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Estimated 30 people a day are getting arrested for online posts in the UK. If your eyes aren’t open, the United Kingdom is run by a fascist regime take over the same we saw happened to Iran in the 70s. If you westerners don’t wake up, we are doomed.

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Can you explain how Zionism, which specifically calls for an all-Jewish Israel, therefore necessitating extermination of all others, *isn't* fascist?

Zionism, Fascism, and Loaded Questions

Anon's logical fallacy is The Loaded Question. 

The Loaded Question is a rhetorical tactic which embeds controversial, unjustified, unsupported, or false assumptions into the question itself. The goal is to force the responder to either:

Answer within the false frame

or

Reject the premise entirely, often at the cost of appearing evasive.

Anon will know in the future that this sort of rhetorical dishonesty works far better verbally. 

Doing it in writing gives the responder the opportunity to dissect the dishonesty and display its innards like a specimen in formalin.

(The metaphor works because what's on display is both repulsive and educational.)

First lie: "Zionism calls for an all-Jewish Israel"

No, it doesn't.

Zionism is the movement for Jewish national self-determination in a portion of the historic land of Israel, to which the Jewish people are indigenous.

That's it. 

Nothing about "only Jews allowed." Nothing about kicking everyone else out. Nothing about "extermination."

Israel's founding documents are explicitly pluralistic. 

From Theodore Herzl's Der Judenstaat:

Every man will be as free and undisturbed in his faith or his disbelief as he is in his nationality. And if it should occur that men of other creeds and different nationalities come to live amongst us, we should accord them honorable protection and equality before the law.

Israel's 1948 Declaration of Independence includes:

The State of Israel… will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture…

It also pledges to "Safeguard the Holy Places of all religions," and has consistently kept those promises. Talk to religious minorities in Israel and they'll tell you. (The Baha'i faith originated in Iran, but the Islamic regime has endlessly persecuted them. Their world headquarters is in Israel.)

The State of Israel has always had a sizable non-Jewish population and was founded with a commitment to equal rights for all its citizens regardless of religion or ethnicity. In 1948, Israel had about 156,000 Arab citizens. It has over 2 million Arab citizens today who vote, hold office, and serve in the judiciary and military.

If Zionism really called for an all-Jewish state, Israel wouldn't have:

21% non-Jewish citizens (mostly Arab)

Arab Supreme Court justices

Arab parties in the Knesset...including Antizionist parties

A movement which calls for extermination does not preserve voting rights and legal protections to those it supposedly seeks to destroy.

You don't have to like Zionism, Anon, but you don't get to invent your own definition for it.

Second  Lie: "Necessitating extermination of all others"

This is more than a lie, it's incitement.

Like falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, the aim isn't to warn, but to provoke panic and hostility. The charge weaponizes moral outrage through fabricated stakes, collapsing any possibility for honest discourse under the weight of its dishonesty.

There is no Zionist doctrine that calls for extermination.

None.

I'd like to believe Anon has simply been misled by propaganda, but it's more likely they’re repeating this falsehood knowingly.

This accusation doesn’t come out of nowhere, it plays on longstanding antisemitic tropes.

For centuries, Jews have been accused of plotting secret control, poisoning wells, harvesting organs, and killing children. The idea that Jews need others to disappear in order to be free is one of the more recent remixes of that tune.

Like Holocaust inversion, it accuses Jews of the very crimes committed against them. In this case, the ideology that gave rise to the actual genocide of Jews, fascism, is being projected onto Jews...for building a refuge against it.

That's more than  intellectually lazy. It's morally bankrupt.

Third lie: "Isn't that fascism?"

Words mean things. Specific things.

Fascism is not a term for "stuff I don’t like." It's a political ideology characterized by:

Authoritarian, centralized power

Suppression of dissent

Ethnic supremacy

Militarism and expansionism

The glorification of violence and obedience

Fascism was pioneered in Mussolini’s Italy, developed in Franco’s Spain, and perfected by Hitler’s Germany, the regime which murdered six million Jews while the world looked the other way.

It resulted in book burnings, secret police, mass exterminations, and world war.

Zionism, by contrast, is a democratic national movement. It exists across the political spectrum from far left to socialist to liberal to conservative to far right. It includes Orthodox Jews and secular atheists. It's messy, contested, and noisy. Israeli politics are combative and often infuriating, but Israel is not monolithic, authoritarian, or totalitarian. Israel has free press, regular elections, and independent courts. That's democracy, not fascism. Like all democracies, it is deeply flawed and not remotely comparable to fascist regimes.

If Israel was expansionist, it would not have given the Sinai (larger than Israel itself) back to Egypt for peace. If it was militaristic, it would have started at least some of the wars it has been forced to fight by being attacked.

Anon may not like nationalism, and that's fine if Anon is willing to condemn all nations similarly.

Anon may not like religion playing a role in state identity, and that’s fine if Anon also condemns the other ~80 countries which make religion part of their national identity.

But Anon is focused only on Israel. Huh.

Crying Wolf/Fascism

If they truly oppose fascism (as we all should), Anon should understand that diluting the meaning of the word through strategic misuse is a gift to actual fascists.

When you misuse the word fascism, you weaken its meaning. The word loses its power to describe real threats and that helps those threats go unrecognized. Movements which thrive on confusion and historical amnesia benefit from the kind of fog this strategic, dishonest misuse of the word creates. 

You're not calling out fascism, Anon. You're helping clear the way for it.

Turn out your pockets!

This indictment-disguised-as-a-question has three major components:

"Zionism means all-Jewish Israel." (False)

"All-Jewish Israel requires exterminating others." (False and inflammatory)

"That sounds like fascism." (Only if you rewrite history and all dictionaries)

This method of framing falsehoods as questions is common in conspiratorial thinking and was once seen mostly on the political far right (Tucker Carlson is famous for it).

It works by bypassing critical scrutiny. It attempts to shift the burden of proof onto the accused and then demands they explain why they're not guilty of something they never did.

Jews recognize this for what it is immediately because it's very familiar to us.

There’s an old Jewish saying:

The antisemite doesn't accuse the Jew of stealing because he thinks he stole something. He does it because he enjoys watching the Jew turn out his pockets to prove his innocence.

As Haviv Rettig Gur put it:

They’ve only got one trick. This is that trick. They think words are weapons, so they throw them around mindlessly and see what sticks.

Why Does This Seem Plausible to Some People?

It confirms what they want to believe.

When people have decided to see Israel as a colonial, racist, or imperialist project, every fact get twisted to fit that framing.

Arabs in Israel? Tokenism.

Elections? Apartheid theater.

Self-defense? Genocide.

This is confirmation bias at its most toxic. They first decide that Zionism/Israel is evil, and then reinterpret or contort every detail as proof to fit that assertion, no matter how contradictory or nonsensical.

What’s Actually Going On Here

Here's the trick at the core of this question:

It turns Jewish survival into Jewish aggression. 

It takes the desire of a historically oppressed people to live in safety and reframes it as domination. 

It takes victims of fascism and accuses them of being fascists. 

It takes a people who have been repeatedly expelled, persecuted, and murdered…and accuses them of genocidal intent for wanting a homeland.

It's DARVO. (Ironically, antizionists love to accuse Israel of DARVO!)

Yes, these inversions are antisemitic, and not because they seek to criticize Israel. 

This trick is antisemitic because it demands that Jewish nationhood be uniquely criminalized and uniquely illegitimate…based on unsupported, unsupportable lies.

You don’t need to support Israel's policies. Many Israelis don't. 

You don't need to agree with Zionism. About ~10% of Jews don't.

But if you're going to accuse an entire national movement of being inherently fascist, genocidal, and illegitimate, the burden of proof is on you, Anon.

You've offered no proof. Just buzzwords, historical inversions, and invented definitions.

That's most of what we see from the antizionist camp. 

Lies don't build peace. Slanders don't help Palestinians. Calling Zionism fascism won’t bring a Palestinian state closer, it just fuels hatred and pushes compromise further out of reach.

Zionism isn't above criticism because no national movement should be above criticism.

Criticism based on fiction, however, is propaganda. 

If you're sincerely interested in understanding Zionism (as a movement, a history, and a lived reality for millions of Jews), you need to start with what it is, not with what its enemies say it is.

The path to a better conversation (and maybe even a better future) starts with honesty.

TLDR:

Zionism isn’t fascism. It doesn’t call for extermination. It doesn’t seek ethnic purity. What it seeks is what nearly every people on Earth seeks: a place to live freely, safely, and with dignity.

If you have a problem with that only when it applies to the Jewish people, Anon, your issue isn’t Zionism.

Your issue is Judenhass.

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We will never forget what the Palestinians have done to our people, and the lie spread by the western media and professors at universities.

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The scariest part of all of it? The media that overlooked it, the antisemities who denied it, and the world that celebrated it.

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Oskar Schindler was born on April 28, 1908. Pictured here are Holocaust survivors he saved, standing alongside individuals from the movie Schindler’s List at his grave in Jerusalem. Schindler is responsible for saving the lives of approximately 1,200 Jews during the Holocaust. He passed away in 1974 and is buried in Israel. In 1993, he was formally recognized as Righteous Among the Nations, and more than 8,000 descendants are alive today as a result of his efforts.

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On this day in 2019, a white supremacist carried out a deadly shooting at the Chabad of Poway synagogue in California, United States. The gunman entered the synagogue’s foyer and fatally shot 60-year-old Lori Gilbert-Kaye. According to witnesses, she had heroically tried to shield Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein, the congregation’s founder, who was also wounded in the attack. The assailant then turned to a side room, where he shot and injured a man in the leg and also wounded his eight-year-old niece. He was understood to have fled before calling the police himself to confess that he had committed a shooting at a synagogue because he believed that Jews were trying to “destroy all white people,” and was subsequently apprehended approximately two miles from the synagogue. He was later convicted and sentenced in federal court to life in prison without the possibility of parole, plus an additional thirty years.