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I hope you know supporting abusers shows more about your incel personality anything else ever could. I’m genuinely horrified that this isn’t satire. I hope you get help from the online conditioning /gen.

Have you got any idea of how much evidence is against him from MULTIPLE witnesses to his behaviour. And the fact he even refuses to address it shows he just wants to brush it under the rug. Leave Shelby alone. You all act like you’re personally affected by this shit. It’s all parasocial behaviour. You’re like 13. Please stop wasting your teenage years defending a proven abuser/aggressive manipulator who does not give a shit about you and clearly never did. You have your whole life to live kid, I hope you grow out of this and realise just how deep you are in this madness.

(it’s been like a year too. It’s 2025)

Bold of you to assume my age, and you too need to shut up abt the whole shelby vs wilbur shit. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Don't call me a kid, and Wilbur was not proven to be an abuser. If it turns out that he really did indeed abused Shelby, then I'll take down this account. Which, by the way, was made so my update blog wasn't flooded with stuff that wasn't updates. Wilbur fans are indeed personally affected, because not only did someone we adore get accused of something so horrible, but we were also threatened and told to off ourselves simply because we either had no stance on the situation or supported wilbur. Also, I barely post on this blog so really, what was the point?? You simply could've blocked me and moved on with your life, like I and the others in our system have done since the allegations came out.

like you said, it's been over a year. Drop it. This blog was only created to post proof that we have found for those who harass us for being WSS and tell us to kill ourselves. You're part of the problem, though you're not threatening us. Quit it, because it shows how chronically online YOU are. Stop harassing people online just because of their opinions, and next time you do something like this at least have the guts to do it off anon.

Sincerely, the alters of the Multifandom Hallucinations, which by the way have SSS and neutral alters.

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Leandra's Tik Tok and Instagram got hacked. So don't trust ANYTHING from her accounts until we know 100% that she has control of her accounts back. If it is indeed leandra lvjy they're talking about, most likely it's the hacker trying to stir shit up.

Stay safe y'all, take everything with a grain of salt.

Yall wtaf is going on now

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and no, she didnt like the video

So these things are buzzing on Pinter and I think they are buzzing somewhere in Tumblr too with the tommy fan blogs

Apparantly tommy made a joke with Lovejoy/Wilbur and it wasn't even offensive type

There are mixed interpretations of this thing as you can see in both ccs. Another interpretation is saying "tommy is healing by making fun of bad people". However i doubt whether they saw the same clip as any of the others did

I personally did not see the clip anywhere, not in yt not Pinterest. But apparently it has been uploaded to insta? And Shelby (I don't think it's her officiall Account) liked it.

here you go. didnt get the whole thing, but this is what ppl are talking abt

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So these things are buzzing on Pinter and I think they are buzzing somewhere in Tumblr too with the tommy fan blogs

Apparantly tommy made a joke with Lovejoy/Wilbur and it wasn't even offensive type

There are mixed interpretations of this thing as you can see in both ccs. Another interpretation is saying "tommy is healing by making fun of bad people". However i doubt whether they saw the same clip as any of the others did

I personally did not see the clip anywhere, not in yt not Pinterest. But apparently it has been uploaded to insta? And Shelby (I don't think it's her officiall Account) liked it.

here you go. didnt get the whole thing, but this is what ppl are talking abt

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screenshots aren't mine

also i think it's confirmed that Wilbur is 4 years older than Rue, and they claimed that their abuser is 7 yrs older.

plus, Rue mentioned that the abuser used Techno's death to manipulate them, and Wilbur was dating Shelby when Techno died.

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there’s new allegations?????

yeah but theyre dumb

some girl said someone like 7 years older than her groomed/sa'd her (cant remember which one) and everyone jumped to say it was wilbur

like i said, stupid

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i am myself a wilbur supporter (not wss) but omg please. its been a year. just move on.

i havent posted since jan 16 wha

i agree ppl need to move on, but pls just say that to sss, not me, im already sick of the newest allegations

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Why do you support Wilbur? /genq

I’m genuinely trying to not be mean and I may have some bias.

I said this before on my other blog and I'll say it again.

Wilbur saved my life with his content. I was struggling with my gender identity and his content helped me a bunch. When the allegations came out, I quickly became SSS, but got harassed since I was "befriending the enemy" (talking to WSS) so I became neutral. Then the proof of Wilbur's innocence came out, and the more I saw the more I regretted being SSS

I'm not trying to push an agenda here, I'm simply sharing my story

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I love Wilbur and the whole situation made me lose some respect for his (old) friends. Like Tommy, Jack, etc., As soon as Shelby dropped her story they all instantly started saying "oh he was always manipulative, always so this and that." basically saying everything he does has been bad and malicious. However, why would they hang out with him for years? I know Niki said the internet made her do it but most of them definitely wanted clout. And they only call him out publicly to gain more clout and likes. I don't believe they're friends with him in private, and if they are then it's even worse imo because they care more about their image rather than their friend. They really just threw Wilbur to the mud as soon as the whole thing happened. Idk but it makes me soo mad how they're all acting like they knew he was such an awful person. Me when I spend time with this horrible awful person who I've always hated meanwhile nobody is making me do that. Jack pisses me off sm, he literally cheated on his girlfriend yet he wants to call Wil a bad person. Niki makes me mad too because the internet was not forcing her to be friends with Wilbur. She was choosing to speak positively about him and talk to him. The way they all fucking act like Will was holding knives to their throat making them spend time with him is soo annoying. Sorry, just a rant.

Don't apologize for the rants! But yes, you make very good points (also Jack cheated on his gf???? What???? I knew he had a girlfriend but dawg what)

Honestly, there isn't much for me to add because this is very similar to my thoughts, so I apologize for that. But again, you make very good points as to what everyone has/is doing

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[meant to be anonymous; I just wanna share my thoughts & idk where to post them, sorry if it's too long/offensive/redundant]

Time frame

They were dating the whole 2022 and months into 2023 (Shubb's words) idk how many months exactly but my guess is March/April 2023 cuz they used the same set up in April (probably Shubb was taking her stuff from Wil's flat)

I feel like they both had a certain idea in their mind but ended up badly. Their relationship was mutually toxic & I hope they both heal

The idea of marriage and kids + other issues

My only guess about Shubb with that idea that could make sense is that she was frequently fantasising about it (maybe Wil as well, especially at the beginning of the relationship)

They probably talked about the future at the beginning of their relationship (the biting, the mutual wish to get married & have children in the future, establishing boundaries, whether they keep their relationship public or private, ect) and it became an occuring theme during it (well or poorly communicated)

Wil either:

started having doubts about the idea (which is understandable)

could've changed his mind/starting to resent the idea if her daydreaming was an occuring theme in (like how many times can you hear the same thing before you snap or something?)

Another thing - compatibility:

(very likely) aro/aro-spec allosexual guy

alloromantic ace woman (who came out as demi during their relationship iirc but I think she's back to being ace)

Other contributors: poor communication, the pretty constant band touring, Techno's death, long-distance relationship, her feeling obligated to stay in the relationship/take care of him, Wil's depression/depressive state, possible eventual growing resentment towards each other, the issue with biting, ect

Another thing: Wil's love bombing (Shubb's words) Was it really love bombing or just honeymoon phase? (the guy was crushing on her since ~2020) Like there's a fine line between those things but very blurry

Shubb's Reddit post (using UTC)

The post was made on 17 Nov 2023 0:00-3:11 (I checked it few times. It was 12 months old on 16 Nov ~23:20; a year old on 17 Nov at 3:11) Coincidentally, it was when Shubb streamed & talked about not having been complimented for 2 months & you could hear Wil in the background (someone said it was Oli but I think it was Wil)

The post has one capture on the Wayback Machine made 18 Nov 2023 at ~17:30. The post has 2 upvotes & 8 comments:

1 from automoderator

5 made when the post was published

2 made when/after the stream happened

Idk when the post was deleted or if you can comment on deleted posts if they weren't archived. If you can't, that means the post was deleted during/soon after the stream. If you can then before it (idk when) but it got archived after the stream probably

/conspiracy mode/ at the worst, she wanted people to find the post to point more at Wil. At the best, it was her way of coping with the relationship

Side note, the account she used had 2 comments on r/HazbinHotel I think. I think the account still exists

^^^

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Anon from the really long winded ask about truth and lies - more to say here, unfortunately.

The death threats and overall screaming of "Fuck Wilbur Soot" is frankly childish. So is the horrible vice versa—choice words against Shelby and distasteful nicknames. There is no need for that kind of animosity. Of course, it comes from people devoting too much of themselves to a situation that ultimately doesn't concern them. No one is asking you to violently support or condemn. There is something to be admired from their passion, I will admit, but ultimately? This is nothing.

Naturally, it is (unfortunately) the nature of the internet to act as a megaphone and for words and intentions to spiral and be misconstrued. Things that will not matter in a year will be blown out of proportion. I don't need to worry with myself with these kinds of things. My life is meant to be lived, not rotting in bed thinking about separating art.

I'm listening to I'll Look Good When I'm Sober, and despite it being a more relationship oriented song, it, funnily enough, feels as though it's a mirror to my struggles with mental health. I'd look so much better if I were "sober", or more in my depth with my assignments and myself. The lines about missing another person? I only miss the idea of someone. I think I'll listen to Wake Up & It's Over in whole, now.

(I do admit, it is a little funny/interesting for the only song to be released from Lovejoy post-accusations is an longing/relationship piece. One could argue it was in bad taste on their part, but they *were* teasing and leading up to posting it before the accusations. Though the line, "I miss the hangnails, bits of your skin", after the biting being a huge part of the accusations is. ???.)

(Also, ignore my 2-3 year blocking comment in my last ask, I have a horrible sense of time and I honestly didn't care to check when Shelby's tweets were.)

You're absolutely right, people like that are usually those that are in DEEP into parasocial relationships. That's all I honestly really have to add because you hit the nail right on the head! (plus I'm rushing to respond to asks 😭)

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TO THE ANONS IN MY ASK BOX

I will respond to your asks later, as I'm currently in school

I won't say anything rn, but all of you make good points

And lizzie, could you dm me to let me know if you want me to post your ask? /nf

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I never kept up with Melanie's whole thing either, and I don't really care for it. It's just telling how many people have this "believe all accusations blindly" type of idea only to kick it under the rug when it's a situation between women. Maybe it's not the same people pushing it, but it seems to be the loudest opinions in each of these cases. I will acknowledge that Wilbur saying he has proof but won't share it is suspicious, especially because of how damaging the situation was for his public and personal image. I think I remember seeing a post saying some CCs are allegedly friends behind the scenes with him still? And I think that would make a lot of sense if the evidence did exist and he genuinely just didn't want to hurt Shelby's image, which I feel would speak a lot on him as a spiteless person IF true. I know he's said he has nothing more to say on the situation for now, and I know that's likely important for his healing right now. But it's a lot to think about, even if it's not quite our place to speculate.

And yeah lmao he was my first and only celebrity crush, which is the embarrassing part. I think MCYT especially has developed this idea that parasocial dynamics are this inherently bad thing, but it's natural. Of course we start to care about people we've never met, we're humans. It should be acknowledged and never taken to the point of stalking or hurting others, but it's been a part of the world since media existed. We connect easily, even with fictional characters and inanimate objects. It's a very cute facet of our nature IMO.

It's jarring how differently people act over online celebrities doing something bad than mainstream ones. It's almost like the more indie they are, the more their actions matter. I understand it on a community level, but from an objective level it's odd.

I'm sorry about what you've gone through and I hope you've found some comfort. I'm in a similar boat, I've been abused by both women and other nonbinary people, it feels either like people are either too excited to jump onto hating minorities for any reason or will refuse to believe minorities can be abusers. It's a tiring thing to deal with. And sorry for the essays in your ask box

You are absolutely right on every single point here. The proof, yeah it's a bit suspicious but my thoughts are that he's not showing them out of respect for Shubble (Which I have lost.) I'm sorry you went through that, too, and I hope you (and anyone else who has gone through any type of abuse) get the help they need and deserve. And don't worry about the essays, I truly do not mind!

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I was being a little silly to see what shubbles thought were on the dream situation and literally her third reply atm is this.

Shelby using the squid games meme 'I have played these games before' to a post talking about dreams crash out.

She is saying this like she isn't the one who crashed out. This a grown ass women we are speaking about, using a fucking squid games meme to hint to something that she originally took seriously.

Im so serious atp this is disgusting behavior for a 'victim' that is also a grown ass adult. Fuck shelby. Fuck dream.

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Bady I'll get to your ask later I promise, I've read it but will not respond in this post bc I wanna say it as an answer to your ask

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god you're pathetic

Omg, chat look! My first hate on this blog!!! How about you pay attention to my damn tags "don't like, don't interact" and do as it says? I ain't fucking hurting anyone, you're not forced to see my content, and you interacting with my blog makes similar content appear on your feed. So how about instead of hating on me behind an anon, tell it to me without anon like a man/woman/person/whatever you identify as. I literally do not care about your beliefs but trying to make me feel bad by telling me something I have heard over and over again for the past almost year or so now WILL NOT work. You're the pathetic one here for using anon. Give me an apology, and I'll apologize right back for my words because again, I genuinely do not give a shit if you're WSS, SSS, neutral, or all as long as you're not a dick.

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Thanks for your kind words. In retrospect, and still ongoing, it's genuinely really bizarre to me how accepted listening to Melanie Martinez again is, either because people don't believe the allegations due to inconsistencies (hm?) or because they just don't care at all. I will absolutely admit I was embarrassingly in deep parasocially with Wilbur, and him also having made videos and streamed definitely put him beyond Melanie in that regard with his fanbase. Which if I had to guess would be why there's such a huge difference with how people reacted. Or at least I hope so, because the alternative is the implication that abusive woman deserve to get off lighter than abusive men. Given that Wilbur's come back and seems to be doing okay, I hope this is something everyone can move on from.

Me too honestly. As someone who was abused by a woman, it sucks that people don't believe women can be abusers too. I don't know much about Melanie's drama, but I'm 90% sure there's solid proof of what she's done. As for the parasocial, I believe it's ok as long as you don't take it too far (searching for pictures, breaking boundaries, being obsessed to an unhealthy degree, etc.) As my therapist says, everything is ok in moderation. Too much of anything can be unhealthy.