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did anyone ever make a full compilation of kishimoto/naruto-related interiews?

I think I did find a long list of interviews after searching for it once. On tumblr tho I don’t think so but there are posts on here going over some of them.

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I am just 120 episodes into Naruto but I've been plagued by this for a while so whatever.

Is Naruto x Sasuke gay on purpose or gay on accident? I think the answer is weird mix of both. Naruto is a story for a teenage male demographic and WSJ manga are geared towards appealing to masculinity. Masculinity as a trait in men is often a performance for men. Men don't try to seek the approval of any other gender for their masculinity. Other genders, primarily women, are accessories to increase masculinity but that is not who has the final say that matters in terms of true masculinity because [deep sigh.......] we live in a patriarchy, you get the drill.

The existence of women as accessory means their opinions, thoughts, contributions are just as frivolous in the eyes of this masculinity performance and they therefore recede into the background. This, on top of general misogyny and patriarchal beliefs leads to women and anyone of any other gender to straight up vanish from the story. They are insignificant, therefore their relationship with the men are also insignificant.

Naruto's entire premise is built on outperforming masculinity against each other. The Shinobi world values power, only men and boys are allowed to be powerful because "girls are weak and don't have the same amount of drive to push themselves as the booooooysss doooo".

Naruto and Sasuke's bickering rivalry is at the center of it all. Combat and power is acknowledgement. The story is so, beautiful in how it doesn't even try to pretend to be bigger than this. Strength gives you power, agency, respect, love, anything a man can want, even the leadership over a whole village! Combat prowess and power are therefore the only means by which people, more specifically the boys and men of this show communicate.

Naruto wants to get stronger not to impress Sakura. No, no, she's obviously secondary, her affection is the prize. Naruto ACTUALLY wants to get stronger to beat Sasuke. Not just beat him, to get him to acknowledge his masculinity. This isn't a gay thing, this is just how guys interact irl. They put on a whole performance where they act like they feel nothing around their guy friends when you know you saw that dude acting very different with the girls and the gays and the theys.

BUT. But if Naruto(the show) was just this, the homosexual subtext underlying Naruto and Sasuke wouldn't exist. Nay. There is more. While all of this is accidental subconscious systematic things working to shape their relationship, there is a deeply intentional aspect as well.

Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is the only thing that matters. Their bond is deep, profound, they acknowledge each other and they are the reason they have each gained that ever-coveted power.

More importantly, the emotions, the gushy-mushy totally manly bro trust me feelings are only verbalized and acknowledge with one another. I've heard Kishimoto wrote this story to center around the ways in which these two support one another, guide one another. They are the emotional crux, the heart.

You perform masculinity for this one guy and one guy only, you feel anything real only with this guy. What do you get? ROMANTIC TENSION. Intentional or not, the extent of it can vary however much but this is how you do it. It doesn't matter if you didn't know the recipe to making cake crepe and accidentally made pancakes. You've got a fucking pancake. Naruto and Sasuke's relationship accidentally stumbled right into a romantic dynamic from the get-go. Idc about author intentionality and what the man and his editors have said (death of the author yada yada). The text of Naruto is just, this.

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it’s frustrating how some people deny the clear predatory subtext in orochimaru’s obsession with sasuke. it’s right there in the text, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

starting with the curse mark, it’s literally an ownership contract. it’s placed on sasuke’s neck, a symbolic and literal form of control. later, it’s revealed the curse mark could take away sasuke’s free will. orochimaru is forcing sasuke to seek him out.

now think about orochimaru biting sasuke’s neck. it’s violent and intimate, followed by sasuke screaming in so much pain. his body is being violated, changed against his will. this is not something sasuke willingly subjected himself to. it’s abuse, plain and simple.

orochimaru’s conversation with anko shows his taunting nature. he implies anko is jealous of his interest in sasuke, while also commenting on sasuke’s beauty. talking about sasuke’s body in such a context isn’t innocent, it’s clearly possessive and uncomfortable.

orochimaru refers to himself as a predator multiple times and refers to sasuke as “prey” and as “his”, showing possessiveness. and talks about being interested in his young body.

sasuke’s discomfort is clear throughout the series. he tries to keep the curse mark a secret to avoid worrying others. and in part 2 he is seen sleeping with shoes on, as if he was ready to flee at any point in time.

even with all of this, there are still people who claim sasuke was willingly groomed. they ignore the abuse he’s enduring. his body, his autonomy, all violated. it’s mind-boggling to hear people excuse it.

orochimaru’s behavior is even more disturbing when you look at how he’s drawn. he licks his lips in many scenes while talking about sasuke, which makes even kabuto shudder. the subtext is clear: his attraction is disturbing, and it’s there in the text.

sasuke isn’t the only one targeted by orochimaru’s grooming. there's kimimaro, kabuto and team taka. karin also bears bite marks on her body and chest, implying a pattern of sexual abuse. it’s intentional characterization of orochimaru as a predator.

many fans outwardly deny and challenge orochimaru pedophile subtext despite often being the same ones making unfunny rape jokes about orochimaru and sasuke. they disregard this as him only wanting to possess sasuke's body as a vessel but it's clear there was more to it.

the openings and endings team really tried to drive the point home with their animations showing how clearly predatory the relationship is. sasuke is seen mostly naked when around orochimaru, it’s creepy and unsettling.

the manipulation, coercion, and violation of sasuke’s autonomy are not hidden or unclear, they are an essential part of orochimaru’s character and his relationship with sasuke. while some may downplay it as "just interpretation," the text itself is clear. kishimoto's writing reflects orochimaru's predatory behavior and dismissing it as mere "subtext" seems like an attempt to sanitize the uncomfortable truths in the story.

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Never forget.

Forgive.

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Dark and twisted also like him though

i dont understand how people hate naruto the boy i think if you harbor negative feelings towards naruto the boy that indicates something dark and twisted about your personality

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Instead of respecting the village's goal of uniting the Senju and Uchiha clan, they lured the Uchiha into a false partnership then destroyed them.

The clan wanted to believe in peace, extended a friendly hand and go it severed, as well as ending gutted.

Any normal person who sees that Konoha was spying on the Uchiha in the filler episodes: The village doesn't even respect their privacy and moved them to the edge of the village to facilitate their annihilation.

The Shippers: So cute, Itachi watching Izumi from the Anbu tower, so romantic.🥰🥰🥰

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Sure

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IF I WANTED BARBECUED KITCHEN I'D KATON IT MYSELF, MORON

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// Perfection

Merry Christmas from Santa Hiruzen and 2 somewhat distrustful Uchiha babies! Thanks for all the support this year!

Looking for a belated gift? Ko-Fi!

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Good thing I blew one up

naruto has two hands for a reason (one for sasuke and one for gaara)

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AGAIN?

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// If you don't have friends... You're screwed. And that's what Naruto figured out earlier than Sasuke did. It's about bonds, not love.

When Madara, Obito and Itachi screw up, it's the whole Uchiha clan that's "genetically bad". But when half the Senju and their pupils become dictators, nobody says anything.

When Tsunade deserts she is left alone and Jiraiya seeks her out to become Hokage. But when Sasuke does it he is called "as bad as Orochimaru" by Jiraiya.

When Shikamaru seeks revenge, he pays tribute to Asuma and Team 7 supports him. But when Sasuke does it he's immature and Team 7 want him to give up his revenge.

When a ninja joins the akatsuki, he is left alone. But when Sasuke does it, he's hunted down to be killed.

When Karin joins the akatsuki, attacks a jinchuriki and infiltrates the Kage summit, Sakura takes pity on her. But when Sasuke does it he must be eliminated by her.

I'm beginning to see a pattern.

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// Sakura meta

Sakura Haruno is not a bad character per say. When she's 12, she acts, well. Like a 12 year old. A normal 12 years old girl in an epic fantasy about magic kid soldiers.

She has average parents, good grades, a shallow understanding of grief and love... She's very normal, which reads as plain while compared to Sasuke (the tragic lone Avenger trope) or Naruto (the succeed against all-odds underdog trope).

Sakura is... the reader's foil. She's us. The average smart kid, with typical annoying yet well meaning parents, a crush on the popular boy, petty feuds with frienemies, and no bigger ambitions than most.

Some people like her a lot, probably because she's an easy self insert into the Naruto universe.

I like her because she's a kid, and I have a soft spot for kids.

However, the story puts too much or too little emphasis on her character, which makes her hard to handle.

Too little : as compared to her teammates, who have complex backstories, storylines and character development.

Too much : as compared to her teammates, who carry the plot, her interventions are on part with small side characters, and seems neigher useful nor earned.

And also... she's not us. Not all of us. Because it's easier for me to relate to Sasuke's self-destructive yearning for perfection than to her feud with Ino. Because I can't understand casting a friend aside for a crush when I, like Naruto, didn't have any friends. Because Sakura is relatable to normal children, with normal upbringings... So not to every kid.

Naruto is a good power fantasy for some readers, Sakura a good self-insert for others... But some of us relate to them in different ways. To me, as to Sasuke, Sakura was the lucky girl who whinned about having good parents and had no goal in life.

The lucky girl. A lucky child.

For some of us, it's easy to despise characters who have that and still find a way to shit on it.

However, Sakura is not a bad person. She's a bad character, who would shine in another plot, with less complex protagonists.

So the issue is... she's "just a girl". In a land of magical child soldiers.

Perhaps not so lucky as a character, uh.

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// Naruto didn't feel worthy of becoming Sasuke's friend... And Sasuke couldn't help liking him and wanting to protect that doof.

At the very end, Naruto finally felt worthy, because Sasuke decided to yield. A guy who won't quit is a friend that might not betray or abandon him.

Naruto was extremely scared to fight back these ninjas before leaving for the Land of the Waves...

This is the first time Naruto has seen Sasuke's abilities outside of the academy and Sasuke's fighting skills against an enemy. Seeing this…Naruto was expressing his amazement or admiration towards him. [スゲェ = sugee = awesome; wow; impressive; incredible; great; excellent]. It's a fact that Naruto always admired and respected Sasuke's physical strength.

Naruto admired the way Sasuke used his abilities to protect him without even getting a speck of dust [汚れ(yogore) =dirt; stain; dust] on his clothes. And he clearly felt the difference between Sasuke's attitude and his own.

Sasuke protects Naruto from the enemy ninjas without restraint and teases him on top of that. This hurts Naruto because he hates being different from Sasuke i.e being Weak.... and this solidifies his resolve to be brave.

Since Naruto was poisoned, and that Tazuna lied about the mission type, the only logical thing to do was to return to the village and seek treatment for Naruto, which would cause Naruto to abandon an unexpected B-rank mission that he did everything he could in order to achieve it. He became the center of talk of abandoning the mission as he failed to respond in the fight and was injured.

Right after that, Naruto stabbed a kunai into his wrist… Sasuke was stunned to see this.

And his frustration was explained by Naruto himself...

But despite having a physical discomfort, Naruto was determined on continuing the mission. The act of not giving up.

Because of this act, Sasuke did this:

He ended up walking next to him. This scene & the kunai scene also ended up in Sasuke's treasured memories. But at this moment, Naruto doesn't feel Equal. Sasuke wanted to walk next to Naruto and become close to him, while Naruto felt like a loser because Sasuke saved him right before this scene. That's why Naruto was behaving like this because he was extremely frustrated at not being able to catch up to Sasuke.

And when the situation came up again… Naruto was trying to run away… again.

But then remembered the promise he made on the pain in his left hand. The promise he made to himself about not losing to Sasuke. That's when he decided to fight back.

Sasuke was the one who taught Naruto to not Run away... And...Not to mention, Naruto's entire Physical Strength was always revolved around Sasuke in some ways...

It's always about he wanted to catch up to Sasuke rather than surpass him. Even though they were united by loneliness, Naruto hates being different from Sasuke. Maybe he thought something like: "If I can be equal with Sasuke, I can be like him....then we can actually be true friends and hang out with him as equals..."

He made him his Rival, because he was frustrated that they are different. He trained harder to become his equal. But even after they were put together in Team 7, this feeling of difference hasn't changed. But In reality, he always wanted to be like him.

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// Saw this post, had to draw it.

@cubur Silly SNS to try cheering you up! Told you it wouldn’t be as good as your drawings, especially since watching a toddler isn’t not super compatible with… anything, really 😅

Anyway, I think about your cat a lot, hope they’ll be okay, and you too.

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Yes.

Gay?

Yes.

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Also, Kakashi, wtf?

And there was only one bed!!!!

Sequel to this one