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The four horsemen of overhated by the fandom.

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Guys have you seen my wife?

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Eric Matthews as a pig and Alison Kerry as a ferret

I don't have really strong reasons for these. Beyond Cop>Pig thing. Also Danny would be fluffy like a boar, eric also gets fluffy in saw IV in this version i imagine. Alison is a ferret because she seems pretty agile and cunning to me. Also her and Steven are besties and grew up around eachother i don't make tge rules.

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It's very funny to me when people criticise Betsy Russell for her acting when Costas is pulling this face for 90% percent of the franchise for no reason

"Oh she's trying too hard to look pretty"

Hoffman mogging somewhere around the corner:

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She doesn't have a mean bone in her body i swear

Why do so many people think that Jill Tuck is mean and evil? Guys she owns a rehab clinic, she’s a VERY caring person, she cared deeply for all of her patients. Her values clashed with John’s, she believed that people could be rehabilitated and John didn’t, he thought people could only appreciate their lives after almost experiencing death.

And people like to bring up Jill trying to kill Hoffman in the RBT as being evidence for her being evil, but John literally TOLD her to test Hoffman! She just tried to make it so that he would surely die because of the fact that he blackmailed poor Amanda, which is what basically led to her and John getting killed. She didn’t seem happy to be putting Hoffman in the RBT either! She was obviously upset! She’s a good person, she’s not an antagonist, she was doing what she thought was right and she was upset.

Hoffman was killing innocent people, he very much deserved to die, IDGAF. Hes alright but I hate how much he gets glazed and babied in this fucking fandom while Jill gets villainized and hated on

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This basically leads into my general opinion of saw would be so much better as a TV series rather than a movie franchise. Some characters really needed more fleshing out. Hoffman is... I wouldn't say he's written TERRIBLY but the writers are playing ping pong with him. It's as though they can't decide what to do with him. I don't even care that Angie shit is cliche, i am not even that upset she's not a character. It's just... Kinda hollow when we don't get ANY insight to how their relationship was beyond his grief over loosing her.

My issue is that people, in my opinion, like Hoffman for what he could have been, rather than what he is, and that's valid. What's not valid is pretending that he *is* super cool. While not giving this same consideration to Jill. Jill *is* well written and she has as much if not more plot and overall theme significance than Hoffman. I am just super fucking bummed that people give more thought to fucking ADAM STANHIGHT who died in the first movie than the woman who was a secondary main character in at least three movies and who ACTUALLY HAS PLOT SIGNIFICANCE. AND I LOVE ADAM!! I just feel like im screaming into the void every time i mention Jill

People talking about Jill: this IRRITATING BITCH tried to kill Mark for NO REASON. Why didn't she turn her serial killer ex husband in when she CLEARLY WASN'T THREATENED BY A POLICEMAN WORKING RIGHT THERE. She is so annoying.

People talking about Hoffman: ah yes, he's so complex. He might have done some things wrong, but he was blackmailed. Yes even after john died yes. He even told Jill it was the last game and he would stop!! He didn't, but it's besides the point. He's just so lonely and complex and interesting. Also Saw 3D is not canon because i said so

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how hoffman envisioned rigg's game was gonna go down

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People talking about Jill: this IRRITATING BITCH tried to kill Mark for NO REASON. Why didn't she turn her serial killer ex husband in when she CLEARLY WASN'T THREATENED BY A POLICEMAN WORKING RIGHT THERE. She is so annoying.

People talking about Hoffman: ah yes, he's so complex. He might have done some things wrong, but he was blackmailed. Yes even after john died yes. He even told Jill it was the last game and he would stop!! He didn't, but it's besides the point. He's just so lonely and complex and interesting. Also Saw 3D is not canon because i said so

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Thirst clenched

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Dragged a friend into Saw and they're very sad about lack of Tapp and sing content. We should do better gang

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Jigsaw was Peak but you people aren't ready for this conversation

Do you think there would be a subsection of BDSM in the saw universe where people would get off on being in a trap? there would be discourse over it if so

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I would pay actual money if someone made me a Jill tuck edit to "Now that you're gone" by raconteurs

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Omg they're so kawaii

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