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Ive seen a few things along the lines of Vulcans meeting 'Country Hick Humans' and not understanding their accent and slang but Id like to see the reverse.

Vulcans are so proper and clear in their diction and speech that whenever a non-native Golic speaker hears a 'Country Hick Vulcan' or just any Vulcan with a super heavy accent they cant understand them because they sound so different to every other Vulcan theyve heard

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Hi everyone, happy threshold day 🎉

I did a pottery course in december and of course I had to make something Salamander related 😁

Enjoy this lizard baby cup, I am very proud of this 😁😁

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Tom Paris' Brilliant Plan

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I’ve never heard of threshold day until 30 min ago and I’m about to watch an Emmy awarded episode of Star Trek

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happy holidays everyone 🦎

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“tell our son he is a pretty salamander and a good salamander”

AU where it’s worf and data instead of janeway and paris and picard doesn’t leave their children behind

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As much as I love Threshold in all its lizardy memey glory, I just want to say that…as a scientist…my issue is not that the writers were saying salamander type things could be a future evolved species. It’s that POPULATIONS evolve, NOT INDIVIDUALS. Ugh come on Star Trek thats like Biology 100 level stuff. Janeway and Paris just mutated or something, don’t call that evolution please.

(That being said I hold nothing against the salamander babies, they are not responsible for the sins of the author and I love them)

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happy last same year as it was yesterday 2024 tuesday

todays the only/last day you can reblog this lol

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Okay I'm back, I've pondered this (simmering in my mental soup for months) and I've come away with some additions. I particularly really like the idea that vulcan structured their society around dealing with autism, so that many of the characteristics for a human with autism don't appear in vulcans. With the flip side being human neurotypical behaviors are considered disabling in their society.

So here's a list. Also I think you made a mistake with your first line. It makes more sense as Vulcan Neurotypicalism is just Human Autism. No you didnt im an idiot, please ignore me.

vulcans only doing things the most efficient/ideal way possible and getting confused if you arent doing it that way; will point out to you the "correct" way to do it because they think thats helping

vulcans having no need to talk to others (esp strangers) unless you have a specific reason

vulcans get overstimulated but youll never tell because they hide it like they do whenever they're in pain

vulcans also conceal that they get meltdowns, more obvious as kids

build their cities to minimize sensory overstimulation; exception are places that cater to non-vulcans like Vulcana Regar which has a noisy and chaotic nightlife

stimming but focusing their stims into meditative like behaviors like zen sand gardens, hair care or hand care

rigidly sticking to schedules

society is structured around a strict degree of predictability so that the only surprising events are unforseen; deal with their panic over unforseen events + change the way they do any of their emotions

follow vulcan rules easily enough because they make sense but sometimes struggle with the rules of other societies

dont really have a "makeup culture" cuz thats illogical but do makeup for art

a little less weird about gender/gender roles

Every kind of social interaction has formal rules (slight exception to close family relationships because they often create their own rules)

Hyper empathy? Well they have literal empathy, does that count

Its impolite to read emotion into someones words and actions especially because even if it does exist, theyre probably trying to control the emotion

End up being seen as pretentious in part because they correct people when they're wrong about things and they interpret that as trying to start an argument

someone on reddit said this which I think is relevant:

I would assume they're sort of like Japanese craftsmen. Whether they’re building something or just sharpening tools, every single movement is done deliberately, thoughtfully, carefully, and with purpose. I would suspect that most low level jobs would be automated, but the Vulcans doing the rest would take them very seriously. Like, yes, my job is to maintain the shuttlecraft in this bay, and I will assure that every single one is in perfect order, checking engine readings and fluid levels at least twice per day.

and this from a fic I really like:

"You don't have a lot of the cognitive biases and shortcuts that most species develop alongside sapience," Deanna said, keeping her voice neutral. Most people would consider that a benefit, but most people weren't aware that those biases came out of underlying heuristics that allowed the brain to conserve processing energy. Being without them was a double-edged sword. Xhenat nodded. "Yes, and as a result we have to be taught to do things that come naturally to other species. We are bad at letting go of the details, worse at learning to ignore the unimportant parts of our environment. We have only exacerbated the situation with millennia of selective breeding with an eye toward developing our telepathy and focus and pattern recognition. As a result, we come into the world quite raw, and are only able to exist with comfort by being taught how to deal with the sensations and emotions and thoughts that otherwise overwhelm us."

After peer review ive decided that Vulcan Autism is just Human Neurotypicalism

“Poor Sosonn… his family just doesn’t know what to do with him :| He keeps making aggressive eye contact, doesn’t understand body mirroring when he plays, choosing to instead disrupt the activities of others; never developed an independent organization system… and most worrying… the poor boy never expressed any desire in a special interest”

“How illogical. How does he expect to find his niche in society that way. Why can he not be like T'puk? She has already made her interest know in trains and will make a fine addition to the public transportation sector one day.”

“He doesn’t even stim.”

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Yknow how alot of people like to suggest that Vulcans get pon farr because theyre emotionally repressed but Betazoids get The Phase which is a similar major increase in sex drive so maybe its a telepathy thing?

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I've already reblogged this I think but I want to add some links that I found off tumblr

List of times vulcans have lied // Refuting the idea that only some vulcans can mind meld // History of vulcan genitalia fanlore // Some extra vulcan words // Vulcan meditation // Marketa vulcan fanpage // Vulcan related items + clothing // DeviantArt Vulcan community (kinda dead) // LUG ST RPG Vulcans Sourcebook // Vulcan Timekeeping // Legends of T'Kay - Vulcan Trickster // Spockanalia - vulcan fanzine (67-70') // Vulcan travel guide epub // Analysis of Surakian Logic // C'thia explanation // Kal-toh explanation // Vulcan harp and Theremin by Peter Pringle // Ti'valka'ain Ralash-Tanaf, Vol 1 by Ray Caspri

Vulcantology: Best Sources To Learn All Things Vulcan

Another lovely and sad song in MGV by T’Prion

So I was just starting out in my research Journey on the Vulcan (or Whl’q’n I have learned!) people and their world (T’Khasi is the name for the Vulcan homeworld and I honest have no idea why it’s translated by the UT into Fed Standard English, it’s definitely one of the less difficult Vulcan words to pronounce.)

But I’ve found EVEN MORE helpful links! Not just for learning Vulkansu but for Vulcans in general! I wouldn’t be surprised if there is eventually yet ANOTHER of these posts in the future (or really just make this one bigger). As it stands, this is my comprehensive guide to all things Vulcan! 💚🖖🏻💚

Major Websites

Surak (bordering on obsolete, but helpful for getting to other hyperlinks in case anything on this post goes funky)

Korsaya (Lots of info on how to write in Vulcan and other language writing questions)

Kir’Shara (This one might be my new favorite! It’s a fan lore site that stays true to canon lore as possible! It’s got the complete writings of Surak, cultural anecdotes and name lists! Much love!)

Where To Learn The Vulcan Language

Vulcan Language PDF (mostly for the lessons in the book’s latter half!)

The Vulcan Dictionary (a little clunky, but @yel-halansu has links to some more polished but still in-development sites on their RB of my original post.)

How to Write in Vulcan (ancient script, there are other fonts like “handwriting” and “Dzhaleyl” but AGV is the one with the letter breakdown)

The Vulcan Alphabet Song (a fan-song I made to remember the fundamentals of the Vulcan Alphabet, ghostwritten by Amanda Grayson, translation in the notes of the original post!)

Canon Lore & History

Vulcan History: Vulcan History (Overview) ~ Surak ~ T’Klass ~ The Kir’Shara ~ Syrranites ~ V’tosh Ka’tur

Vulcan Spirituality: Katra ~ Katric Arks ~ Mind Meld ~ Pon Farr ~ Kolinahr

Vulcan Geography: The Forge ~ Mount Seleya ~ T’Karath Sanctuary ~ The Fire Plains

Recipes: Plomeek Soup (What even is Plomeek Soup??) ~ Plomeek Tea ~ Spice Tea ~ Krei’la

Fanon Lore, Headcanons, and Other Cool Stuff

Music: Tribute To Vulcan (Nadordatoran na’o T’Khasi) ~ “How To Save A Life” by The Fray in Vulcan ~ The Ballad of Solkar The Slut ~ Sidhzhan T’gai YT Channel ~ Songs of T’Khasi Master Post ~ Pon Farr: An Amok Time Tribute ~ Aluk-kumsu (Wellerman in Vulcan)

Vulcan Culture: Vulcan Fashion ~ Vulcan Hairstyles ~ “Hand”canons ~ Vulcan Toddlers ~ Vulcan Teenagers ~ Vulcan Accent ~ The Vulcan Word for Dumbass: Origins ~ Vulcans At Federation “Eurovision” (FANART OF SAID EUROVISION PERFORMANCE) ~ Culture Clash: Non-Vulcans on Vulcan Ships (Bonus: Happy Birth Anniversary Crewman.) ~ Images of T’Khasi (Canon) ~ Vulcan Funerary Practices ~ Qo’nos vs. T’Khasi: Warriors from a Peaceful Planet & Pacifists from A Hell World ~ Vulcans & Physical/Telepathic Intimacy: Too Much Love Is Dangerous ~ Vulcan/Betazoid Relationships ~ Vulcans LOVE Poker ~ Vulcan Adoption Practices (Like Ostriches!) ~ Vulcan Home Decor & Architecture

Vulcan Biology: The BIG Vulcan Biology Post ~ Debate on Vulcan Evolutionary Biology (partially in notes) ~ Vulcan Biology Headcanons ~ Pon Farr Headcanons ~ Vulcan Sicknesses ~ Emotion/Pain Receptor Headcanon ~ Vulcan Infants ~ Demystifying The Vulcan Katra ~ Vulcan Hybrids: Post Spock ~ Pon Farr is NOT Puberty ~ Why Vulcans Get Drunk On Chocolate ~ Vulcan Desert Adaptations ~ Vulcans vs Other Species in Combat ~ Vulcan Telepathic Abilities ~ Wildlife of Vulcan

Vulcan History: The BIG Vulcan History Post (+Reformation Anecdotes) Ambassador Solkar: A Comedic Anecdote ~ Technologically Contextualizing Surak ~ Vulcan Bronze Age vs Surakian Age ~ Sarek: A Character Study ~ Pre-Surakian Ancient Vulcan Designs (Male, Female) ~ Vulcan Fashion History ~ Pre-Surak: Hell, But Not Just Because of War

Vulcan Politics & Philosophy: Humans Are Lonely: Why I Love Vulcans ~ Vulcan High Command vs. Syrranites vs. V’tosh Ka’tur ~ Vulcan Terrorism ~ Childhood Betrothal Discourse (Improved!) ~ The Difference Between Sarek & Tuvok ~ The Purpose of Kohlinar (and why Spock didn’t do it right) ~ “I Do Not Feel ___”: A Mantra, Not A Fact ~ The Societal Evolution of Vulcankind Explained ~ The Logic Spectrum: Syrranite Lite ~ Logic is not “logic” ~ Meditation Candles: Reminders of Home & Controlled Chaos ~ On T’Pau: The Face of Vulcan ~ The Complexities of Vulcan Mental Health ~ The Kir’Shara & Familial Loyalty

Special Thanks to @find-me-in-outer-space @protectspock @distractedducky @nuclear-wessels @janey-jane @acesexualspock @chateauofmymind @starfleet-memedom @ineffablebuddies @sporkandpringles @s-trip-tease @foodreplicator @marlinspirkhall @adira-tal @aceofwands @goddamnshinyrock @mlovesstrawberries @spacedancer1701 @sleepysnowfinch @enterprisetrampstamp @capsfromtrek @seraphsfire @starcrossedcherik @thefuzzyaya @thenorsiest @trillgendermetaphor @onelonelystory @yel-halansu @tomfooleryprime @sweetsoursugarcube @nisaexploresadhd @tribbleland @trekkie24 @thornfield13713 @menecio @hughculber @svartalfhild @zhewhoisfate @hedge-rambles @starfleet-jelly @koalas-koalas-everywhere @scientific-tricorder @caffeinatedcorvids @subarktis @plant-dad-sulu @thedurvin @beelzebufo @falsepremise @greatbirdofthegalaxy @tyrannosaurus-trainwreck @flerkenindisguise @redshiftsinger and so many others for your contributions!

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I have this idea in my mind of a in-universe movie or something where one of the villains is a vulcan and as part of his backstory he was stranded in space completely isolated for 15 years. And everyones like "wow this feels culturally insensitive they made the vulcan character so emotional" but all the vulcans can focus on is "theres no way he survived 15 years in isolation" "perhaps he meditated through it?" "his mental state was shown to be degrading too early for that to be feasible"

Love thinking about pon farr not just because its sexy but about the way it forces vulcans to consider sex as a biological need like oxygen or water. Just think about the psychological impacts of that? What would you do if you were starving? What would you do to obtain food? Would you steal? Would you murder?

Survival instincts have a way of slowly stripping your morals away as they become no longer convenient. And its this deconstruction of your psyche that truly tests ones self control and just how much youre willing to commit to your morals. And, just how long you can last before you snap.

No wonder vulcans, a species that prides themselves on their self control and leaving behind their savage ways despise it so much. Even surviving it, I mean starvation is traumatic enough to leave mental wounds for decades, possibly till the rest of your life? And vulcans are just walking around experiencing that on a regular basis?

Or to simplify:

Hunger can explain many acts. It can be said that all vile acts are done to satisfy hunger. -Maxim Gorky

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theres a tendency i think to consider the violence of pon farr as sort of included in the biological imperative, but i think its well if you dont get what i mean: have you ever been hangry? and everything ticks you off and youre upset and you dont know why but then you eat something and youre fine? imagine that but a million times worse.

yknow, some vulcans dont really have the whole exploding into a ball of rage. they implode. sufferring but as long as its only themselves taking the damage its okay. like pon farr would be so great for character deconstruction but everyone keeps using it like just an illness. see vulcans normally have all this mental training to control themselves in the face of life threatening things like lack of food or water, but part of pon farr is that it breaks down all that

vulcans having this cultural idea around rape in pon farr and its like when a starving man steals food from well... anyone really. most people agree that stealing is bad and its like "oh well he shouldve picked a different option, one that harms less people." but theres always this underlying sense of the act being justifiable. of people going "the victim had enough food to spare its fine. if they hadnt gave him food freely they wouldve been assholes anyway. i dont know that i wouldnt have done the same thing."

Love thinking about pon farr not just because its sexy but about the way it forces vulcans to consider sex as a biological need like oxygen or water. Just think about the psychological impacts of that? What would you do if you were starving? What would you do to obtain food? Would you steal? Would you murder?

Survival instincts have a way of slowly stripping your morals away as they become no longer convenient. And its this deconstruction of your psyche that truly tests ones self control and just how much youre willing to commit to your morals. And, just how long you can last before you snap.

No wonder vulcans, a species that prides themselves on their self control and leaving behind their savage ways despise it so much. Even surviving it, I mean starvation is traumatic enough to leave mental wounds for decades, possibly till the rest of your life? And vulcans are just walking around experiencing that on a regular basis?

Or to simplify:

Hunger can explain many acts. It can be said that all vile acts are done to satisfy hunger. -Maxim Gorky

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Love thinking about pon farr not just because its sexy but about the way it forces vulcans to consider sex as a biological need like oxygen or water. Just think about the psychological impacts of that? What would you do if you were starving? What would you do to obtain food? Would you steal? Would you murder?

Survival instincts have a way of slowly stripping your morals away as they become no longer convenient. And its this deconstruction of your psyche that truly tests ones self control and just how much youre willing to commit to your morals. And, just how long you can last before you snap.

No wonder vulcans, a species that prides themselves on their self control and leaving behind their savage ways despise it so much. Even surviving it, I mean starvation is traumatic enough to leave mental wounds for decades, possibly till the rest of your life? And vulcans are just walking around experiencing that on a regular basis?

Or to simplify:

Hunger can explain many acts. It can be said that all vile acts are done to satisfy hunger. -Maxim Gorky

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I find it extremely funny that hybrid species are like, a bigger plot point in Star Trek than in Star Wars. In Star Wars its like: We have conquered and explored the entire (and I do mean the entire) galaxy for thousands if not millions of years. The galaxys species are so intertwined there are many aliens who dont even know their (or have a) homeworld. But hybrid species arent like super common and most everyone sticks to their own species. And in Star Trek its like: Hi, we've only known you guys for about 100 years but do you want to make some hybrid babies together? Far in the future in like 1000 years, galactic species (still their tiny corner of the alpha quadrant, not even the whole galaxy) will be so intertwined that there will be hybrid-hybrid species that are a large mishmash of a bunch of different species.

To be clear, this isnt about horniness. Star Wars is just as horny for aliens. Except no actually. I mean they are, but that too isnt a major or minor theme and rarely gets touched on. Only really in Legends. If you have any rebuttal to that, exclude all Twi'leks before you make it.

I know theres a whole Doylist explanation behind the difference in tone and messaging of the franchises, it just seems hilarious in universe. The shows about humans making their way out into unfamiliar space and meeting new peoples has more alien romances and hybrid children than the one about humans exploring a familiar space and meeting people everyones already known about. Imagine we get a Star Wars show about exploring wild space and they also get the plethora of alien romances cause the Unknown is sexier than the Known.