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I have wondered at times what if Schnauder and Supri let Andrei carry out his plan on WAA purpose. Obviously it's a fools errand to do such a plan yet they let him do so. Sometimes I think they let him do that to let him plan his own downfall.

I mean think of it Royst is obsessed with Kayden just like Ameyong is how in the world would he have not learned of Jiwoo when Supil sent the information about him. Unlike other people Royst seemed like he already knew of Jiwoos existence for a long time. Everything just seemed so weird like with how they acted like they knew nothing of the KAA students being there they definitely would have known especially since the vice principal was one of them. The vice principal should have definitely been suspicious of students like Jiwoo especially since Andrea kept giving warnings on him and with one of their members disappearing when sent to hunt Jiwoo. These points should have made them search into Jiwoo and it would have come up that Supil gave information on Jiwoo being Kayden's apprentice.The fact that it didn't come up makes me think that the guy that got the information on Jiwoo belongs to either Supri or Schnauders side in Frame. It seems like after getting the information they more or less hid it from Andrei to make him fall into a trap without realising.

If that is the case they probably saw the fact that Kayden was there as a good way to get rid of Andrei. Not only would Kayden stop Andreis plan and put Frame in a better position they would let Andrei spiral to his down fall. Both of them are fully aware that Andrei would go after Kayden for revenge. Also what a good person to put him against Kayden isn't an organization so they won't have anyone else to worry about. In case this plan failed they would have got rid of a threat like Kayden and Andrei would have been too injured to actually go against them.

Though they lose Andrei both of them don't seem to care much. It's to the point that they even seem to have already planned what to do if they lost Andrei. Now while it is far fetched the fact that both of them act like Andrei being captured is more of an PR annoyance than a full fledged problem makes me believe they just let him spiral to his own loss.

Even Andrei seems to realise in the end that he basically let himself fall into a trap because he refused to let go of his ego and pride. In all honesty he could have had a better time convincing more of the top 10 to gang up and beat Kayden if he was more logical.

A better plan he could have gone with is asking Astra to work with him to defeat Kayden so that Astra could get Kartein. He could have then convinced both Mirou and Greg to join him. If these four were working together they could have definitely somewhat convinced that other top 10 that was with Greg and Mirou during the incident to join. So that even if Schnauder and Supri weren't there it would have been a 5 vs 1. With Kayden in a weaker state and thing is he wouldn't have had trouble convincing them since all of them would have had their own vendetta.

Andrei could have actually got what he wanted if he wasn't as egotistical. If he had just gone on such a route he wouldn't have had trouble convincing both Supri and Schnauder to help. Andrei had many opportunities to come up with good strategies but all of his actions to boost his ego would more or less come at the expense of Frame. I think both Supri and Schnauder saw this and saw a way to get rid of the a lose cannon like Andrei by using Kayden.

I know it's really far fetched but sometimes I just think that they let him go into his downfall on purpose and all it took was them hiding Jiwoos existence from him till he found out about it himself.

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With Andreis capture Greg and Mirous were certain that Schnauder and Supri wouldn't come to fight them for Andrei. Which makes me wonder if it's well known amongst the top 10 that Andrei doesn't get along with the other two, why do they even stay together. Andrei keeps making decisions that will negatively affect Frame.

In his first introduction he attacks WAA now because Kayden was there his plan failed. Thing is because his plan failed it actually put the Frame in a better position. If his plan succeeded then Frame would have had to fight the leaders from the WAO, because of Kaydens intervention the fight that could have turned into a Frame vs WAO fight turned into a rookie vs rookie fight. Thing is since it was a rookie vs rookie fight Frame actually had the upper hand. If Andreis plan had succeeded then it would have been a war between Frame and the WAO.

This is pretty obvious and it's literally stated that WAO vs Frame would be in favour for WAO not to mention WAO would have had the ability to pull in other places weather by force or offering incentives. Increasing their chances in winning and there's no way some of the other top 10 wouldn't come in for a share of Frame. Frames chance of surviving after pulling off such a stunt would have been low to none.

It makes sense that Royst said Schnauder didn't agree with Andreis plan and though it's not stated it seems like Supri wasn't supportive of the plan either. The plan was the equivalent of shooting their own foot with a missile.

Which means that it was Andreis personal plan and vendetta to attack WAA, which does explain why he was there personally, since with the principal trapped all he would have needed was Earthquake and his minions for the plan the only reason he was there was essentially for his own ego boost.

Not to mention it's pretty well known that Andrei is self serving. Astra literally thinks "so this is what Andrei kept secret when telling me Karteins location" when Kayden arrives. Andrei is known to be self serving with the information he gives. When Astra is told that Frame is the one giving information on Karteins whereabouts, he says "their intel is anything but reliable" once he finds out its Andrei that gave it he says " if it's from Andrei it must at least be accurate" from this i can gather two things.

One typically when Frame gives info it isn't always accurate they will manipulate the information they have to their benefit if the situation calls for it. Astra wanted Karteins location it seems that in other situation Frame would have spread the information in mass, like they did with info on Jiwoo when Supil sent it to Frame. Considering how little Vatore seemed to know in comparison to Ameyong about Jiwoo it seems that Frame manipulates the information they give out so they can get the upper hand. Note that only Ameyong and Dran got proper information on Jiwoo, these guys work with Frame at times. Frame probably has ways to keep track of them. Remember that the goal of those two was to get Kayden's force control. I wouldn't put it past Frame if they captured those two to get Kayden's force control if they had managed to get it from Jiwoo. This would have been a good strategy as it removes Frames connection if they captured Jiwoo directly Frame would be under Kayden's wrath but if they went with a route where they got it out of Ameyong and Dran they would be able to distance themselves with Kayden.

Note that despite the fact that Frame got information on Jiwoo before anyone else the top 10 didn't know about Jiwoos existence till WAA. They probably assumed that it was a guy with electricity powers passing himself off as Kayden's apprentice the top 10 probably didn't think of it as legit information until Kayden confirmed it. This can be further proven by the fact that Ameyong was able to get rid of Jiwoos information fairly quickly, normally you wouldn't be able to get rid of legitimate info someone related to Kayden that easily. But since Ameyong has a history with Kayden if he was to say it was fake information that they got and that it was sent for petty revenge; which it was since Supil sent it, it would have been easy to get rid of such information.

Now on to Andrei, Astra saying " if it's from Andrei it must at least be accurate" shows just what kind of character Andrei is. It shows that if Andrei gives information it's going to be honest but there's always going to be a dangerous catch one that will benefit Andrei. Astra knew and expected that getting info on Kartein from Andrei would come with added baggage as it was from Andrei.

Again and again Andrei shows himself as a character that isn't a team player. Even when Andrei says he would beat Kayden and share the fruits of his success with Schnauder and Supri they don't really show belief in his words. He shows time and time again he isn't someone who works in a team unless it's a situation that benefits him.

Both Supri and Schnauder aren't surprised with Andrei being betrayed and don't consider getting him back as they consider him a lose cannon. Which makes me question why team up with him in the first place.

I guessed that they wanted to have him in the early stages of Frame development but then he started being a lose cannon later on.

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I think they mean extreme in the sense of what is at stake for them. Subin is the heir to the Union and Jisuk is a huge asset. Wooin and Jiwoo are also powerhouses. There's a lot to lose and organisations usually don't take such risks even if the reward is high.

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Lol we should put Jiwoo in a chat noir suit but then Jiyoung isn't going to let him go. Also he'll start getting the fan girls Kayden has.

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As a continuation of this if Jurion is doing his shady business without Veremonte knowing ( which I doubt, I'm not completely sure about Ian)

Does that mean he sat there looking at outfits and went "yes, hoodies, crop tops, and even better crop top hoodies. For hiding out identity we'll wear masks over the bottom half of our face. No one will know who we are" though it would explain why he was chill with his 'crop top' after that 'fight' with Jiwoo.

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Wait a minute is one of them wearing a crop top? A crop top hoodie? That is- really, just really you're going to break into a base like that. Also if that's from Veremontes side I'm surprised. Seriously you would think the guy that dresses to the nines would have some sort of formal wear uniform. Like Greg and Morthuis both wear suits. But no Veremontes apparently wear crop tops and hoodies.

Actually you know what, why do awakeners have such a distinct fashion style. Like those mummy outfits. There's also that black jumpsuit piece that both Mirous apprentices and Ameyong seem to wear. Also Schneider with his flip flops in the mountains (how he hasn't slipped and fallen is a mystery). Also do Schneider and Royst not feel cold in their outfits.

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Okay with recent spoilers I have a question how does Jurion know about their graduation. Jiyoung isn't going to tell him about anything personal. Obviously they aren't being spied on since Ameyong would attack them. So was Jurion stalking their Instagram or something. Did Jiwoo tell Ian he's graduating? ;I can't really see this happening unless they're texting off screen. Also why did he come to meet them did he just assume Jiyoung would show up ; I don't know if she did someone that read naver please tell me if she does. Also why is he randomly walking around their school district.

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Looking at this post again I wondered who would be the best at babysitting

At first I thought it's definitely Veremonte then remembered he's filthy rich he probably just paid nannies to take care of his kids and grandkids. So he would probably just give the responsibility to one of his underlings. Though he's probably the most calm and consoling to a baby. Jurion probably just makes a small play area for the baby with toys and plays a cartoon for the baby. Ian ranges anywhere from getting bored with the baby to full on taking the baby to do something like sleighing. In any case Ian loses his chances taking care of the baby pretty quickly.

Andrei would probably do something similar to Veremonte though I feel like Earthquake would be equally as bad maybe they make the traitor vice-principal guy take care of the baby.

Astra- no just no. His place can't be remotely baby proofed because of his power also neither him or his followers would know how to take care of a child maybe Tanji but best case scenario he's bubble wrapping and giving the baby a helmet for safety.

With Greg it's kinda hard to tell. He'd either be good at it since the baby would just spend the majority of the time sleeping on him cause he's warm. He would just give the baby to his underlings if the baby got fussy. Though Morthuis seems the type to accidentally get into a staring contest with the baby. He seems the type to use parenting books like a instruction manual.

I think for Mirou it would depend if she has cuteness aggression or not. If she doesn't she doesn't bother to care. If she does she's treating the baby more like a doll than an actual baby. As for her unnamed Apprentice he probably pokes or teases the baby for fun cause he thinks the baby's reactions are funny.

Schneider seems the type to just give the baby to his underlings. Unless the baby has a pension for chaos like somehow climbing ceilings, trying to bite grown ups, anything that would cause a normal person to worry would cause him to like the baby. Royst seems the type to be decent at babies probably gives the baby a cartoon to watch and gives the baby a toy. Duke probably fumes and glares at the baby giving the baby passive aggressive commentary like the baby can respond.

Supri gives the vibes of a strict grandma. The baby food has to be perfectly nutritious no junk food no processed food. There's a strict schedule for play and learning. Shes not letting the baby see any cartoons. Educational shows can't be played for more than 30 minutes. There is an allotted nap time and a time for exercise. All in all she takes good care of the baby. Muse is probably also good he isn't as strict and he'd probably sing the baby nursery rhymes.

For Gestella shes probably very awkward at first but she wouldn't hand over the baby to Mei or Blues. She would take it as a challenge ( she's a top ten how dare you question whether or not she can take care of a baby). She gets a bunch of parenting books and panics over every cough, sneeze, or mark on the baby. She is insanely serious about everything related to the baby. Had the entire place baby proofed. Relaxes after a bit and is more comfortable with the baby. Gets the baby cute outfits and accessories. Blues is probably panic cleaning everything every single surface has to be sanitary. He makes sure the baby isn't touching anything dirty. Mei is the calmest, she's probably making fruit shapes and singing songs with the baby.

Kayden is similar to Gestella in that he's awkward with the baby but refuses to admit he is incapable of taking care of one. In his case he already showed he has some knowledge in the medical field (it's shown in the earlier chapters). After getting used to the baby he's pretty chill with the baby. Also Kartein is pretending like he isn't but he's definitely also looking out for the baby's health. Kartein makes sure the baby eats healthy and gets proper exercise for babies. Also make sure the baby has proper mental stimulus. Pluton probably tries to give the baby strength training early on (Kartein scolds him as Jiwoo slowly carries the baby away). Jiwoo is really sweet with the baby probably doing small dances with the baby for nursery rhymes the baby absolutely loves Jiwoo. Ameyong is probably very awkward but later warms up to the baby and is very protective.

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Does anyone think that Alexis would have liked cartoons/shows that involved magic

Like Mia and me, Every Witch Way, Winx Club etc. I know that they were mostly geared towards little girls,but I can imagine him trying to find magical books that would take him to another land. Trying to say things in rhymes to see if he can do spells. Also trying to find a orc to awaken his hidden magical potential.

Added note I just looked it up each of those shows had guys that were good at magic.

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I'm curious as to why he looks so upset, for context this was after Andrei says Kayden should be injured after his fight with Astra. Obviously he doesn't care about the Kayden part, so is he upset over Astra being mentioned? Were they friends or something? It doesn't seem like they would get along. Unless it's like that friendship trio where there are two chaotic loud friends with the one quiet friend who reels them in. Funnily enough both Astra and Mirou are the shortest top 10 so far with Greg being the tallest we've seen so far. So I guess if they're friends it's basically two screeching chihuahuas with a silent doberman. Maybe that's another reason they turned on Andrei so quickly; They blame him for Astras death.

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With how old the top 10 are I sometimes wonder why only one of them had kids. I started thinking about this mainly cause while rereading eleceed I came across the chapter that said most of the time Force control is passed through the family. So yeah I wondered why none of the others had kids.With the fact that each of them are more than a century old they were from a time when marriage was a big deal.

I can understand the more western top 10 not being married, but Astra seems to be asian. With how most asian countries are even right now. I wonder why he has no kids or grandkids. With Gestella she seems the youngest and the one who is self made so her not having a relationship is understandable, there probably wasn't anyone to boss her around but the others seem to have long standing organizations with groups under them.

Unless they just got rid of the partner when they reached the top 10 level or something. Which is morbid but with how the awakener world is characterized I wouldn't be surprised.

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With all the posts of Vatore recently I was thinking it would be funny if he turned into a secretary bird

Or peacock but Jiwoo would be able to hide a secretary bird better than a peacock. My next best guess is a ferret those guys are dramatic.

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Adding to my previous post on Awakener women in the late 1800s do you guys think Supri had a fancy little umbrella.

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I just had a random shower thought women in the awakener world would have probably had to fight in those old timey dresses like the one with a petticoat and Corset. Which makes me wonder, if Supri was born in the late 1800s she would have been throwing hands in a hoop skirt dress and a fancy little hat.