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sharks-language-sideblog · 3 days ago
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Language Journal/lipu tenpo toki - 2
Please correct me/o pona e mi
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I have toki pona on the mind and it will. not. leave. So i'm gonna try to translate "You Are my Sunshine," cos it's an easy song & i've already done it in Haida :)
You are my sunshine My only sunshine You make me happy, when skies are grey You'll never know dear How much I love you Please don't take my sunshine away The other night dear, as I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms When I awoke dear I was mistaken So I hung my head and I cried
toki pona
mi pilin taso e toki pona, en toki pona taso li pilin e mi. kama la mi lukin pi ante toki e kalama musi "You Are my Sunshine" tan ni kalama musi ni li pilin pona en tenpo pini la mi ante toki e ni pi toki Kata
sina mi suno sina mi suno wan tenpo ike pi sijelo kasi la sina kama mi pilin pona tenpo ala la sina sona e olin mute mi o tawa ala
tenpo lape pini la mi lape ijo lape mi la mi jo luka e sina mi open e lukin mi sona e lon ala mi anpa e lawa en mi telo lukin
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sharks-language-sideblog · 4 days ago
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Language Journal/Journal Langue/Kíl Journal/lipu tenpo toki - 1
Something i thought of while i was procrastinating — i may have taken this from something, please lmk if you recognize the idea, this is just based on the common language-learning tip to use your languages daily. I'm gonna really try to do this consistently — some days it may just be a single word, others i may do something longer. I'm not doing all my languages, rather whichever focuses i feel like working on. Feel free to follow along, and thank you so much for checking out my blog :>
((Also note that i've edited the date of this because i am lazyyy and don't wanna put in the work to catch up. Trust, it's actually gonna be daily after this, i'm just not editing this any more after this because Haida translations are HARDDD))
Please correct me/s'il vous plaît me corriger/k'wáa, díi hl ḵʼáng'uu/o pona e mi
EN
I've had this song stuck in my head for the large majority of camp this weekend.
Who are we? Singing along the road, with a pack on our backs, a song in our hearts, to ease the load? It's been a hundred years or more since we travelled through the dark, and we're coming along, singing our song, as ever we did before.
We are Guides, all Guides, and in unexpected places You'll see our friendly faces and a ready hand besides There's not much danger in finding you're a stranger for Commissioner or Ranger, we are Guides, all Guides
FR
J'aurais cette chanson dans ma tête pour bcp de camp ce weekend.
Qui sommes-nous? Chantant dans la rue, avec un sac sur nos dos, un chanson dans nos cœurs, pour alléger la charge? Il fait cent ans ou plus depuis nous avons traversé le noir, et nous allons, chantant notre chanson, comme toujours
Nous sont Guides, tous Guides, et dans les endroits imprévus Tu rencontras nos visages amicaux et un main prêt en plus Il y a pas bcp de danger à découvrir que tu es un étranger pour Commissionaire ou Ranger, nous sont Guides, tous Guides
HAI
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sharks-language-sideblog · 29 days ago
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A few things i made in Haida
These are all gonna be subpar, imperfect, and please don't try to learn with this ((i have a separate post on learning resources)), these are just some things i posted in a Discord server that i figured are relevant to share here :) I'm not a native Haida speaker, nor am i Haida — please scrutinize my stuff and correct me :D
Díi blog dáng líidadaang sang hláa kíl láagang!
KINSHIP TREE
https://familyecho.com/?p=START&c=d8v8dmci76ht3hgj&f=679431091333727444&lang=en
A tree i've been making based on Alaskan Haida resources around – it's a work-in-progress, and also isn't perfect; corrections & suggestions are appreciated.
YOU ARE MY SUNSHINE
Díi an dáng xayáagang Díi an sg-waan xayáagang Sáng dag-angaang dluu, dáng eehl díi 'láagang Dagwáang, dáng díi kuyáada g-usdláang dáng únsiidang'anggang K'wáay xáy isd'ánggang Dagwáang, g-áalgwaa díi k-'adgán dluu, xyáang g-ahl dáng díi gijgad k-ánggan Díi skíngan dluu, díi yahk'íi'anggang Díi k-wahk'ahldgán 'wáagyaan díi sg-áyhla
Dashes are underlined letters, because that underlined 'g' is dang hard to type.
I swear there was more!! I have some other things i've been working on that i'll add at some point. The method i have here isn't the best, but it's what has to work with what little resources there are when learning an endangered language.
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sharks-language-sideblog · 5 months ago
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All the Haida Resources I Can Find
Foreward
I am not an expert by any means, just a language enthusiast. Please correct me if i get anything wrong here, if any of these resources are not reliable, etc. If you come across any others, please inform me. I don't bite & i appreciate any help :> I am not Indigenous, and definitely not fluent, so i am not an authority on anything. If any Haida folks have an issue with anything on this post or blog, lmk. /gen
That out of the way, hello! I'm Shark, i love languages and i'm studying Haida. As with many other endangered languages, i find resources difficult to find for this language, so i'm compiling here the ones i like and can find, and explaining them a bit, so that the language is easier to pick up for those interested. It took me awhile to even start with learning because of this, and I wanted to make it easier for potential learners. Gíijgwaa x̱aad kíl dáng sḵ'at'áang!
Table of Contents:
Foreward
Table of Contents
Important Notes
Skidegate
Masset
Alaskan
(kinda) Important Notes:
Haida has 3 dialects, Skidegate, Masset, and Alaskan. Official Canadian sites are most likely to focus on Skidegate and Masset, as those dialects are from Haida Gwaii ((part of Canada)), and official Alaskan/American sites are most likely to focus on Alaskan, as that dialect is from Prince of Wales Island ((part of Alaska)). From my experience, resources are most plentiful on Alaskan Haida ((mostly as a result of the Sealaska Heritage Institute, the SHI)).
Especially if you're not as familiar with linguistic terms, I would highly recommend starting with Lachler's grammar handbook, and practicing with the Alaskan Haida dictionary/phrasebook. That should give you enough of a basic understanding of the language to be able to decode Haida resources elsewhere. If you get only one thing from this post, that is to use Lachler's grammar handbook.
I'm Sharkthe_cat on Discord and Sharkthe-cat on Tumblr, message me!! I've been really looking for someone to study with, whether you're just starting out or already have a strong basis of the language. I can give you tips that will make your process a little more streamlined than mine was.
The best way to learn the language would be to take a course at a university, take the immersion program, find real world speakers, or otherwise, but that's not always an option (and isn't for me). The resources online are limited, but to work with what you've got can get you pretty far.
Skidegate:
https://www.firstvoices.com/hlgaagilda-xaayda-kil
The first voices page for Skidegate Haida. Fantastic for practice, some words & phrases, pronunciation, i love this site.
[Enrico's Haida dictionary]
I forgot where I found this as a PDF, but I would recommend this nonetheless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haida_language
Can be a great resource, especially for phonology, but can again be difficult to decipher if you're unfamiliar with linguistics terms.
https://www.haidanation.ca/category/language/
Probably has some extra resources, i haven’t looked. This i believe is a site for Haida Gwaii specifically, and therefore likely only has stuff for Skidegate + Masset Haida.
https://www.haidanation.ca/language/xaad-kil/
Scroll down to find a pdf outlining both Masset and Skidegate Haida!! I just found this and haven't gone through everything yet, but this seems fantastic.
https://www.facebook.com/skidegatehaidaimmersionprogram/#
The facebook page for SHIP, the Skidegate Haida Immersion Program. They have a great newsletter with some awesome resources.
https://archive.org/details/skidegatehaidamy0000unse
What it says on the tin: Skidegate Haida myths and histories. Great for learning because the translations are intentionally direct.
https://archive.org/details/daa_galangsding_0000brow
What seems to be in Skidegate Haida, a book i found whilst looking through the Haida language tag in Archive.org. I haven't read it yet, but it seems good.
https://haidalanguage.blogspot.com/
A great many resources and
Masset:
https://www.firstvoices.com/xaad-kil-massett
The first voices page for Masset Haida. Fantastic for practice, some words & phrases, pronunciation, i love this site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haida_language
Can be a great resource, especially for phonology, but can again be difficult to decipher if you're unfamiliar with linguistics terms.
https://www.haidanation.ca/category/language/
Probably has some extra resources, i haven’t looked. This i believe is a site for Haida Gwaii specifically, and therefore likely only has stuff for Skidegate + Massett Haida.
[Enrico's Haida dictionary]
I forgot where I found this as a PDF, but I would recommend this nonetheless.
https://www.haidanation.ca/language/xaad-kil/
Scroll down to find a pdf outlining both Masset and Skidegate Haida!! I just found this and haven't gone through everything yet, but this seems fantastic.
https://haidalanguage.blogspot.com/
A great many resources and the like.
Alaskan:
http://www.haidalanguage.org/
Has some info on Alaskan Haida & very basic grammar.
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/Mega%20linguistics%20pack/North%20American/Other/Haida%20Handbook%20Level%201%20%28Lachler%29.pdf
Alaskan Haida grammar handbook. My lord and saviour, the best thing to ever exist. This is an overview of basic Haida grammar and is amazing, and is singlehandedly the one thing that helped me actually start learning.
https://sealaskaheritage.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Haida_dictionary_web.pdf
Alaskan Haida dictionary. Sooo great it shows what types of words they are, conjugations, precisely how they are used (("S talked to O" vs "S talked")), phenomenal resource. I use this alongside my notes from the grammar handbook below to practice forming sentences.
https://sealaskaheritage.org/alaskan-native-language-learners/shi-southeast-alaskan-native-language-learning-teaching-resources/
For Alaskan Haida, SHI has many of the resources i've mentioned before, alongside many more. Their YouTube also has some videos that explain some phrases and such.
[Enrico's Haida dictionary]
I forgot where I found this as a PDF, but I would recommend this nonetheless.
/ John Enrico’s Haida Syntax, volumes 1 + 2
This is a physical book. Great if you’re able to decipher linguistics terms, as i believe it goes through everything. Enrico has some other Haida books that i can't find online.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haida_language
Can be a great resource, especially for phonology, but can again be difficult to decipher if you're unfamiliar with linguistics terms.
https://sealaskaheritage.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/AlaskanHaidaPhrasebook_web.pdf
Alaskan Haida phrasebook. I don't use this as much, but I should. This is fun for "deciphering" the phrases using your knowledge & the Alaskan Haida dictionary.
[Alaskan Haida apps mostly from the SHI]
These are fantastic on the go, and are great for learning the sounds of the language.
http://haidalanguage.org/AKL107/
Seemingly the online component of a Haida course in 2009. Seems very descriptive, but i haven't gone through everything yet. This doesn't cover everything regarding Haida, but it goes through a lot & has practices.
https://www.youtube.com/@learninghaida
A vlogging account about both the Haida language & culture.
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sharks-language-sideblog · 10 months ago
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Intro?
Hiii, i'm (Shark/Tibu/[jan/soweli/waso] Seki), i've had this idea for a hot second ((Inspired by language-madness i think they're called?)). I loveee languages & linguistics and all that, but my main blog (Sharkthe-cat) is mainly fandom content. So this is specifically dedicated to language-learning.
What might you find here? I don't really know! But here are some guesses:
Notes that might help put two and two together for a language you're learning.
Notes that i can actually read ((my language-learning book is very unorganized)).
Resources i find helpful, particularly for endangered languages like Haida.
Notes + learning methods from my classes.
Reblogs of language-related things.
Maybe some posts regarding understanding colloquial English or something?
Languages (not all of these are languages. in alphabetic order):
[Levantine] Arabic (heritage, focus), ASL, English (native), French, Biblical Greek, [Skidegate] Haida, Halkomelem, Biblical Hebrew, Inuktitut, Irish (heritage), Italian, Korean, Mandarin, Polari, Polish, Spanish, Tagalog, Toki Pona, Vietnamese
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