pompompoofy

[pompompoofy]

*realizes all the victims of SA are men*

Vivziepop does not care about SA.

TW for SA obviously

There are five instances of a Vivziepop's characters being put into sexually exploitive situations. Situations where their consent is violated and their assault isn't taken seriously, either within the show or behind the scenes by the creators.

1. Moxie

Moxie gets assaulted by Verosika and her possie in S1EP3. They touch him nonconsensually in a sexual manner despite him turning down their advances. This scene is played entirely as a joke.

2. Husk

Husk is constantly sexually harassed by Angel Dust throughout the course of Hazbin Hotel. Time and time again he's outright denying Angel's sexual advances and Angel violates his boundaries every single time. Touching and groping him nonconsensually, verbally harassing him on a regular basis, and so on. These scenes are portrayed as jokes.

3. Sir. Pentious

Sir Pentious, while under the influence, gets dragged into an enclosed room by a group of people despite him repeatedly saying no. This scene is played entirely as a joke.

4. Blitz

Blitz gets constantly sexually harassed by Stolas. He's also in a sexual exploitive relationship where he'd inclined to say yes to Stolas'sexual advances because he directly depends on Stolas for his livelihood, which is, by definition, a quid pro quo relationship, which is a form of sexual assault. These scenes are played as jokes. Behind the scenes, Vivziepop refuses to acknowledge Stolas as the main perpetrator of abuse and tries to make Stolas out to be a victim of Blitz just as much as Blitz is a victim of Stolas.

5. Angel Dust

Angel Dust is sexually exploited by Valentino, who is his "pimp." Angel Dust's assault is portrayed as a bad thing by the narrative, but behind the scenes, Vivziepop hired a person who has a "CNC" (consent not confirmed) fetish, or a r@pe fetish to put it simply. This person doesn't have any respect for victims of sexual exploration and ships Angel Dust and Valentino. Vivziepop knew this and still let this person onto her team.

Time and time again, even in moments where SA and R@pe is supposed to be seen as bad, Vivziepop manages to downplay it, treat it as a joke, or hire people who get off on it. I don't care if it's fictional or not, if you watch Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel, if you buy Vivziepop's merch or support the show in any way, you are scum. You have no respect for victims of abuse, sexual or otherwise. There is no seperating the art from the artist. The artist has zero respect for SA and neither do fans of the show.

I will try to make this my last post about HB/HH, but I make no promises. But let me make one thing clear; Vivziepop fans are not welcome on my blog. I don't like or respect you people, so kindly fuck off straight to hell.

[pompompoofy]

Dark romance can only work if both characters share a similar level of darkness. The idea of a sweet, innocent girl getting involved with a dangerous guy who kidnaps her is just weird. It's even more frustrating when the narrative centers around the girl trying to "fix" him. This kind of toxic trope really needs to be put to rest.

Similarly, enemies-to-lovers dynamics work best when one character isn’t constantly belittling or bullying the other. I often come across stories where one character treats the other poorly and is outright cruel. Then, as soon as the love interest stands up for themselves, the bully suddenly reveals their trauma and pleads for forgiveness with a sad face, and just like that, they're in love? It doesn’t make any FUCKING sense!

What I’d love to see is a dark romance where the protagonist is a mafia boss just like her love interest instead of being a victim. I’d much prefer an enemies-to-lovers story where one character isn’t being incessantly tormented only to fall for their aggressor.

But if you wanted to keep the tropes the way they are, you should instead write the innocent woman refusing to be with her love interest if he doesn't change who he is and is willing to be better for her on his own. The character being bullied by their love interest in enemies-to-lovers should flat out refuse their apology. They're enemies, right? So why would the main character forgive them in the first place? It could make things much more interesting.

But no, toxic relationships are what's in right now. Most of the writers who write stuff like that have never seen an actual toxic relationship up close. It's so fucking exhausting having to deal with people like that. I have to deal with a family member's toxic relationship almost every day. They'll be abusive towards each other, argue, get drunk, call the cops, and everything goes back to normal as if nothing happened. Toxic relationships are NOT FLATTERING.

Edit: I know I said toxic relationships are bad, only to say how to write dark romance. What I'm saying is that someone shouldn't be a victim in said relationship. If both people are bad, the reader won't exactly feel bad for either character and will only read for the interest of their dynamic.

[pompompoofy]

[pompompoofy]

I am not tolerating ace-spec exclusionists...

Their arguments are so terrible God dammit

"Oh no asexuality isn't a spectrum you're just not as horny and sex-obsessed as society says"

Sweetie, learn the difference between horniness and attraction, you're embarrassing yourself.

"Zero isn't a spectrum. Either you're asexual or you're not."

Never mind the fact that there are an infinite decimals which can be rounded of to zero. Terrible analogy.

"Not everyone feels the same level of attraction. You aren't ace, you're just allo"

Umm, do you hear yourself? The fact that not everyone feels the same degree of attraction is exactly why asexuality is a spectrum; some people can go for ages without feeling attraction, and when they do it's barely noticeable. Some people attraction oonly under very specific circumstances, and that too, may be weak. Lera to acknowledge experiences ffs, it's A SPECTRUM.

Ace-spec exclusionists are stupid, intolerant bigots, and the rest of us will not welcome them.

[pompompoofy]

Irritated rn. Aroace characters aren't "allowed" to be canonically aroace without using the word in the same way a character attracted to the same gender is. If a character is very blatantly obviously a lesbian, fawns after girls, kisses girls, does lesbian coded stuff constantly, the fandom would throw a riot if she were paired romantically with a guy. But if you put that same exact amount of blatantly obvious aroace behaviors in, then people will not only NOT get upset when they're paired up romantically, but will make a million billion excuses on why shipping them romantically should be a normal mainstream position. "Oh they might just not be interested in sex", "oh you can't prove a negative", "oh some aroacespec people are in romantic relationships so it's okay" like do these people hear themselves. Why do they feel the need to dig through every single justification possible until the creators themselves use the words "asexual aromantic" to Word-Of-God it???

Like. Some lesbians date men too, for one reason or another. But it'd be fucking weird if all her popular shipping art was with a man, wouldn't it?

[pompompoofy]

Yknow what I'm bringing this up again, I've talked about how people only bring up sex/romance favorability as an excuse to ship fictional characters but thinking about it now, the aspec community is just as guilty of this because whenever it comes up it's ALWAYS on the topic of "is it okay to ship blorbo if they're canonically aroace" and not "hey maybe we should listen to sex/romance favorable people and try to understand their experiences better"

This community has an issue of only viewing certain parts of itself through the lense of fandom

[pompompoofy]

Lately, I've been getting the sense that allo people simply... don't get what "spectrum" means in "asexual/aromantic spectrum."

The way they regurgitate the same argument of "ace people can still have sex/aro people can still date!" is starting to make me believe they don't view the spectrum as a community of sex-positive, sex-neutral and sex-averse people, but more as a general state of being. It's like they think every aroace person has the equal potential to be sex-positive as they have to be sex-averse and it's only a matter of choice or circumstance.

And that's just... NOT what's happening AT ALL. The spectrum isn't something innately assigned to a singular person, it doesn't define an aro/ace person as a gray canvas who can switch labels at will, but it represents the variety of many people who are either sex/romance positive, neutral, averse, favourable, negative etc. etc.

I feel like allo people simply don't understand that and it's especially obvious in how Alastor is treated. "Ace people can still have sex!" - said about the most obviously sex-averse asexual to ever exist.

(Not saying sex and romance favourable aspecs are invalid! Far from it. I'm just pointing out how allos believe someone repulsed can become favourable under the right circumstances. Which is just untrue.)

[pompompoofy]

hey! im aromantic and i have a boyfriend. yeah. im one of those partnering aros, there ARE aros that date. that being said…

STOP USING US AS AN EXCUSE TO ELIMINATE AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL REPRESENTATION. WE DONT GET A LOT OF THAT. ITS NOT HARD TO HEADCANON THIS CHARACTER OR THAT CHARACTER AS ASPEC EVEN IF (OR ESPECIALLY IF) THEYRE IN A RELATIONSHIP. QPRS EXIST FRIENDS EXIST. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER OPTIONS.

this has been a PSA, thank you.

OP uses it/he/that/thing

[pompompoofy]

"Please grow the fuck up" you can't handle a fictional Platypus choosing not to date or fuck which says a lot about you 💀 whether it's for a kids show or not, that rep still matters. You'd be surprised how many people in that community ship a literal animal with a human being. Aka Dr. Doofenshmirtz.

[pompompoofy]

But it's not a strawman? People have constantly used "aroaces can still date/have sex" toward non-dating/non-sexual aroaces for a long time. You can spend fifteen minutes on this app on tagged canon aroace characters and find dozens of people using that excuse. Ex: Alastor from Hazbin Hotel, Lilith from the Owl House, Perry the Platypus from Phineas and Ferb, Peridot from Steven Universe, and Todd from Bojack Horseman.

I definitely understand that aroaces can date and have sex but that doesn't mean all of us are. This isn't about whether you are less aroace for choosing to date and have sex. It's about how our representation matters, and we should be seen instead of being dismissed just because some aroaces choose to do it. This is not a debate about what being a "real" aroace means.

[pompompoofy]

This post is not about claiming that non-dating, non-sexual aroaces (like myself) are superior to those who are. Instead, it focuses on the issue of how allo individuals often attempt to erase our representation. I'm not trying to provoke conflict within the community; rather, I want to highlight how allos use this excuse to conceal their aphobic tendencies.

[pompompoofy]

Hi, asexual who has sex here and that is not, in fact, a reason to make an asexual character get into the most sexual, freakiest, kinkiest relationship ever. If you think that some of us having sex is a good enough reason, just know your acephobia is showing 🫩

[pompompoofy]

"love is love" until it doesn't include sex

"love is love" until it lives in separate beds

"love is love" until it is queer platonic

"love is love" until it does not comply with compulsory sexuality and amatonormativity

love IS love, for aspecs, for sex repulsed folk and for platonic relationships

"love is love" apply to more than same-sex relationships in a world where romantic and sexual relationships are considered more valuable

Remember to advocate for Asexuals and Aromantics this pride. Because we are also here, and we are also queer

[pompompoofy]

Good lord you people don't care about the nuances of aroace identities until there's a canon aroace character you wanna ship with someone its pathetic

[pompompoofy]

aspec person:kinda fucked up that some queer people think aspecs aren't queer unprompted allo person: oh but what they mean is that you're not in danger because you're still basically cis/straight. They're right but you're still part of the community

even ignoring the casual aphobia of saying aspecs are cishet-lite, i'm tired of those kind of exchanges so let's be for fucking real right now:

Proof that aspecs go through conversion therapy:

The “A” Is Not for Ally: The Continued Pathologization of Asexual People in Modern Mental Health Practices

Better understanding of the scope and nature of LGBTQA+ religious conversion practices will support recovery

Proof that aspec have high rates of suicidality and self-harm:

Intersectional Impact of Allosexism Experiences on Non‐Suicidal Self‐Injury Among Asexual Youth

An Intersectional Exploration of Outness, Encountered Discrimination and Violence, and Non-Suicidal Self-Injury among Asexual Youth across Gender Identities

Variations in suicidality across multiple social identities in asexual people: An intersectionality analysis

Comparing Asexual and Non-Asexual Sexual Minority Adolescents and Young Adults: Stressors, Suicidality, and Mental and Behavioural Health Risk Outcomes

Proof that aspecs go through corrective rape and assault:

Sexual Violence Against the Asexual Community

A quantitative examination of the role of relationship status in asexual college students’ sexual victimization

Battling Asexual Discrimination, Sexual Violence And 'Corrective' Rape

and that list of reputable sources took less than 20 minutes of research. you just don't want to recognize it.

[pompompoofy]

Media: Here's an aroace character! We didn't use the word aroace because it didn't exist when our media was made but we did explicitly say this character has never been attracted to anyone and does not possess any emotional feelings attached to sex or relationships.

Fans: Well actually since they didn't use the word aroace (which didn't exist when the media was made) this means that their lack of attraction is somehow not innate and can be fixed by meeting the right person (please ignore how this perfectly mirrors homophobic "you're not gay you're just struggling with same sex attraction and you'll meet the right one someday" rhetoric) and that right person is (looks for closest friendship this character has) is someone of the same gender so this character is gay and if you disagree you're homophobic.

[pompompoofy]

“I don’t like your XYZ opinion and you as an aroace popular blog shouldn’t say that”

Look I don’t care. Block me then. Unfollow me then. Make your own goddamn aroace blog and say other shit there. I’ll even promo your blog (provided you aren’t an asshole) for you. We need more aroace, ace and aro rep blogs. So if you don’t like something I do, do it yourself