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Goomy Puddle

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got a call about a pokemon holding up traffic. found this

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wretched creachure

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I feel like a somewhat universal constant for Rumi is the act of touch and looking at someone is always limited to some degree. Rumi noticing her mum doesn’t fall completely into Celine’s touch or hold, or she can never fully look at Celine at times due to her conflicting feelings for her. Observing Celine being more calculating with her touches and words, being so close yet so far away from Mi-yeong. Trying to not show too much of herself. Rumi catching Mi-yeong hesitating with her touches and eye contact with Celine, amply stopping herself from trying to comfort her. Gentle touches and words have to be so careful. Or her watching joyous moment where they could be sitting, eating, playing, planting together. Or making training more fun and music turning into group activity for them. Then she picks up days where silence is too loud or the distance is too noticeable. Or feeling a heavy weight around them. Even when she has two parents, Rumi can’t escape grief, echoes of self hatred or worrying she did something/something is wrong, but her moms keep reassuring her it’s fine. It’s not her fault. It’ll never be her fault, but she can feel something is wrong.

Rumi having even more hatred for Gei-Ma for how acquires jeoseunga saja and treats them. Her hearing from Jinu what happened to when one jeoseunga saja who thought he broke free by being with a Hunter but realized his shame was too great than the love the Hunter had for him, and Gwi-Ma killed him as an example. Rumi realizing what really happened to her father and realizing that Gwi-Ma will always be the source of the problem. Which amplifies the themes of accepting your flaws and that they make you who you are all the more important for Rumi. Accepting oneself truly is the honest way to beat Gwi-Ma.

If Mi-yeong lives to raise Rumi, I’m now curious what happened to her actual father. If he died, I think that just makes Celine and Mi-yeong situationship so much worse. I don’t how Mi-yeong went through the grieving process while also being in Bi denial. Celine who has been trying to ask her out, but now is helping raise a child and helping widowed mate is so heartbreaking.

Fully supporting Step-dad Celine. I believe she tried so hard to fill the void that was left in this family. Rumi no matter what will still call them her parents because Celine was always there for her and tried.

I'm a "Gwi-ma's voice was silenced by Mi-yeong" Rujinu style for Rumi's parents, but I imagine Gwi-ma finding Ji-ho anyway. Finding out about him and Mi-yeong and Rumi and sending demons to overwhelm them. Celine is there to thankfully help, and they all survive, but Ji-ho is consumed by a new shame, the shame of feeling like his family almost died because of him. Mi-yeong's love is no longer being enough to save him. Gwi-ma drags him back to the demon world and ultimately kills him.

Mi-yeong and Celine are now having to lie together because the 3rd Sunlight Sister doesnt know, they have to pretend Ji-ho's soul was simply eaten, and they're stuck with only with the truth and each other.

Not to mention their own separate personal struggles

Mi-yeong has to grapple with losing her lover while falling face first into her messy situationship that made her feel like she was cheating(on both Celine and Ji-ho) for however long. She isn't ready for another relationship. She isn't ready to admit she's bi for real. She isn't ready to be a mom.

Celine has to pretend to be okay with being the pretend lover when she wants Mi-yeong so badly, always has, but she can't be selfish. She can't because Mi-yeong just lost someone more important in her eyes than Celine is. Mi-yeong is the one hurt here, Celine doesn't get to be upset. She just has to alpha up and step into the shoes of a dead man.

So now they're mated and terrified, sharing secrets they dont know how to live with and just...trying. Hopefully it's enough.

And yeah...once Rumi finds out, and is old enough to understand, she'll still regard Celine as her mom, because a parent is so much more than DNA

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Poor Ji-ho. Gwi-Ma using him as an example towards other jeoseunga saja that no matter how much you silence his voice, he will always be there. You’ll never truly ever be free from him as long as shame exists. Ji-ho shame only being sprung from how much he loves his family but in the end causing them harm. I don’t how long this AU goes for, but Jinu hearing about a jeoseunga saja that temporally being free from Gwi-Ma to only being killed because he couldn’t escape his shame would only add to him not trusting Rumi’s optimism about beating Gwi-Ma. He knows he’ll always win until Rumi shows him otherwise.

Poor third Sunlight Sister. No matter the universe, she’s being kept out of the loop. This adds question of if Celine and Mi-yeong only tell Rumi that if she can trust Zoey and Mira, then she should be able to them the truth.

Mi-yeong just being stuck between her grief and her love for two people is so tragic. Her realizing through this situationship with Celine that she may actually love her, but feels like she’s cheating on Ji-ho even though he’s gone. Then her grieving and missing Ji-ho, but feels like she’s dragging Celine along in this horrible lie of a relationship. When they had pretend being partners in the beginning of the lie, she’d hesitate for brief moments or tried to not completely fall into her touches out of guilt and she’d apologize to her afterwards in private.

Celine just pushing down her feelings for Mi-yeong because she cares so much for her. Trying to give her the necessary space and time to grieve the loss of Ji-ho. She knows she can’t ever replace him, but she does her best to stand by her and Rumi. She tries to be careful with her touches when they have play up their lie for the public. She notices her hesitancy and stumbling, and never tries to force her, and pulls back in order to not make uncomfortable. Though over time the genuine touches and the ones they play up become intermixed and hard to differentiate between them. Anyone who asks too many invasive questions towards Mi-yeong or Rumi are immediately shut down by Celine. She will glad be a barrier to anyone threatens to hurt them. If there are Demons still after them—Mi-yeong and Rumi especially—by orders of Gwi-Ma because he won’t let this go, she will fight to protect them as that is what Ji-ho would’ve wanted.

Rumi doesn’t defy family by DNA even more so with Mi-yeong and Celine seeing each other and Ji-ho in Rumi. Rumi not understanding at first why her mum has a deep sadness in her gaze, as if she’s seeing someone else when she looks at her sometimes. Mi-yeong and Celine having trouble helping Rumi with her Demon traits because they are Hunters and the only person who can her is dead and any Demon they try to help only fights back hard or ignores them out of fear of Gwi-Ma. Celine seeing both Ji-ho and Mi-yeong in Rumi and sometimes it hurts but she never stops loving her. Or she worries she’s overstepping too much with Rumi because she isn’t her blood parent. Mi-yeong at first seeing herself and Ji-ho in Rumi before she starts seeing Celine in Rumi, watching her pick up Celine’s traits whether it’s good or bad, she starts to notice how much Celine imprinted in Rumi which makes her feelings so complicated over time. Rumi not understanding why her mum suddenly becomes very conflict after she starts displaying traits Celine has. Worried that she did something wrong and tries to ask her mom what’s wrong with mum. Celine tries to asks about Rumi’s concerns to Mi-yeong, but she either dismisses it or ignores it. She tells Rumi that she isn’t mad at her and never will be, but she can’t answer Rumi’s concern because she’s mad at herself.

If Mi-yeong lives to raise Rumi, I’m now curious what happened to her actual father. If he died, I think that just makes Celine and Mi-yeong situationship so much worse. I don’t how Mi-yeong went through the grieving process while also being in Bi denial. Celine who has been trying to ask her out, but now is helping raise a child and helping widowed mate is so heartbreaking.

Fully supporting Step-dad Celine. I believe she tried so hard to fill the void that was left in this family. Rumi no matter what will still call them her parents because Celine was always there for her and tried.

I'm a "Gwi-ma's voice was silenced by Mi-yeong" Rujinu style for Rumi's parents, but I imagine Gwi-ma finding Ji-ho anyway. Finding out about him and Mi-yeong and Rumi and sending demons to overwhelm them. Celine is there to thankfully help, and they all survive, but Ji-ho is consumed by a new shame, the shame of feeling like his family almost died because of him. Mi-yeong's love is no longer being enough to save him. Gwi-ma drags him back to the demon world and ultimately kills him.

Mi-yeong and Celine are now having to lie together because the 3rd Sunlight Sister doesnt know, they have to pretend Ji-ho's soul was simply eaten, and they're stuck with only with the truth and each other.

Not to mention their own separate personal struggles

Mi-yeong has to grapple with losing her lover while falling face first into her messy situationship that made her feel like she was cheating(on both Celine and Ji-ho) for however long. She isn't ready for another relationship. She isn't ready to admit she's bi for real. She isn't ready to be a mom.

Celine has to pretend to be okay with being the pretend lover when she wants Mi-yeong so badly, always has, but she can't be selfish. She can't because Mi-yeong just lost someone more important in her eyes than Celine is. Mi-yeong is the one hurt here, Celine doesn't get to be upset. She just has to alpha up and step into the shoes of a dead man.

So now they're mated and terrified, sharing secrets they dont know how to live with and just...trying. Hopefully it's enough.

And yeah...once Rumi finds out, and is old enough to understand, she'll still regard Celine as her mom, because a parent is so much more than DNA

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KPDH Identity Headcanons

Rumi

Biromantic, Demi or Ace, Poly

I like the idea of transmasc Rumi but this isnt a solid "headcanon across all my aus"

Mira

Homoromantic, Bisexual, poly

Has "would screw a man, could never been seen holding hands with one" vibes

Zoey

Demiromantic, pansexual, poly

Bobby

Gay, but doesn't really have the time to date, maybe when his girls retire

Saja boys

Jinu- bi

Baby- aroace

Romance- pan, poly

Abby- bi, not opposed to poly but doesnt actively identify as it

Mystery- straight

Celine

Lesbian without her soulmates, very tragic, free her

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Celine and Rumi are exactly the same person one generation apart you can agree with that or you can be wrong I don't make the rules.if you think Rumi would consume herself out of guilt for hiding and lying to her fellow huntresses imagine how she would feel about hurting her daughter by trying to protect her? because that's Celine right there at the end of the movie after the honmoon is sealed.

Generational trauma means Celine passed her trauma , fears and coping mechanisms to Rumi and i am so well about that.

And I am unwell about it.

Celine and Rumi are my Roman Empire

Post canon Celine would be so broken about the events pre-canon and canon, especially over the instance by the tree. How can she be fine, be okay, when her daughter in everything but name, asked her to kill her and thought she could do it? How can she be fine when she had the chance to prove how she loves Rumi and couldn't, her own thoughts and motto getting in the way, hurting Rumi again.

I can just imagine her drowning for weeks in the grief of knowing what she did. Knowing what happened. Forcing herself into isolation because what right does she have to reach out?

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Just like Rumi would, because Celine taught her everything she knows, even the bad..especially the bad.

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Mira can 100% reach, she just wants to watch her struggle first

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I need more Do It For Her references. That song is equally as more tragic as It’s Over Isn’t It(?).

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i can only imagine how celine would feel after finding out that mira and zoey not only accepted rumi but they were outraged at her on rumi's behalf. there Celine was protecting rumi as well as she knew how, sacrificing not only her life but the honmoon and the world to do so. celine was so terrified of the other hunters turning on rumi but in the end they turn on celine. i dont think celine would be pissed about it tho. i think she'd be relieved as long as rumi is safe she'd take their betrayal their outrage. celine would take the hunters hating her so long as they weren't turning on rumi. imagine two generations of hunters turning on celine. oof

Oof yeah. The girls she mentored turning on her after losing her soulmates...

I also think she'd be relieved. Her worst fears for Rumi proven wrong. Where she couldn't be there and help Rumi, they could. That's worth all the pain in the world.

Honestly, I think Celine would even welcome their outrage. I think she'd very much be the self punishing type, and after realizing all her efforts to keep Rumi safe only served to hurt her, she'd think she needs punishing. She'd probably stoke the embers of their anger but careful not to do so in a way that hurts the other three.

I also think they'd clock that shit fast, and it would piss Mira off even worse lowk, make Zoey conflicted, and just upset Rumi.

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Lukewarm take at this point, but...

Celine wasn't keeping the world safe from Rumi, she was keeping Rumi safe from the world. She loved Rumi so much, and it was that love that hurt her. She loved Rumi so much, so selfishly, that she'd rather Rumi be alive and unhappy than dead and free.

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Hot take but a post movie fic where celine sincerely apologises to rumi and acknowledges how she was wrong, and how she understands if huntrix decide seperate from her and want to go no contact, or perhaps build a new, healthier relationship, is infinitely more interesting than celine not thinking she did anything wrong and getting dramatically cut out of rumi's/huntrix's life (for bonus points celine tightly hugs rumi for that symbolism of wholly accepting rumi)

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This part made me giggle a little too hard ngl

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the girls 💕

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them 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

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Iridescent trio

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The Matriarch Isn’t the Villain. She’s the Mirror

I often hear a discourse where Celine in K-pop Demon Hunters, Alma in Encanto and Ming in Turning Red are seen as vilains. They’re the ones who restricted the younger generation, hurt them, and are ultimately responsible for their pain, trauma and self-doubt. They’re framed as the real villains of the story. But I’d like to differ.

These are stories of intergenerational trauma. They are women who survived, repressed, and tried to protect their families the only way they knew how: through control, perfectionism, and emotional suppression.

And yet, when the next generation begins to reclaim joy, freedom, softness — they become the obstacle. Not because they’re bad people, but because they’re scarred. Their minds cling to survival strategies, unable to recognize that the environment has changed.

Alma is still stuck fleeing the colonizers.

Ming is still afraid of her true self.

Celine believes that fear and mistakes must be hidden.

It’s not about hating these characters. It’s about how unprocessed trauma twists love into control. How survival, unexamined, turns into rigidity. These women were never given space to process their own pain and they project it onto their daughters and granddaughters.

And here’s something we rarely say enough: intergenerational trauma can create toxic patterns but that doesn’t always mean there was abuse or conscious harm. Even when their love becomes suffocating or controlling, these women are not necessarily “abusive parents.” They are daughters of silence, fear, and sacrifice. And they were never taught another way. It’s important to make that distinction, especially in a world that often pushes a binary, punitive reading of family dynamics.

They’re the product of a generation that was told to endure. But endurance without healing becomes its own kind of violence.

What’s powerful in these stories is that they don’t end in vengeance. They end in confrontation and transformation. The confrontation is necessary: the younger generation refuses the silence. Refuses the shame. Refuses to carry a burden that wasn’t theirs to begin with.

The house is destroyed in Encanto.

Mei accepts her full self.

So does Rumi.

And in the best cases, this confrontation allows the elder to soften too. Alma opens up. Ming listens. And I’m hoping in the sequel, Celine will open too.

Maybe that’s also why these stories speak so deeply to POC audiences. These aren’t stories about cutting ties. They’re stories about how hard it is to transform them, to protect ancestral bonds while refusing to perpetuate inherited pain. In many racialized families, collectivity, loyalty, and intergenerational duty are sacred... even when they come at the cost of personal boundaries.

And sometimes, Western individualist frameworks read these tensions as dysfunction or villainy. But for us, they’re just the difficult truth of growing up and trying to do better.

These women aren’t villains. That would be too easy. They embody the fragile, necessary work of bringing change without breaking the thread. These stories are about refusing to inherit their pain without reflection. Because love, without accountability, is not enough.

These stories show us that each generation has something to learn from the next. And the new generation must also break free from the chains they inherited while preserving what is meaningfull.

But it’s not just their story.

One day, we’ll be the older generation.

And we’ll need to be humble enough to learn from the ones after us.

So don’t be a fool.

We may be Mei, Rumi, or Mirabel today.

But tomorrow, we could be Ming, Celine, or Alma.

And when that time comes, we’ll realize how hard it is to unlearn what once kept us safe.

So let’s have compassion for all these characters.

Because these stories show us not just how the cycle of generations works, but how it can make us better, stronger, and more connected... if we’re all willing to go through the change.

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If you’re curious, I’ve written more on K-pop Demon Hunters:

A post on the mental health themes woven through the songs — right here.

A breakdown of Celine-Rumi in comparaison to Gothel–Rapunzel dynamic — here.

An analysis about Rumi, Jinu, and the danger of sinking together — here.

Some book recs for each of the K-pop Demon Hunters characters — here.