the University of Oregon who studies new religious movements (researchers try to stay away from the word cult, since the boundary line between cult and religion is fuzzier than most people think), told Science of Us that one of the “truisms” of her field is that “anybody can believe anything at any time.” That is, there’s a tendency to think that only “crazy” people can believe far-fetched things, but belief is actually a lot more complicated than that: Otherwise normal people, who have no clinical indicators of any sort of mental distress or cognitive impairment, can be induced, fairly easily under the right circumstances, to embrace truly bizarre and sometimes dangerous beliefs.

Read full story here:

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/12/to-understand-pizzagate-it-helps-to-understand-cults.html

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the real conspiracy theory

In fact, Wikileaks material about Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile got the two Clinton operatives unceremoniously sacked. Yet there are those who would prefer not even to look at the Podesta Wikileaks emails. So do they really think somebody sat around late at night making up this weird s*** to mix it in with Podesta’s emails? Quite a complicated theory, kinda doesn’t meet Occam’s razor. Why did James Comey go to San Diego to bust pedophiles the second weekend of November? Poor guy. It’s pretty darned weird. Who can give the green light for a genuine investigation?

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oh my.....can you imagine a Moon family member begging the public for forgiveness ? seems kind of unlikely......but karma is karma and only time will tell.....

Power broker told the South Korean President what to do

President Park Geun-hye, left. The power broker Choi Sun-sil, right, received a detailed presidential report almost daily, and led meetings on governance.

Full story:  the hankyoreh October 26, 2016

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What nonsense. Just shows, it takes all kinds. Most of the 2nd gens left. They are highly sensitive and successful humans. Tell us about yourself, “anonymous”--what high aptitude and accomplishment puts you in a position to judge a bunch of people you have never met? Oh never mind. Your own mediocrity is showing: the measure you give is the measure you get. (sad, but true!)

Of cause second generation are not the brightest around. Think about it... they have been indoctrinated since birth to believe the nonsense of Moon being the Messiah and his family have no original sin and carry the true blood linage of God. That in it's self tells us that having critical thinking analyzing being informed taking a step back looking at their faith deeply to better understand it was really not encourage. Worshipping Moon and his family trumped God in many ways:( sad but true!

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Some Things Have No Explanation

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Light Lifted Upon Golden Door

“Give me your tired, your poor

Your huddled masses yearning to breath free

The restless refuse of your teeming shore....”

They missed the teletubbies, Mouseketeers and MTV

They have no retirement, no health coverage, sometimes homeless

Let them bounce! saith the Lord

History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as kitsch. --Milos Kundera