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Elain pt 2 🩷💐🌷💐🩷

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They seriously do not understand reading... imagery. IMAGERY. Gwyn being a priestess is not religious IMAGERY. It is a simple fact.

Elain is not a literal fawn. Azriel is not literally death. Nesta is not literal lady death. Cassian is not literally a lord of bloodshed. Feyre is not literally stars eternal. Rhys is not literal night triumphant. It is figurative language. IMAGERY. The ship titles are all poetic and symbolic.

Gwyn is a literal priestess.

So no, there is not a single ounce of religious imagery surrounding Az and Gwyn. There is no religious imagery surrounding Azriel either. He did just LITERALLY question his religion over Elain.

They’re going to read this and still not comprehend what you’re saying.

I think antis just struggle with metaphors and imagery in general. The whole gwynriel are mates came from not being able to differentiate a metaphor from a literal thing thats happening.

They’re arguing over nothing. No one wants that corny, lame title that belongs to a badly written fanfic. We’re just pointing out how its not canon at all and makes no sense for Gwynriel.

Their week must rlly be boring them if they’re getting feisty over this tbh

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Hey there! You know what I don’t get — the GA claim to love Gwyn so much and many of them are not happy with Azriel’s POV, at least the first half. So then why are ship her (supposed amazing, savior of Pyrthian) with Azriel? Why not someone like Tarquin, who is also on paper, pretty perfect? Why change the entire narrative of ACOTAR when you don’t truly like half your ship? Same goes with Elucien. None of this makes sense to me. It’s weird.

I’ve asked myself the same question and I think that deep down it all goes back to Elain hatred.

In their eyes, and this truly IS inexplicable, the animosity towards Elain is so great that anything ‘good’ that she could possibly get has to be destroyed.

I truly don’t think that they give a fuck about Gwyn. Or even who azriel ends up with. They secretly hate him for liking Elain anyway. But as long as Elain doesn’t get what she wants, they are satisfied.

I think they feel like she’s grown too big for her britches. How dare she desire the handsome and mysterious Azriel? Her date—Lucien—was given to her and the ungrateful bitch dares to want something else.

Funny but I don’t think they’d like it if Elain simple said ‘yes’ to Lucien either. I can absolutely guarantee that if that happened, they’d hate her even more. Because now she can’t be blamed for much. So they’ll find ways to denigrate her—she didn’t suffer enough! She just got a wonderful mate without suffering for it! She doesn’t deserve him! He is too good for her!

So it’s really not about Gwynriel or Bryceriel or anything like that. It’s ultimately about Elain and taking something that she wants or likes away from her.

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You know what’s fucked up? That Elain’s potential book is treated like the end of the world. I’ve seen people say they’ll burn the book if it’s hers, others admit they don’t want her story because god forbid they actually end up liking her, and I've even seen a video of someone full-on screaming at the thought that the next ACOTAR might be Elain’s. It’s insane. This fandom cheers for messy, abusive males but completely loses their minds at the thought of a quiet girl who likes to garden and bake getting a POV

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The Azriel-looking-out-the-window thing really is so funny though because like.

There is no reason to tell us about that window so many times. In the same moment.

Like yeah, we get it, there's a window - - why do we need so much detail about it? Why do we need to know it's the ONE window in the room? Why do we need to know it's looking out at THE GARDEN. Why can't Azriel seem to look away from it?

Writers don't tend to do that type of shit for no reason.

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sometimes I think about Sarah writing 3(?) times in one chapter how Azriel was staring out the window of his bedroom that faced the gardens.

it’s like she’s banging you over the head with the fact that he is intently looking out the window. at the gardens. why would she write that multiple times if it wasn’t significant?? what (or WHO) could be capturing his attention so much that she chooses to mentions when he “finally turned” from whatever he was looking at????

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“I can’t stand to be in the same room as her(Elain) for more than two minutes. - Lucien

“It was three by the time the others went to bed.(…..) Azriel and Elain remained in the sitting room, my sister showing him the plans she’d sketched to expand the garden in the back of the town house, using the seeds and tools my family had given her tonight.”

SAME BOOK (within 28 pages)

Look at the clear and purposeful juxtaposition we get between Elucien and Elriel.

You look at that and you tell me which relationship the author is writing as romantic and endgame.

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I think there are a couple of things in Prythian that really stand out as places where something has gone wrong:

"There are no High Ladies" - - the magic always choosing men despite the fact that we have extremely powerful fae women? That's not natural, that's meddled with somehow. Likely directly tied to whatever corruption was done to the Cauldron as a way to control magical inheritance

The mating bond "choosing wrong," again likely tied to the corruption of the Cauldron. The fact that we have some very different bonds that have very different impacts (the fulfilling, soul-tied type mating bond we see with our main couples vs. the mating bonds of Rhys's parents, etc). This seems wrong in itself, but then tie in the fact that mating bonds in other (directly connected) worlds don't work this way and something seems even MORE wrong.

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I actually think it's deeply interesting that the mating bond as it works in Prythian is so deeply heteronormative, mainly because I think it's that way on purpose (in the sense that there's something wrong with it and it's not supposed to be working the way that it is). The fact that we have queer couples in ACOTAR, we have characters who are pretty clearly lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, etc, but the mating bond as it stands in Prythian is between males and females? That's weird. That's wrong.

And the mating bond in other worlds, even one directly connected so deeply that the fae are Prythian-descended, don't work that way! There's something wrong with Prythian's mating bond! Whatever it is in its true form isn't meant to be this weird reproductive drive!

And we're essentially TOLD THAT in the crossover chapter!

THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE MATING BONDS IN PRYTHIAN!

And who best to take up the threads of that story?

The woman with a mating bond she doesn't want!

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Elain Archeron Week 2025

There are only 14 days until @elainarcheronweek!

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We can't wait to See (👀🔮) everyone celebrating our favorite flower faerie with art, fics, mood boards, theories - you name it!

If you need a reminder of the details, please read this.

But most of all please remember to have fun!

Art by runamareuty, comm by elain_kingslayer

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Begging the ACOTAR fandom to read literally any other genre it’s important to challenge your ideals and read from other POVs

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That bluiea chick is a known troll. All she does is screenshot elriel posts and talk about Elriel. She was even the one that was sending anons to the Elriel accounts for a while. I wouldn’t listen or worry about anything she says

I’ve never interacted with this account before today but I have several anons saying the same thing. I’ve always just deleted them bc I don’t care to get lost in the minutia and swamp of this fandom.

What’s interesting is the “reverse psychology” behind posting a meta on the psychological analysis under the credential of a minor in psych and then accusing a licensed psychologist, who provides clinical care, of trolling for correcting the misinformation.

Have at it analyzing characters in fiction but to make such grandiose statements about a group of irl people on the basis of 20 or less credit hours is just weird. And to feign victimhood when somebody who is actually credentialed says- this isn’t actually empirically based…is something.

Didn’t tag this person after being sent that post, in the Elain tag, mind you. Didn’t tag inappropriately. But I’m getting tagged and my credentials attacked, being called a ‘pick me’ bc I corrected misinformation without even personally directing something at said person.

This is what existing in this fandom as an elriel perpetually feels like. It doesn’t matter what we do. What we say. If you defend facts, canon, or yourself (or Elriels, in general), no matter the catalyst- it’s always you who is the bully. It’s you who is the mean one. It’s you who is the problem. I won’t even say the psychological buzzword for what this is.

And this is partly why I have stayed out of the fandom for extended periods of time. It’s all futile. It doesn’t matter what the truth is. Opinions and interpretations are as good facts/canon. So there’s never a way to “win” or even be heard.

The intention is also never well-meaning. It’s baiting.

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i always find that headcanon that gwyn would officiate elriel's wedding so funny because i know if that happened gwynriels would crash out real hard ahskksk

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In the ACOTAR fandom you can bring up canon scenes, screenshot them and highlight for proof, believe in a couple that have actively expressed romantic interest in each other and still be called delusional and that you lack reading comprehension

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No hate, but Elain is as deep as a saucer. Why do people care who she ends up with? And it's not about her being feminine and delicate. There are characters like that who can be interesting. But she lacks the motivations and goals to be the focal point of a book. If her romance developed as a secondary character, it would work just as well. Will she have to choose between two handsome men fighting over her? This is so repetitive; we've already had other books on this saturated theme. I think the author uses this old formula because she knows that even if the books are bad, they'll still sell. Like After. But this whole shipwar is so boring, and it's escalated to a level that, for a series made for adults, is childish. The Binita girl will have to choose between two conveniently attractive (masculine?) standard men. What does it matter? What changes from the other repeated love triangles? What's so appealing about her ending up with one or the other? What's the relevance? What does it add? I don't see a reason why it matters. It's just the typical repeated love triangle. I imagine Elain is shallow enough for readers to self-insert themselves into her during the smut, I suppose. I don't see any other points.

baby girl is a fucking SEER and y’all really think we just want her story for the smut 😭😭😭😭

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You know what I hate? How gwynriels have stolen the bonus chapter that was 100% about elriel. That BC of Azriel's was one of the most tension-filled and intense romantic and sexual scenes Sjm has ever written, and it was Elriel's. And yet, gwynriel's have stolen it, bastardised it, and made it seem like that bc is somehow a problem for elriel or the start of something else. That bc is the elriel Bc. It is blatant confirmation of elriel. Of just how intensely Azriel wants Elain and how ready Elain is to actually do what her heart wants. When sjm said there are breadcrumbs, the breadcrumbs are Azriel's behaviour all throughout acosf. He can't hide his emotions whenever elain is mentioned. He has a "secret" that Nesta has figures out. And that is his feelings for Elain. And Elain's feelings for him. Which are all confirmed in the bc. This is one of the things I hate the most. That gwynriela have ruined that bc. That bc is the elriel bc. It is a beautiful scene between elain and azriel and it is confirmation that elriels have read the books exactly as Sjm intended.

They made it all about Gwynriel when it was simply setting up elriel in the same way Sjm did with Nessian. I think whats really frustrating is that the gwynriel part of the bonus is exaggerated to be more meaningful then it really is whilst the elriel part is purposefully misconstrued so that people can pretend the ship has ended. It hasn’t.

And you just know, Sjm was probably giggling and blushing whilst writing the elriel part which parallels the tension between so many other couples RhunLidia in HOFAS being one. Sjm was so excited to finally write steamy Az and this is what the fandom does all because it was with Elain. Not whoever they wanted it to be.

those familiar with the romance genre and other Sjm books know that the bc didnt end elriel. It didnt show how toxic elriel were. It simply confirmed everything the books hinted at.

A really good way to know that your interpretation of the bonus was correct is if that interpretation is backed by canon, and only elriels’ interpretation can do that. The breadcrumbs are backed by canon for elriel. It doesn’t do so for Gwynriel. The bonus meant to show Gwynriel were mates? Ok, where is the breadcrumb for that in acosf? There is none.

The bonus was there to show us that everything Az is going through in acosf, all comes back to Elain. Both main characters notice elriel, neither notice Gwynriel. The bonus is there to confirm the readers suspicions of what is happening with elriel.

They’ve ruined it with claims and interpretations that are not canonically based. Everything they have said against elriel thats rooted in the bonus is disproved by the books and the bonus itself - they either act oblivious to it or just aren’t able to connect dots.

The bonus was beautiful for elriel. It confirmed their steamy attraction. It confirmed elriels’ theories that Elain and Az are maybe mates. It introduces tension with the blood duel and bond rejection. It shows how down bad Az is for his girl which every romance reader goes feral for. It shows us what Azriels arc will be about (his insecurities and self worth) which is normal for a mmc in the romance genre. It confirms Gwyn has sus powers.

Elriels should be giddy over it but instead we have to disprove antis’ claims that perpetuate hate for the elriel ship.