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Reasons why Jackie should have ended up with Hyde not Fez

This is going to be a long-ass meta so brace yourselves. I’m still not over season 8 of That 70s Show. In my humble opinion Jackie and Fez are the worst pairing that was ever endgame (even though Robin and Ted from himym is a strong competor but more on that later). Jackie and Fez is just plain mismatched. Not only they have zero chemistry they are also completely wrong for each other. Even though I have recently found a forum full of Jackie x Fez shippers were speaking about how good they actually were for each other. “He has loved her for 8 years!” “He’s such a nice guy she just had to get over the fact that he’s foreign and they could work!” “She has always liked him!” So I’m gonna go through this show season by season and find all the reasons why Fez and Jackie were totally wrong for each other just because I’m bitter okay?

Season 1: This is when Jackie and Hyde hated each other and Fez had a crush on Jackie. Even though: 1) Hyde got pissed when Eric lied to Jackie, 2) Jackie tells Hyde:“If you wanna make out with me the answer’s PROBABLY no.” Probably. She doesn’t hate him all that much. Also 3) Jackie seeks comfort in Hyde’s arms after her breakup with Kelso, not Fez’s and 4) when Fez does try to comfort her she pulls away. She clearly likes Hyde much more than him even though she supposedly hates him. And then there’s my fave season 1 episode: Prom night. There are many important things in this one, this for instance: 5) Even though Fez is “in love” with her he doesn’t ask her to prom. He spends the whole night trying to get his english teacher to dance with him instead or 6) Jackie is clearly upset about something and Hyde asks her what it is. He DOES care about her no matter what he says and 7) he can’t stand the look at her crying so he does everything to make her happy. He takes her to the prom and helps her reunite with Kelso. He actually cares about her happiness. Also 8) he buys a tuxedo and a corsage for her despite his poor financial situation. Heck, he spent more money on her than he was willing to spend on Donna when he had a crush on her!

Season 2: This is when Fez is madly in love with Jackie while Hyde still doesn’t like her but at least they tolerate each other. 9) Fez makes a move on her in the dark when she thinks he’s Kelso. That’s creepy. 10) He also goes through her personal stuff without her consent whereas 11) Hyde is the only one who actually tries to get Kelso caught cheating on Jackie with Laurie. He also calls him out on his bad treatment of Jackie on numerous ocasions.12) When Jackie does find out Kelso’s been cheating on her she looks for comfort in Hyde’s arms. Hyde even says:“Why does she ALWAYS come to me?” This hasn’t happened for the first time. 13) Jackie vents to Hyde endlessly. They go on a “date” and she buys him shoes and 14) she gets upset again and cries and Hyde’s voice suddenly gains softness it doesn’t have when he’s talking to anyone else and he says:“Anything for you doll.” 15) Fez wants to take advantage of Jackie’s vulnerability after her breakup with Kelso while 16) Hyde tells him that she’s still on a rebound and he should give her space which 17) Fez doesn’t do and then gets upset when Jackie isn’t her usual super cute self. 18) Later, when Jackie is back to being her usual super cute self she openly rejects Fez and tells him that she only likes it when he worships her from afar. She likes the attention he gives her not him himself. 19) When Jackie is hanging out with Eric, Fez and Hyde and Eric, who really hates her asks why does she have to be there it’s Hyde who defends her presence there not Fez and 20) when Kelso and Laurie walk in and start provoking Jackie by making out right in front of her Hyde gets visibly pissed and so 21) he teaches her how to protect herself from Laurie’s insults and then 22) he invites her to the circle for the first time. 23) Jackie calls Hyde “the sweetest, coolest guy she knows”. Like has she ever said anything like that about Kelso, let alone Fez? No! 24) Even though Hyde still claims to be annoyed by Jackie he goes to prison for her without blink of an eye.

Season 3: Jackie has a big obvious crush on Hyde now and Fez has a big obvious crush on Jackie. 25) Hyde pretends not to like her back but he clearly does because 26) even when Formans threaten to kick him out of the house he still doesn’t tell anyone that the weed was Jackie’s and keeps covering for her. 27) “But Jackie and Fez went to roller disco together!” is a common argument of Jackie x Fez shippers. Okay, but that doesn’t mean she likes him back. She clearly still doesn’t. 28) “She wanted to have sex with him in that car but he refused because she was drunk and he’s a gentleman,” is another argument. How is Fez a gentleman?! Not taking advantage of a drunk chick should be normal because it’s the right thing to do! And yes Jackie gave him drunken consent but the next day when she was sober she turned him down again. 29) Jackie herself said that her and Fez will never happen. 30) Jackie tries to make Hyde jealous and brings a date to the Veteran’s Day barbecue and 31) she can tell it clearly works because 32) she understands Hyde better than most people and know that his:“That’s cool.” is just how he hides his real emotions. 33) Fez doesn’t seem to be jealous at all. 34) Her date turns out to be a jerk that just wants to bang her and doesn’t even like her as a person, so Hyde punches him right in the face. Hyde, not Fez because 35) Fez is just like that guy too! 36) Even Kitty knows Hyde likes Jackie even though he’s in denial 37) and says:“I can’t like her!” which means he DOEs like her he just doesn’t want to admit it. 38) He asks her on a “frickin’ date” during which 39) he teases her but doesn’t want to end it, 40) gives her his denim jacket and he himself only has a T-shirt on in November and 41) gives her his cola and 42) admits their date was no worse than bowling and he doesn’t hate bowling while 43) Jackie says it was the best date ever. 44) Then they share a hot passionate kiss during which 45) they both clearly felt something no matter what they say. 46) Fez himself admits that his crush on Jackie was just purely physical and 47) moves on and finds somebody else while 48) Jackie couldn’t care less. 49) In Valentine’s Day episode Fez says:“Be mine.” to Caroline and Hyde looks at Jackie and smiles. 50) When Jackie and Kelso want to get back together Hyde tries to stop them not Fez and 51) when they start dating again it’s Hyde who tries to break them up on multiple occasions. 52) When Jackie is getting her promise ring from Kelso she looks at Hyde and he shrugs as if to say:“I don’t know why are you with him.”

Season 4: Jackie and Kelso are together in this season and Fez is with Big Rhonda. They are not many Hyde x Jackie moments only 53) Hyde protects Jackie from the creep in funland even though 54) Fez was sitting right there and didn’t protect her. 55) Jackie brings an ugly girl to the Get Hyde a Girlfriend party and 56) Hyde offers Jackie a lowfive after she burned Eric and 57) they played Mary and Joseph in the Chrismas play for church. 58) Hyde likes Jackie in her cheese maid uniform and 59) teases her a lot during his season like when he drew a monobrow on her with a marker on the Snow Prom. It’s kind of like in kindergarden when a boy is pulling a girl’s braid. 60) She is the first person to say happy birthday to him and she kisses him on a cheek and they hug. 61) They dance together in the musical episode. 62) Hyde gets mad at Kelso for his constant whinning about Jackie kissing the cheese guy and calls him out on it and finally 63) when Donna opens the door and it hits Jackie, Hyde catches her.

Season 5: This is the season in which 64) Jackie and Hyde finally got together and Kelso wants to get Jackie back, while 65) Fez couldn’t care less. 66) Jackie and Hyde’s kisses are 100x more passionate than that one kiss she and Fez shared in 201 which was supposedly Jackie’s best kiss ever and 67) they frech like two french people on a frenching festival. 68) Hyde taught Jackie that she can’t always get what she wants while 69) Jackie made Hyde softer. 70) He shaved his beard off to cheer her up and 71) they both are planning a future together only after 3 months of dating and 72) Hyde makes Jackie realize that she doesn’t need a man to take care of her and she can have a carreer and make money herself. 73) Jackie herself says:“Steven, I know in my heart that the only person I want to fight for is you!” He is the only person she wants to fight for, not Kelso, not Fez, but him! 74) Hyde gives her a birthday gift that wasn’t expensive but is really sentimental and Jackie appretiates it. 75) Hyde, a guy that said back in season 2:“Why would you just want to cuddle with her when you can do it?!” cuddled with Jackie in his bed every night for three weeks while 76) Fez hides under Jackie’s bed while she is asleep and masturbates there. That’s the guy she ended up with, all right. 77)Hyde was really sorry about the whole nurse thing, even though I know it’s no way excusable he was feeling very guilty and 78) she’s the only person Hyde has ever said:“I love you.” to sober. 79) Even Donna said Hyde is the one for Jackie. 80) When Jackie heard that someone fell of the water tower she immediatelly worries about Hyde not Kelso, or Fez. 81) “I have never felt this way about a girl before. I wanna be with her.” Do I need to say more?! 82) “I know I love Steven because he’s smart and he’s deep and we have conversation and he makes me think which used to give me a headache but now I really like. But Michael is so beautiful!” The only good thing she can think of in Kelso is his looks while she doesn’t even mention Fez. He isn’t even an option for her.

Season 6: This season started with Jackie torn between Hyde and Kelso. Fez is married to Laurie. At this point the show is stirred into Jackie x Hyde direction not Jackie x Kelso or Jackie x Fez. 83) Jackie chooses Hyde. Not Kelso, not Fez, Hyde! 84) Even Kelso and Fez themselves ship Jackie x Hyde meaning they have both moved on and don’t want Jackie for themselves anymore. 85) Hyde himself admits that he wants to be with Jackie and 86) his half smile when he kisses her do I need to say more?! 87) Jackie can’t keep her hands off her Puddin’ Pop and 88) he likes it when she calls him that. 89) Hyde is slowly becoming whipped which is cute af, 100x cuter than when Kelso was whipped and 90) He says things like: “We’ve been tip-top since the moment I met you.” or “You make me happy.” and 91) only smiles like that for her. 92) he teaches her how to play chess and inspires her to read books. 93) even though he has some commitment issues he likes her in a wedding dress which means some day they are gonna get married! 94) Fez tells Jackie:“Don’t drink too much, I’ll take advantage.” This is the man she ended up with.

Season 7: This is when Jackie and Hyde are together and 95) even Fez seems to ship them and 96) he himself seems to have a crush on her ex boyfriend Kelso, not her. 97) Jackie is passive-aggressive towards Hyde’s father that abandoned him and defends Hyde to him with the words:“He’s perfect!” 98) She has never called Fez perfect. In fact I don’t remeber one positive thing she said about Fez over the years. 99) Jackie bakes cookies to cheer Hyde up. 100) After their breakup Fez supports her and helps them get back together. 101) Even Eric says Jackie makes Hyde happier than ever. 102) Hyde didn’t ditch Jackie because she’s his chick. 103) Kelso said to Eric and Donna:“ I think they (Jackie and Hyde) are going to last longer than you.” Yeah, but guess who was endgame and who wasn’t. Not cool season 8 writers, not cool! 104) Jackie says Hyde is the most important thing in the world for her and 105) he admits to the gang that he wants to marry her and 106) to Leo that he loves her. 107) He travels all the way to Chicago to propose!

“But Fez has loved her for eight years!” Jackie x Fez shippers say. Well, first of all, the show is set between May 1976 and December 1979 so no, he couldn’t have loved her for 8 years. And second of all, he stopped liking her in season 3 and never expressed any kind of interest in her again.

“He’s such a nice guy, she just had to get over the fact that he’s foreign and then it would work.” This is wrong on so many levels. First of all, Fez is not a nice guy. He stalked her and Donna through her window, went through their things, hid in Donna’s closet or under her bed to masturbate, tried to pick up chicks at the ladies’ restroom… the list goes on and on. Second of all, as an immigrant I wouldn’t want to be with somebody as xenophobic as Jackie.

“She has always liked him! You could tell by the way she looked at him!” Well, did you see the way she looked at Hyde in 225, 301 or 709???! Beacuse those were massive heart eyes!

“Jackie needs a guy that is as obssessed with her as she is with herself. She needs someone who truly admires her.” How is Fez that guy?! Fez never admired Jackie. He was disgusted when she had something stuck in her teeth on their first date. He ditched her on that wedding in 621. He treated her poorly, even in season 8 when they were supposed to be in love. He called her a bitch, a whore, a slut and a spoiled brat multiple times, locked her in her room while he was on his date with his crazy ex Caroline, told her she’s ugly inside and out, he dyed her hair green, he told her wearing makeup makes her a liar because she looks gross without it and the list goes on and on. The most outrageous was when he told her that he can’t be with her because she dated two guys before him while he dated and banged many and many chicks before her! Talk about hypocrisy and double standards.

In conclusion, Jackie and Fez were a damn disaster. Some people say that it wouldn’t have been if they had got together in season 2 or 3 but I think timing wasn’t the only issue here. They weren’t right for each other and had zero chemistry. Jackie and Kelso had great comical chemistry and were funny together but didn’t work either and Jackie and Eric were just nonexistent, I don’t get why do some people even bother to ship them. Jackie and Hyde were what worked for me and many other fans and that’s what should’ve mattered to the season 8 writers.

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Steve/Tony: Why I ship them in the MCU

Alright, partytimexelent. You wanted an explanation! WELL. YOU GET ONE.

Okay so number 1:

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That is the the first genuine smile we see from Steve since he woke up. Really. Honestly. Go watch the ENTIRE movie. He has some snark-smile esque things with Loki (kind of??) and some awkward!smile with Coulson, and some stern-father smiles with Bruce. But other than that, the first GENUINE smile we see Steve have in the 21st century is over Tony. 

Okay, but it’s just a SMILE, who cares if that’s the smile of a man obviously realizing he’s gay for the first time. Let’s delve deeper into this!

Keep reading

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stevetony will never be canon, keep dreaming

there goes all my hopes cRUSHED, anon. all of this time spent shipping them meANINGLESS. empty. how will i gO ON knowing that they will never be elevated to the mythic untouchable status of canon. it’s so sad that all i have is

steve riding tony

steve defending naked tony’s honor

the way tony likes to launch himself face first at steve in order to protect him

tony stark: steve rogers’ personal chauffer

it’s

kind of

a thing

for them

but let’s not forget

steve carries tony out of burning buildings in the bridal carry

in fact steve guest stars in an iron man comic just to carry tony out of a burning building

the fireman’s carry is actually reserved for the cartoon

marvel funded & created a CGI animation film featuring 71 minutes of them sassing each other and taking names

once upon a time the current writer for the avengers, jonathan hickman (2012-present) implied that tony’s method of choice to make up to steve were blowies

and yes he might be torturing us all but at least he’s man enough to admit that the avengers is really about their relationship

and is that surprising i mean there’s an entire comic that’s based on a narrative arc, again, aBOUT THEM

comic writer brian michael bendis on how avengers: prime was framed as an adventure they had to go on to remind them why they love each other so much

here it is in tony’s own words

tony looking like he’s having a religious experience and seen the light or smth while being hugged by steve

60′s comics written like all the best terrible fanfiction where tony stark refers to steve rogers’ eyes as clear azure and composes poetry about his grace and daring

“i know you believe in the future, but i believe in people. and i choose to believe in your, iron man.”

retro comics were just really gay

animated tv show avengers assemble opens with steve facing off against red skull, his presumed “death” is the catalyst for tony reforming the avengers. their mid-season finale ended with tony “almost dying”

not very pg-13 for a kids’ show if you ask me

it’s really also extremely gay

tony stark no. 1 fanboy

in all the universes

what’s his username? captain america. what’s his password? captain america. foolproof. no one would ever guess. totally unhackable.

avengers tower: home and HQ of the earth’s mightiest heroes but also the site of the one and only “cap tribute room”

all the best superhero bases have framed portraits of captain america it’s interior designing 101

in fact tony thinks steve’s pretty no matter what skintight navel-bearing costume he’s wearing

tony thinks ultimates cap just so happens to be america’s hottest president

“CAPTAIN HANDSOME”

“good morning beloved” to which steve answers without even batting an eye

are they flirting??? was there really another horse?? we just don’t know

“where is here? is this a dream? tell me it is, tony. tell me you can wake me. tell me i’m not going to die in my sleep. don’t let this old soldier just fade away” – marvel comics?? or soap opera love story?? who can even tell the difference???

pictured: assorted superheroes with representatives from the avengers, the fantastic four, the x-men discussing how much tony and steve love each other while in the background steve and tony have a conversation

a married couple and leaders of the next generation of avengers referring to steve and tony as the mother and father of the avengers

sometimes they hold hands

actual canon universe earth-3490 where cis female tony married steve and their marriage helped end the civil war.

“mr. stark, when i woke up in this era, i had no one, nothing. you gave me a purpose, somewhere to belong. you gave me a home.”

tony and steve’s lips have touched bc tony was giving him cPR TO SAVE his life at the risk of his own

tony referring to the day he met steve as the greatest day of his life

civil war: the confession. where tony stark admits to steve rogers’ cold dead body that worse than the equivalent of selling his soul, alienating half of his friends and family from him, destroying his moral integrity combined, the one thing he couldn’t live with was steve being dead

“maybe… maybe there was a reason you had to be on the other side of every argument. how you could be my rudder, steering me when other’s couldn’t… i don’t know if i can do it without you… i certainly won’t do it as well…”

like they’re standing there reincarnated as walking corpses and steve’s missing half his face and they’re still acting like an old married couple

“guess they’ll have to learn to love me. you did.”

they jOKE ABOUT HAVING THE KIND OF ROUGH SEX THAT REQUIRES SAFEWORDS.

why dream when i have all this cold hard reality staring me in the face

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one thing about me is that i am bisexual

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Link and Resources re:Steve/Tony!

Note: While I haven’t written anything linked here aside from the write ups, I feel compelled to state that these links discuss canon from a primarily Steve/Tony-centric lens. This list doesn’t exist to bash other ships or disprove them by lifting this ship. I did my best to make sure no ship bashing occurs in any of the links (and if I missed anything, feel free to message me and I’ll take the link down; ship bashing is not something I encourage). I compiled this for people who are starting out in the fandom and want to learn more, or for people who’ve been around for a while and are interested in learning how Steve and Tony’s relationship has developed through countless canonical interactions. This was originally a page in my fic rec blog, made rebloggable by request.

PRIMERS

Short Marvel Universes Primer by copperbadge Brief as it is useful, this post succinctly discusses the difference between Marvel universes, particularly 616 and the MCU. Useful to read before starting on any other link!

Info Post of Steve/Tony Across Universes by tsukinofaerii Posted on the Cap-Iron Man LJ community, this primer extensively tackles the differences between Steve and Tony’s relationship in each Marvel universe, along with gratuitous pictures of Steve’s ass (♥). This primer includes, among others, 616, Marvel Cinematic, The Ultimates, and the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes universes).

The Evolution of the Steve/Tony Fandom by Catherine Coker A very in-depth and detailed take on the evolution of the ship throughout the different Marvel Universes, as well as the function of alternate universes in the fandom, and the intertwined histories of Steve and Tony. Very informative!

616 Primer by slaniasong A nice and detailed guide to shipping Steve/Tony in the 616 verse. While this has no scans, it’s useful because it discusses the difference in the characterizations of Steve and Tony in the MCU and 616 verse, which I think is very important.

Civil War Explained by patheticfangirl (archived) Explains the events that led to the Civil War, what happens during, and what happens after all the way up to Avengers Prime. While it’s kiiiiiind of biased (though we all have our own biases, don’t we), this is a nice explanation because it includes scans of the comics so it’s fun to read. (Well, as fun as Civil War can ever be.)

Comics Primer by diapurple Very useful guide to the Steve/Tony ship in the comics, with download links! This is good, especially for the Civil War arc, because it’s arranged chronologically rather than by title so you get a fuller picture of what happens to Steve and Tony’s relationship. If anything, go read Casualties of War: it is fanfic in comic.

SHIPPING

A Sword, A Horse, and A Shield: A Steve/Tony Ship Manifesto by elspethdixon The original ship manifesto! This discusses Steve and Tony’s relationship mostly in the comic verse and provides a very in-depth discussion on the context surrounding it. Also includes links to fics and fanart! And the comments section is fun as well.

Complete List of Shippy Moments in the Comics A VERY detailed and complete list of all the shippy moments in the comics verse, with organization that makes my need for lists look only mildly neurotic.

Defending the Existence of Steve/Tony in the Comics This post isn’t as formal as my other posts, but it’s a guilty pleasure of mine to read it whenever I’m feeling down because it’s just such an emotional defense of the ship and it explains it so damn well. If you know any more posts like this, feel free to link me!

Defending Shipping in General (with Steve/Tony as an example) Sometimes hate is directed at the idea of shipping anyone at all, and this reply to one such post is, I think, very insightful and talks about shipping Steve/Tony in a very tasteful and concise way. Beautiful, really.

Shipping Steve/Tony in the MCUbyeverybodyilovedies A relatively brief, but no less emotional, take on the Steve/Tony ship in the MCU. This cites particular instances which indicate a deeper a relationship between the two. Very entertaining read, haha.

Shipping Steve/Tony in the MCUby copperbadge A brief and general take on Steve and Tony’s relationship in the MCU. Interesting and insightful take on the subject, as most of Sam’s posts are.

Why I Ship Steve/Tony by Buzby (archived) A nice compilation of some very shippy (glaringly shippy, in fact) moments in the comics verse and how these indicate at the very least a more-than-friends relationship between Steve and Tony.

FANFIC

Cap/Iron Man Livejournal Community AO3 Page (arranged by Kudos) Tales of Suspense Fanfic/Fanart Archive

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SteveTony Weekly - April 11

I’m just gonna stop saying I read a lot this week. I apparently always read a lot. Here we go. Remember to comment/kudos if you enjoy! 

**Indicates my recent favs 

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It’s not the mountain we conquer by Darkyu (Ultimates/14k) 

Steve Rogers was known to be an honest man. And, really, he is. But even Captain America has his limits and Tony is well known for challenging them.

Steve, after trying it all, decides that he needs to try a different tactic to get Tony to quit stubbornly denying the love that they have for each other.

Luckily for Steve, he has some powerful friends in the magic field that could offer him a final solution to his problem.

crash love by s_hylor (Ultimates/21k) 

It’s just sex. Just sex between two consenting adults who don’t have feelings for each other beyond the camaraderie that comes from being on the same team.

It’s just sex. Until it isn’t. It’s not love. Until it is.

bros before by tsukinofaerii (Ultimates/8.8K) 

For a year, Steve and Tony have had a bromance of epic proportions, bonding over cheesy movies and long, dateless nights where they reminisce over love lost. But now something threatens to interfere with their precious Thursday Night Movies: a woman. Dun dun duuuuun.

there is no ‘i’ by jadedoll (MCU/20K) 

Summary: The reasons not to join the Avengers were many and varied. The problem was that when Captain America smiled at him, Tony had trouble remembering what they were.

bridge over troubled waters by vokosigan (Endgame fixit/5.8k) 

After Thanos is defeated, Tony throws a party, like one does. Steve is there, and Tony thinks it’s an awesome idea to seduce him, for old times’ sake. Things get… complicated.

scratching posts & love by talesofsuspense (MCU/7.6K) 

There’s a million reasons he can’t and shouldn’t get a pet, but his therapist apparently thinks they’re all just bad excuses and tells him as much.

Thicker than water by StarkatHeart (Superfamily/25k) 

 Neither of them would admit it, but blood does count for something.

When Peter Parker discovers his biological father is actually none other than Tony Stark, it’s not exactly news that’s well received. By either party. But they’re Avengers. They’re teammates. They’ll just have to work through it. …Or maybe just ignore it.

Five Times Tony Stark Misjudged Steve Rogers (and one time he didn’t) by sweatervest (MCU/5K) 

There’s plenty of weird shit to deal with after fighting aliens, like “How Does One Dispose of Alien Remains Without Poisoning the Water” and “Wow Insurance Companies Are Really Not Equipped for This,” but Tony suspects that “Steve Rogers is Actually Very Funny” and “Steve Rogers is a Stealthy Bastard” probably shouldn’t be as close to the top of the list as they are.

Timeline runs from after Captain America: The First Avenger to just after Avengers: Age of Ultron.

punch-drunk lust by jellybeanforest (A/B/O / 10k) 

The interpersonal chemistry between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark is undeniable, but both being alphas, they are not sexually compatible in the slightest. So, they come up with a method to determine who tops: a no-holds-barred wrestling match for dominance with Tony in his suit to even the odds.

Based on a Cap-IronMan Kinkmeme Prompt requesting Alpha Steve/Alpha Tony. For the Cap-IronMan Bingo 2019 Round 2 – Fist Fight.

***marty mcfly never had to deal with this by sweatervest (MCU/ 15k) 

Tony’s latest project goes less “renewable energy” and more “slightly explosive time machine,” and Howard Stark arrives from 1946.

Why, Steve would like to know, are time and space going to such lengths to cockblock him?

***side effects by elimymoons (Ultimates/ 29k)

“So what I’d like to propose,” Tony continued on, “is for you to let me help you out a little, yeah? We’ll work off some of this energy, some of this adrenaline, and you don’t have to worry about hurting yourself anymore, okay?”

Steve’s in a bit of trouble. Tony wants to help him out. Sexily.

breakwater by Captain_Panda (Civil War AU/ 18K) 

Captain America: Civil War AU.

When the helicopter hits the water, Captain America and the Winter Soldier both go under. Only the Winter Soldier escapes.

By the time Tony Stark and company find Steve Rogers, he’s been dead for nearly an hour. Brought back from beyond the brink, Steve is a changed man.

Things will never be the same.

A breakwater is “a barrier that breaks the force of waves, as before a harbor.”

***breathing at the same time by softanticipation (Endgame Fixit/47k) 

The dust settles and the stones are returned, leaving Steve more aimless than ever. In a world that doesn’t seem to need him anymore, he eventually learns that purpose goes beyond war and love is more than just a four-letter word.

Featuring two halves of a road trip, sidewalk chalk, and a man with whom Steve never expected to share a pull-out couch.

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Steve sighs, and wants to bang his head against the cabinets. “You’re welcome too, Tony,” he says wearily. “I’m not trying to keep anyone away.”

“No,” Tony says bitterly. “You just left without telling anyone where you were going, without any way for us to contact you.”

It stings, but it’s not untrue.

falling into you by sabrecmc (MCU-canon divergent/53k) 

Tony and Steve end up as fuck buddies after the events of The Winter Soldier until Steve calls it off. When Loki’s spell wipes all of Steve’s memories since the last time Loki was in town, Tony decides it will be so much easier to just not tell Steve they had something of a relationship. Spoiler: It isn’t.

Or, how Steve fell in love with Tony and forgot about it, and how Tony fell in love with Steve and realized it.

A thousand kisses deep by laireshi (Ultimates / 3.5k) 

Steve doesn’t seem too happy when Steve Rogers of Marvel Ultimate gets transported into their universe. He seems even less happy when Tony and the new Steve get closer to each other.

The Best of Intentions by Sineala (Ultimates / 2.4k) 

Steve Rogers, Earth-1610, attempts to warn Steve Rogers, Earth-616, away from Tony Stark. Events do not proceed as planned.

***the word I use to describe by nanasekei (Ultimates/2.6k) 

“Here,” Steve says, in guise of explanation. Tony’s expression is puzzled. He takes his head off Steve’s shoulder, straightening his posture.

“Is that for me?”

“Yeah,” Steve breathes. His stomach is clenching in anxiety, which is ridiculous – it’s just a fucking ugly scarf, Tony knows so many people, he’s got to have gotten worse gifts before. “It’s, uh. A bit late.”

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Peter: Why didn’t you tell me the team was coming over?!

Peter: I just walked downstairs in Iron Man boxers and a shirt that said ‘say hey if you’re gay’ and we had like 8 fucking people in the living room

Tony: Did any of them say ‘hey’? Steve said ‘hey’ didn’t he?

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Sam Wilson’s Feelings Towards Bucky Barnes

In this meta, I’m arguing that Sam Wilson, as he is portrayed in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier, has romantic feelings for Bucky Barnes. Before you think I’m overreaching and reading too much into this show, read on and think about the evidence I’m going to present. Could a simple friendship explain the differences in Sam’s interactions with other characters versus his interactions with Bucky?

Disclaimer: I’m not saying that Disney is going to show us a homosexual couple. Honestly, I don’t think that’s going to happen. I’m not accusing anyone of queerbaiting either. I don’t want to enter into that argument. I just believe that Sam Wilson is a man in love with another man. 

Sam’s Demeanor with Bucky:

In episode 1, we have a delightful scene between Sam and Torres, who seems to genuinely admire Sam. After taking a video of Sam speaking Arabic, the impressed Torres makes a few light comments. Sam responds with a smile but maintains a serious demeanor and cracks minimal jokes. He doesn’t relax or drop his guard. Compare that to his drastic change in attitude in episode 2. After only spending 3 minutes with Bucky, he’s talking about wizards and sorcerers and something about hats. 

And he’s always joking around with Bucky. He doesn’t let himself do that with other characters on the show, not even his own sister. This shows that with Bucky, Sam feels like he can relax more. For some reason, he feels safe with Bucky to show his true self.

Sam checks on him, constantly

In episode 1, we find out that Sam has texted Bucky post blip several times. Enough times that Bucky’s therapist, Dr. Raynor, uses that to gauge how well Bucky is connecting with other people. She admonishes him for ignoring Sam’s texts. In episode 3, we find out that Sam hasn’t given Sharon the same treatment. He hasn’t texted or called her, despite the fact that she had placed her career on the line for him, Steve, and Bucky. His only concern was Bucky and to see how he was doing.

Not only did he text Bucky, but Sam is periodically checking on his state of mind and well being, showing genuine concern and care. 

“You good?” 

“What’s going on in that Cyborg brain of yours?” 

Again, we don’t see him check on other characters like this. Bucky gets special treatment.

Sam lets Bucky do what he wants

The keyword here is lets. Sam lets Bucky do whatever the f*ck he wants to do because he’s weak in the face of Bucky’s desires and demands. Sam can be very stubborn, he’s just subtle with it. In the show, he refuses to give up on the boat, refuses to give into his sister’s demands, and tries to think of solutions for this problem. That bank scene not only hints at the consequences of the blip and other social issues, but it highlights Sam’s intelligence and determination. When he wants something, he will work hard to get it. That’s why he survived so long as Steve’s partner-in-crime when they were on the run. And he still hasn’t given up on the boat.

Yet, we see this intelligent, stubborn man cave into Bucky over and over again. First, Bucky wants to come with him on the mission in episode 2. Sam says no, but Bucky is sitting with him on the plane in the next scene. If Sam truly didn’t want Bucky to come, he wouldn’t have let him come. He isn’t a pushover- he gave up Steve’s shield because he couldn’t stand the idea of being the new Captain America. Some other examples: Sam lets Bucky go in to see Zemo alone and goes along with his plan to use Zemo’s connections to find out more about the super-soldier serum.

Sam keeps touching Bucky’s metal arm

He’s touched Bucky’s metal arm a total of three times. The first time, after rolling in the flowers, he lets his hand rest on it. This is almost a comforting gesture, one that is entirely unnecessary, but the camera lingers on the touch for a few seconds. Next, in the therapy scene, he pointedly slaps Bucky’s vibranium arm. In episode 3, Sam protectively grabs Bucky when he sees that the danger has increased in the bar. The touch helps snap Bucky out of his Winter Soldier mode. 

This shows a fascination with what makes Bucky different and dangerous, which could be the type of people Sam’s attracted to sexually. Let’s not forget that Sam had expressed physical attraction towards Black Widow, who is the embodiment of sensuality and danger. Sam Wilson has a type, and Bucky fits it.

Sam calls Bucky “Buck”

 It’s the nickname Steve had for Bucky, and it’s interesting that Sam seems a little bothered when Bucky says he couldn’t use it.

“Why not? It’s what Steve called you?”

“Steve knew me longer. And Steve had a plan.”

Sam rolls his shoulders, a gesture of discomfort. He says, “I have a plan.” Almost like he wanted to say, now, can I call you “Buck,” too? It’s also very illuminating to hear this nickname when Sam’s afraid for Bucky’s life in episode 3:

[Gunshots]

“Buck!” Sam yells.

The nickname shows a deeper level of intimacy between Sam and Bucky, something that Sam wants. That’s why he uses it, remarks on Steve having used it, and continues to use it. 

Sam lets himself argue with Bucky

Again, the keyword here is lets. Sam is a very controlled person. I’ve read numerous posts about all the things that Sam has to deal with - blip, institutionalized racism, Captain America’s mantle, that mantle being given to a lesser suited individual, losing his boat, losing his friends, and losing the connection with his family. Yet, Sam holds himself together very well. He doesn’t break dangerous criminals out of prison (looking at you Bucky), and he tries to follow his values in a world that is making less and less sense to him. 

Yet, with Bucky Barnes, he allows himself the freedom to argue with him. They argue in episode 2 numerous times, but I’m going to focus on the argument in episode 3. I loved that random back-and-forth in the middle of a fight scene. I cannot picture Sam doing something like that with Steve, and he definitely wouldn’t argue like that with anyone else. With Bucky, we see Sam let his guard down to bicker and voice his immediate feelings and thoughts. We don’t see this happen with anyone else! He’s usually more guarded with his true thoughts and emotions.

What does Bucky feel?

Unfortunately, I don’t see clear evidence that Bucky reciprocates his feelings. There’s evidence that some feelings are forming (I have high hopes for the pulling Sam’s hand closer to his chest scene!), and the genuine bond is there. As of now, Sam’s feelings run deeper. It’s understandable because Bucky is a man in transition. He doesn’t know who he is, and we can see that struggle in some small details here and there: for example, when Sam wedges his thigh between his in the therapy scene, Bucky places his hands over his crotch in an insecure position. Sam, on the other hand, is relaxed and secure in his identity. Bucky is still struggling to adjust to the modern world when he’s a 1940s man at heart. Plus, there’s Steve. According to Sharon, Bucky was “Mr. America” (LOL). He needs more time to solidify himself and his feelings.

Where did these feelings come from?

Sexual attraction (sexy and dangerous is Sam’s type)

Bucky is probably the only person in his life who makes sense. Everything else is so different and difficult.

He was Steve’s close friend, and Sam loved and respected Steve.

Bucky ignites his protective instincts. Bucky emphasizes this when he says that Sam gave up so much for him. (Interesting that Bucky doesn’t mention Steve, who wanted to save his best friend and helped to convince his current friend to help him do that.)

Perhaps, Bucky reminds him of Riley (would love to see a Riley flashback)

He feels a connection to the loneliness he sees in Bucky. Despite the people in his life and his natural charisma, Sam strikes me as a solitary figure.

Ultimately, we still know very little about Sam and Bucky, and we have three episodes left of the show, so many things can change! Hopefully, the change will be good for this ship.

I hope you enjoyed this meta. Thank you for reading!

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2020 fic round up!

Now that the last of the exchange fics have been revealed, it’s time for a round up. Which I haven’t actually done in years, but lets face it, I have more time on my hands this year because of Reasons so why not? We are gonna do this chronologically because organising by fandom just seems like work.

Put the Past Away, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 3.4k. another post infinity war/pre-endgame canon divergence get together because I like writing those a lot.

Forever for You, part of the Fireside verse, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 3.9k. a little addition to my Fireside series, the last part of which I will hopefully get finished this year!

Such a Softer Sin, MCU, Steve/Tony, Explicit, 2.2k. a fic written for the smol steve bingo over at the pots server, square: small steve, big dick. which sums up this fic.

Alone Like This, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 7.4k. written for the @cap-ironman fanwork like it’s 2012 fest! canon divergent where steve and tony meet post iron man 2, pre avengers and it goes a lot better.

Got the Love I Need, MCU, Steve/Tony, Explicit, 2.4k. virgin steve is like super desperate to get laid. that’s it.

Through Each Other’s Eyes, Marvel 3490, Steve Rogers/Natasha Stark, Teen, 1k. written for the @cap-ironman tiny reverse bang! steve rogers is embarrassingly in love with his wife. like so much.

Glide Me Towards You, MCU, Steve/Tony, Mature, 6.7k. written for one of @crownofstardustandbone‘s many prompts! canon divergent post endgame old men in love trying to figure out what comes next.

A Little Is Never Enough, MCU, Steve/Tony, Explicit, 3.4k. written for h/c bingo, square: corporal punishment. this is spanking fic, you probably know if you want to read it or not.

Souvenirs and Secrets Shared, MCU, Steve/Tony, Mature, 1.4k. written for the twink tony bingo over at pots, square: lingerie. steve stumbles across some old photos of tony in lingerie.

Wounds Without a Bandage, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 2.5k. written for the twink tony bingo at pots as well, square: whump. also for h/c bingo, square: fighting. au where steve was found and defrosted post howard & maria’s death and has been in tony’s life since then.

Sins Born In a Kiss, MCU, Steve/Tony, Explicit, 3.5k. also written for the twink tony bingo at pots, square: de-aged. tony gets physically de-aged and steve wants to tap that virgin ass.

Your Loss and Your Sorrow, Gone Girl, Margo Dunne & Nick Dunne, Teen, 1k. written for trick or treat. post movie through margo’s eyes.

Salvation In Dreams, MCU, Steve/Tony, Mature, 1.1k. a fill for h/c bingo: gags. tony gets kidnapped.

Love Like a Hunger, MCU, Steve/Tony, Explicit, 1.5k. based on @firulaispng‘s tony as leia art! steve rails tony while tony is in a leia outfit, that’s it.

Hopeless But Still Romantic, Birds of Prey, Harley/Dinah, Teen, 2.5k. written for shipoween! post movie get together for harley & dinah, with some complications along the way because gotham, right?

Taste of Love, MCU, Steve/Pepper/Tony, Explicit, 1.4k. written for shipoween as well! it’s porn, that’s about it.

Taken Back By You, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 2.5k. steve is terrified of babies and tony is excellent with kids and steve has Feelings about that.

Grow Up; Turn the Tables, Clueless, Cher/Josh, Mature, 2.1k. written for yuletide! post movie, cher and josh and how they are several years down the line.

Having You Near, Oceans Movies, Danny/Rusty/Tess and Danny + Debbie, Teen, 1.4k. also written for yuletide! a what if danny isn’t dead and debbie found him hiding out with rusty & tess.

No Place to Go, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen 6.8k. written for the @cap-ironman holiday exchange! post aou canon divergent christmas getting together with all that involves.

Been Alone Here, MCU, Steve/Tony, Teen, 4.5k. also written for the holiday exchange! modern au, no powers. getting back together post addiction and recovery, a little drop of hope in a difficult process.

and that’s it for 2020 fic! to no one’s surprise I posted a lot of stony. also having made this post I remember why I stopped doing round ups, holy shit that took too long, I hope someone appreciates it.

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“My child is completely fine” Your child is still crying over the death of a fictional billionaire superhero from 2 years ago

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“Don’t worry about a thing, Tony.  Everything here is just for you.”

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2,003 Followers!?!? Each and every one of you are amazing and I love you ❤️

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anyway i fucking love being bisexual like good 4 me tbh

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That’s what we call growth 🌸

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mcu stevetony in a nutshell 

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The Phone

Tony is still hurt when the phone arrives in the mail for Tony Stank.

He still has a black eye and a cracked sternum. He also has a broken heart but that doesn’t really matter. Not now anyway.

What matters is that Tony hates the phone.

He hates the fact that Steve has no single idea about how mobile phone systems work.

He hates the color of the phone and the fact that it flips.

He hates Steve’s nonexistent remorse in his apology letter, the gesture, the show off, the fact that Steve thinks he is the bigger person here to apologize and send the most stupid letter in the world.

He hates Steve, for leaving him in Siberia, for taking everyone with him and for breaking them apart and even more than that he hates himself.

But above all he hates the stupid phone.

(Later that night after the escape of the former Avengers from the raft prison is confirmed, and with a few too many whiskies in his system, he throws the phone right against the wall.

He might have then run his fingers over the stupid old fashioned handwriting of the letter, specially the “O”s, before passing out.

He must have then woken up in the middle of the night to get the pieces of the phone from across the room and put them back together, because when he wakes up again in the morning the phone is on his nightstand in one piece.

He also finds the letter at the foot of his bed, crumpled into a small ball.

He turns the phone on.)

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He locks himself up in the fancy room, fancy ward, holds onto the phone and asks FRIDAY to play the Siberia fight.

This is the last time he has seen Steve but he is wearing the fucking stupid mask. If Tony knew this would be the last time, he would’ve at least tried to take that shock proof mask off his head, and watched his beautiful face as Steve was raising the shield to break the arc reactor.

He would have watched that sweaty forehead and those desperate eyes and maybe somehow if he squinted enough he could imagine that Steve’s straddling him for a totally different reason.

He hates himself so much for not removing the mask.

He hates himself even more for wanting to see his face that badly.

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(Tony presses his nose to Steve’s beard because Steve now has a beard.)

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Read on ao3 .

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by waywardshifts

Steve Rogers is a war veteran with a secret, Tony Stark is Iron man, Bruce Banner just wants to go home, James “ Bucky ” Barnes is confused , Thor Odinson wants pop tarts and Clint Barton is a little shit. Love . Laughter and hijinks are the status quo for this weird group of people .

Words: 120, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Marvel (Comics), The Avengers (Marvel Movies), Avengers Assemble (Cartoon)

Rating: Explicit

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: M/M

Characters: Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, James “Bucky” Barnes, Bruce Banner, Thor (Marvel)

Relationships: Steve Rogers/Tony Stark, James “Bucky” Barnes/Clint Barton, Bruce Banner/Thor

Additional Tags: Mutual Pining, Eventual Romance, Drama & Romance, Tony Stark Has A Heart, Protective Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner & Tony Stark Friendship, Bucky Barnes Is a Good Bro, Awesome Clint Barton