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george raymond richard martin: this is bran stark. he is seven and he loves climbing. he is now crippled thanks to jaime lannister and being pushed in the wrong direction by bloodraven.

asoiaf fandom: ohhhhh so he's a psychopath rapist and is going to be the ultimate villain and is worse than child serial killers. he's just using theon and is not emotionally invested in him at all. also he'll have to stay in his cave forever so he doesn't oppose my faves (dany and jon). i hope he rolls off a cliff!

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i made this point almost an year ago and I stand by it

Indis and Catelyn Stark are only very similar in how fandom at large insists to reduce their WHOLE CHARACTERS to their utter failure in being good stepmothers to their faves (Feanor and Jon Snow), when they have no fucking business or interest in being anyone’s stepmother in the first place

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i always see the most vile sexist trash about catelyn—calling her more irredeemable than jaime, not being nurturing enough, not being maternal enough or whatever else your misogynistic asses can grasp at.

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Would you agree that Catelyn Stark is one of the most selfish and impulsive characters?

No.

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I'm sorry if this is kind of a stupid question, but what are the common ways that fandoms hate on women? Are anime fandoms also prone to such hatred towards women?

ok so one of the ways that fandoms hated women when I first started this blog is that frequently there was misogyny in the tags of canon female love interests.

here's an example: Skylar white from breaking bad was often hated in the fandom for opposing her criminal and abusive husband walter white even though he straight up rapes her in the first season when shes pregnant.

here's an article that has links to other articles https://www.looper.com/190240/the-reason-skyler-white-was-the-most-hated-character-on-breaking-bad/

so ok you might say well that's from a much older show but she was on our profile pic for years.

then there's misogynoir with a franchise that started much earlier (the sixties) but really came to a head in 2008-9

that's Uhura and her AOS romance with Spock. many sp1rk shippers were angry that their ship wasn't canonized in the reboot and took it out on Zoe and JJ Abrams for writing her as a love interest.

The problem is that Uhura's role in the original series was hardly ever what you'd call important to the plot. by elevating her to a love interest many started to hate her for existing as an obstacle between sp1rk.

Then there's Iris West-Allen in the show the flash played by Candice patton. in the tv show Iris was racebent from a redheaded white woman to a Black woman. this garnered her more misogynoir than even Uhura because at the very least Uhura had existed as a black woman since the sixties in the franchise.

So if you're not familiar with comics Iris west is the one true love of Barry Allen. White comic fans weren't ready to see a black woman loved dearly like Iris would be.

a more recent example is Yennefer from the witcher https://www.thegamer.com/the-witcher-yennefer-worst-things-done/

Now I haven't read the whole article but I would like to point out that in the beginning of this article they call Yen an antiheroine. which if you're familiar with antiheroes they're often complex morally and this is even more true with someone like Yen who was again racebent in the show being played by a biracial actress in the tv adaptation.

Idk about you but I've often seen that people want complicated women, women that are as well written as male leads. the thing is that with yen we get a woman of color who yields immense power but that is actually just in search of a family.

some people in the fandom (particularly white people) were insulted by a woman who just wanted a family. the thing is tho that for woc who throughout the last five hundred years of genocide on various peoples by white imperialists the matter of fertility and motherhood is fraught with the fact that many woc have been sterilized, had their children taken away and killed or just never seen again. I even saw lots of so called intersectional feminist white people say they hated her storyline and her quest to have a baby.

I hope that clarifies it for you. there's many different types of misogyny (misogynoir, racialized misogyny) and the hate against them is often hard to parse without looking at the shipping trends of fandom. here's another example: in order to understand why a woman is despised in fandom you first have to see if she stands in the way of a white dudeslash ship (Uhura in AOS, maria deluca in RNM, Yennefer in the witcher).

There's lots of ways that fandom displays their sexism.

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