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Teen Wolf, A Meta

The more I watch Teen Wolf, the more I realize that Scott McCall is nothing but Jeff Davis’ Self Insert Power Fantasy. Scott’s “True Whiny Alpha Chosen Gary Stu One” story arc is literally only Jeff narrating his own wet dream through Posey as Scott. Which is why any actor, character and story arc that eclipsed and took attention away from Tyler Posey/Scott McCall was immediately sidelined, belittled and shut down.

I’d love to know the exact amount of biography Jeff accidentally put into Scott, but I suspect it’s VERY high

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Somewhere in my notes in the last few days I saw someone add some tags that I’ve been thinking about ever since. I wish I could find them again (or that I’d just saved their post at the time) because I think they made a lot of sense.

They were talking about how fanfic is becoming more and more mainstream while still remaining largely transgressive. It’s such an interesting dichotomy to think about!

On the one hand, you have sites like AO3 and realities like widespread high speed internet access being more and more accessible to larger and larger groups of people. This makes it incredibly easy for anyone at all to find and read fanfic.

On the other hand, you have the roots of fanfic. It was born out of marginalized groups such as women, people of colour, and members of the queer community deciding to take the stories that had been aimed at a largely male, white, heterosexual audience and inverting them into something they could enjoy and relate to. To this day, fanfic is a place where people write the kinds of stories that don’t get made into movies and TV shows. The kinds of stories that don’t get published or end up on the New York Times bestseller list.

Fanfic used to be written and shared in secret. People used to hide it. People still do hide the fact that they read or write it. But it’s becoming something that more and more people are becoming more and more aware of.

So now there’s a spotlight starting to shine on fanfic. People who aren’t looking for transgressive works are finding them where they always were. People who think the status quo is fine are getting upset when they enter a place where the status quo is constantly being upended.

The tags on that post that I can’t find made the point that popular media is curated and sanitized and stripped of most of its controversy in order to appeal to the widest possible audience. But that also makes that audience expect all media to be curated and sanitized in the same way. When they encounter the messy, controversial, ugly, radical, difficult things that people write in fanfic, they’re unprepared.

Fanfic isn’t big media. Fanfic authors aren’t being edited and filtered and polished - and nor are their works. The clash between the expectations of people new to fanfic and accustomed to popular media and the realities of what fanfic is and what it’s being written for - that’s part of this struggle that fandom is going through right now. It’s been going on since the beginning of course, but it’s getting louder every year.

I’m still thinking my way through this, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. If those were your tags, please let me know so I can credit you with the ideas at the core of this post.

And if you have any ideas for how we as fans can better introduce the newbies to the culture and expectations in fandom, I’d love to hear it. The better we can guide people into our space, the better they’ll fit in when they join it.

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There is a favorite actor poll on Just Jared. Dylan is in a narrow lead.

http://www.justjared.com/2020/12/15/who-is-your-favorite-actor-of-2020-vote-here/

This is so funny b/c a lot of Outlander Clan are overseas so Dylan has the lead now, but Sam will get it back overnight. I love that everyone else has like 2k votes and it’s Dylan and Sam fighting it out!

http://www.justjared.com/2020/12/15/who-is-your-favorite-actor-of-2020-vote-here/

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The Standing Dead

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Summary:

“Tell me you’re not seriously with Derek Hale.”

Stiles pretends to check that the guitar is in tune (of course it is, they tune all of these before he shows up), and then makes a face like he has no idea what Scott is talking about. To sell it, he says as much out loud. “Who?”

“Who?” Scott’s eyebrows disappear into his hairline, his mouth falling open in shock that Stiles would be so bold as to deny it. “Stiles, that guy is an asshole.”

“That’s fine,” Stiles waves it off, “because I’m not with him, so it doesn’t matter.”

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Dylan O’Brien vs Teen Wolf, take #1276516235

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daliaaaaa could you tell me your fave sterek fics please?? :)

How could you ask me this? Do you have any idea how manysterek fics I’ve read over the years? How many I’ve loved?

This is a short list of the very few I could think of offthe top of my head. I think I’ll probably make a recs page, because I’ve beenmeaning to for a long time. I have a recs tag, but that includes differentpairings as well.

Sideways and Slantways and Longways and Backways

“I called you a slave-driver!” Stiles cried hysterically. “I called you an ogre! I stole all the blue paperclips!”Derek raised an eyebrow at him.“That’s company property!” he shouted, waving his arms madly in distress.Derek ran a hand over his face. “It’s not theft if the vice president of the company gives you permission.” (Otherwise known as the Elevator AU)

The Price

Stiles must surrender the most important thing in his life to protect the town… and no one can figure out what it was.

Around The Bend

The first time Derek catches sight of the new yoga instructor, Stiles is in the middle of showing a class how to do downward-facing dog. Derek walks into a wall.

Things don’t exactly improve from there.

Derek can’t stop staring at Stiles, the bendy new yoga instructor at his family’s gym. Stiles thinks Derek’s a repressed homophobe who hates Stiles for making him want the D. They fall in love.

can’t be hateful, gotta be grateful

“Be cool, Dad, we’ve decided to con Grandma.”

(Or, the one where the Stilinski men drag Derek to Thanksgiving dinner at Grandma’s and she gets the right wrong idea.)

Keep reading

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Dylan O’Brien as Fredrick Fitzell in The Education of Fredrick Fitzell (2020)

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Why Scott McCall Is Teen Wolf’s Worst Character

There is this notion in the Scott/Posey fandom that they can do and say whatever they want. When Derek and Stiles fans called them out for harassing a Teen Wolf fan who had the audacity to dislike Scott McCall, the Scott McCall defense squad defended their own disgusting behavior by whining that “they disrespected Scott McCall in the general tags.” The problem with that is that these are the same bullies who would go into full-on attack mode if you dared post anything even remotely critical of Scott McCall in the anti Scott McCall tag.

I’ve seen these people post their anti Derek, Stiles, Sterek - pro Scott crap in the “Derek Hale”, “Stiles Stilinski” and “Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski” tags on purpose.

Scott/Posey stans act as if the truth is determined by how loud and toxic they are. Since Stiles and Derek are the fan favorites, the stars of the show, and they overshadowed Scott from the day one without even even trying, then they can do as they please, even harassing Teen Wolf fans and dropping into the Stiles Stilinski or Derek Hale tag to say how much they hate the character.

I personally feel that the reason behind his is that antis identify with Scott so much that if you dare criticize Scott’s canonical abusive actions and behavior, they feel you’re insulting them. They have bought into the wish fulfillment that Scott McCall represents.

Scott McCall represents the idea that you can treat everyone around you like crap, you can insult people, invade their privacy, emotionally or physically lash out at them when you’re upset, but as long as you’re in a position of power and arguably charismatic, people will still love you and treat you like you’re a hero and the bestest friend ever. It doesn’t matter how much you hurt the people around you, because the entire power fantasy is that people will accept your behavior, and instead of asking you to apologize, they’ll instead apologize to you, even for the most minor meaningless slight, because only your feelings and your emotions matter.

It’s what has made characters like Scott McCall so popular among the antis, no matter what show they are on. And why this particular trope, the Average Whiny Asshole With A Plot Armor, is only popular when played by an attractive guy.

Of course, in antis’ fan fictions, Scott McCall will have most of their canon traits (such as violence, jealousy, possessiveness, bigotry, entitlement, and cruelty) removed, because as much as Scott Stans love Scott McCall for being a toxic asshole and getting away with it, they understand they can never admit that. So they turn Scott into a self insert Mary Sue and give him all the positive traits stolen from the Teen Wolf characters who they claim to despise.

This conceals the fact that they liked Scott McCall exactly because of his lack of positive character growth, including his utter refusal to acknowledge that his abusive actions and behavior have consequences even if he manages to hide them or blame others for them.

Scott spent six seasons using his friends and victims as a cover for his actions, and no one ever held him accountable for what he did. The production ended up with a character who is stuck in the same static condition he was in the pilot: a character who never gets to learn or improve any part of himself. By the end of the show, Scott McCall is still the same whiny, cruel, bigoted, entitled asshole that he was when he first showed up on the show. The very same boy who thinks that the hunters had a valid reason to slaughter the Hales, lashes out at his best friend, and then lives out his Werewolf Jesus fantasies and delusions of grandeur through his friends’ suffering.

Instead of growing, Scott got reasons he should be allowed to be an asshole. He lies because “he has to”. He’s violent because “You may be an alpha, but you are not mine!” He’s abusive because his victims provoke him. He’s cruel because he is a werewolf. He’s jealous and possessive because he’s in love.

With characters like Scott McCall, the point isn’t for him to improve and overcome his problems. It’s for other characters to make allowances for his problems. In its fan service, the show let him stay the same entitled little boy he always was. Even in the final episode, he gleefully ruins his friends’ chance to have a life outside of him and of Beacon Hills just because he needs their help to save his own cowardly ass once again. Scott literally ends the show being his usual toxic self and recruiting traumatized children to fight his own battles. Hell, the rare times Scott did show character growth, like finally admitting he’s utterly useless when left to his own devices, his stans reacted with anger, because how dare they have Scott admit he can’t even plan his way out of paper bag without his smarter than everyone friends’ constant help and support?!

This leads to Season 5, where Scott once again lashed out at Stiles, blamed Stiles for his own mistakes, dehumanized Stiles for defending himself against his abuser, gaslit Stiles, tried to isolate Stiles from his support system, accused Stiles of being a violent, dangerous, inhuman monster and a serial killer, and then acted as if he was the victim. And then of course Scott lies and plays up an injury that had long healed for six episodes straight just to convince his friends not to abandon him again because “I healed when we were together again. Where we were pack.” That is exactly what Scott/Posey fans wanted though: a character who can get away with this crap yet still be seen as a woobie and hero at the same time.

Then people wonder why Teen Wolf fans, critics, and viewers (and the actors themselves) come to despise Scott McCall and see him as everything wrong in fandom. It’s because Scott brought down the show by undermining its themes and other characters whenever the show, due to Posey’s jealous fits and temper tantrums, let him get away with the things like attacking Corey and plotting Josh and Tracy’s murder begins everyone’s back. When the show let him constantly insult Stiles and Derek, without giving Stiles and Derek a chance to push back at him. When the show let Scott abuse Isaac, and acted as if it was okay for Scott to do so because it was done in a humorous way. When the show let Scott sell Derek and his Pack out to Gerard and then justify it. When the show let Scott sacrifice Erica and Boyd to look good in Allison’s eyes and never called him out on it. When the show let Scott be abusive, and mean, and a bully, and acted as if those scenes were ok because Scott was a “true alpha”.

When you dare to criticize Scott’s abusive behavior, his delusional squad will excuse it by yelling “but Scott is a Mexican boy!” (he is not), or “Scott is depressed!” (he is not), or “Scott is poor!” (he is not), or “Scott is the most important character of Teen Wolf!” (he is not), as if that somehow makes Scott’s behavior okay, never realizing how racist and insulting that is to real Mexican people who aren’t complete assholes to everyone around them the way that Scott is.

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This is a great piece of meta. Very well thought out and presented. Tell a friend. 

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Tyler Posey likes Sterek (and thinks he really starred in Black Sails).

Does this mean he's a racist?

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Stiles caughts Derek in the shower

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“I would like to point out, after I was done screaming in frustration, that Strk is a prime example of a slash ship made for/by straight people. I have never talked with another guy who likes guys that watched this show that shipped that ship.”

Imagine thinking there are no gay guys out there who ship Sterek just because they don’t talk to you. 

I mean, we already know they have excellent taste. They ship Sterek, after all. 

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Different anon here.  Here is the link to the ET Canada article about Dylan:  https://etcanada.com/news/664109/dylan-obrien-thinks-twitters-dylanobrienisoverparty-is-hilarious/

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ATTENTION!

Hear ye, hear ye!

Hopefully forever, but until further notice I will not be engaging or posting anything from @princeescaluswords.

He creates straw man arguments designed to have people defending themselves argue in circles. And when presented with receipts, he simply resets and says “no one has provided me any receipts *shrugs*.

What it amounts to is that PEW isn’t interested in actually educating or even truly bringing an eye to racism in fandom. He cares only about “winning” and establishing his supremacy as a BNF in anti-fandom. 

The pure hubris he employs of being a 50 year old white man who admittedly was closeted for most of his life and ignorant to race issues to then trying to scold other about racism is astounding. 

He throws around words that don’t make sense in context, he creates comparisons that are never terrible and employs strange, long winded analogies that don’t do anything but confuse the reader. 

He recently had an entire rant about House, a show he never finished and talked about how he finished because he no longer liked the main character. He was supposed to be unlikable! Everyone talked about how he got more and more awful, he was kind of the medical Breaking Bad. Now that’s a good analogy and honestly it’s not really that good. 

So because he left, he missed the discourse about Gregory and his character. What does this have to do with Scott? 

And the fact that I can spend more time arguing about House than you know… how to solve fandom racism, is part of his ploy. Because he doesn’t want my input, he wants me to bow to his opinion so he can be seen as the architect. Why do you think he writes all this meta instead of the Scott positive content he craves so badly. 

He’s a fraud and after his tactic of trying to compare Scott to George Floyd and Derek to the racist cop that killed him, I’ve seen he has no integrity. He needs to understand his place and understand the people he hurts with his lies is not worth the amount of hearts his posts get. 

As a black woman, I’m not debating with anyone that has so little respect for their own group of so called friends, much less me.

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@ camelotpark unblocking me just long enough to respond with this nonsense is hilarious

camelotpark

You are a white woman who has shown to be racist for years. In that very thread you have multiple people calling you out for being racist.

Ones that I have never even talked to before and were here long before I was. Many of those people are poc and I will take their word over yours on what is racist. You, a person who has built, and continues to build, that reputation for themselves.

I get that it sucks being so publicly called out on the shitty racist behavior you’ve done, but here is your chance to learn from it. Try and be better or at the very least don’t try to tell me what I see with my own eyes about the things I’ve experience and the way I’ve (and many others) have dealt with a white women like you telling me that your actions isn’t what it is. Which is gaslighting since you seem so keen on using that term.

And trust, kindness is the last thing someone like you has ever shown.

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I am white, that bit is right, this reputation for me being racist, is entirely from you and your clique, I have made mistakes and if someone goes that’s offensive I correct my behaviour but here’s the issue, and why no one takes you seriously, nothing I said about Scott is because he’s latinx, but because he’s Scott

I hold him to the standards HE insisted on, not me, and it’s not because he’s Latinx he doesn’t hold up to them it’s because he’s a bag of dicks and the idea that he gets a free pass because he’s not white means other villains should also get the same pass, like Kali, or what about Kincaid, or Theo, all of which have actors of color.

Your determination to weaponise your argument with buzzwords actually do a lot to rob the words of their power, Posey is biracial but that doesn’t immediately handwave Scott’s behaviour. He DID force Derek to bite Gerard and that IS sexual assualt, that doesn’t change just because his mother has a latinx surname - the only evidence in show that Scott is Latinx by the way- both of his parents have Italian American actors. He did creep on Allison, both breaking into her room to replace the necklace which he could have handed her at any time and in the motel. Those behaviours have nothing to do with his race, you can argue that the second was because of wolfsbane but that’s not an argument your side favours is it?

now because you’re being a cowardly bag of dicks about this I’m going to open this up @stickykeys633 has a laundry list of you and your crew gaslighting and bullying, I can’t count the harrassment and threats against me bullying because I’ve never taken them seriously

if I took you seriously, poppet, I’d block YOU

maybe the difference between us is that I know it’s a tv show and that as a piece of fiction it doesn’t matter, and it doesn’t matter what other people write about Scott in fic

and - this one must really sting

I understand why people dislike him, and so much of it is because they despise you and your ilk, if this is what you get when you go to the effort of proving Scott is an interesting character, albeit an unpleasant one, I can’t imagine what you get when you say you dislike him

oh wait I don’t have to imagine it - because I’m fed up seeing it

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Teen Wolf and the issue of the hero saves the day

I've got the same(ish) submission for the 3rd time now, so I'm making my own post. Also, ableist terms. Please.

I've said this before, a lot, but just because Scott is the main character, doesn't mean he does better or more than everyone else, or that everyone else's character arcs are about/because of him.

Or at least it should be, but because of that pesky protagonist issue, most character development is kept off screen unless it directly affects Scott.

Was Derek a shitty person? Absolutely, I don't think we have to argue that canon-wise. Did he get a lot of positive character development, and stopped doing those shitty things? Also, absolutely.

But why? Teen Wolf is Scott's story, so you'd assume that he was responsible for that. Invalidate a few teens' trauma, violate Derek, and just be a general nuisance, and congratulations, you have one (1) fully redeemed werewolf. /sarcasm

It has nothing to do with Boyd and Erica leaving and having to reevaluate his alpha-ness while looking for them for 3 (4?) months, or with actually working with Isaac, Peter and Stiles for that, or getting Cora back while loosing Erica and Boyd, or working with Chris, Braeden, etc. /more sarcasm

All of this is canon, but because we only see Scott berating Derek for everything (which goes from don't kill anyone to let me date the people who want me dead fuck you) Scott is the one who gets credit for everything.

And fandom pushes that even further, saying that Derek needed only Scott to be forced to become a better person. Or a whole person apparently, which what?

Though I imagine that if Teen Wolf did actually use Scott as everyone's morality chain we'd then fight about whether or not Scott only exists to fix people through the Power of Abuse Compassion.

That's why so many redemption stories on Teen Wolf just don't work; the show thinks that having Scott forgive people redeemed them, and that everyone who goes against him deserves to be used or tortured.

Let's take Peter for example. (I'm working under the assumption that the deadpool is a mess and that thoughts don't equal actions so it's mostly just Kate) His redemption never revolved around Scott, it's about his family and Lydia. On that aspect, it works.

He helps Derek and Cora, he tries to have some kind of relationship with Malia, Lydia (rightfully) hates him, but they're working on it. As of 3b, he might not be one of the good guys, but he's definitely not a villain anymore.

And then s4, he gets blamed for the deadpool (which, seriously, if ranting about wanting someone dead makes you guilty, Scott has just as much blood on his hands), I still can't see him working with Kate as anything but Scott being useless when it comes to saving Derek, and wanting the alpha spark to kill Kate permanently or heal Derek.

His worst crime is trying to kill Scott. So naturally he deserves to be tortured if not killed at Eichen. /sarcasm

Deucalion and Co killed a few dozen people off screen, kidnapped 3 teens for months, killed 2 of them, but he gets kicked out of town with a slap on the wrist because he can totally do better now. (again, seriously what was that about? Also /sarcasm ) Then he goads Theo into killing a few more teens but it's totally cool, he's working with Scott now. /sarcasm (While everyone Deuc really hurt is conveniently absent or, you know, dead.)

Same with—okay Gerard doesn't get a redemption arc, but the point is still that Scott and Chris decide to cure him (because, again, pain and suffering is a totally humane punishment as long as no one's killing anyone /sarcasm) because now he's useful again; Lydia has no personal feelings about him, the Hale pack is conveniently not there or dead, there's zero evidence that so much as hints that Stiles knows.

It's Scott doesn't need a redemption arc for wanting/trying/failing to kill Stiles, Jackson, Derek, for constantly lying to Allison, and they shouldn't have any issues with him because Werewolves, while turning around and blaming Liam for killing him (because it's only Werewolves if it benefits Scott /sarcasm) and Stiles for idk, seeing Scott's distrust of him and returning the favor I guess (because not wanting to talk about nearly being killed is only acceptable if it's Scott /sarcasm)

Scott on himself did very little, everyone else did just as much if not more, to actually stop the villains/help people. Which isn't a bad thing. Teamwork™ and all that. But celebrating Scott for whatever he helped with, more often than not also means accepting that at least one of the horrible people that need Scott to not just kill half the town (/sarcasm) also had a hand in it, willingly or not.

Which brings us, not really, nicely back around to the double standards. In both fanon and canon.

A lot of my issues with Liam and Scott's handling of that, mirrors Derek's and Peter's behavior perfectly. And things we rightfully got either mad at because you can't just fucking kidnap/stalk/abuse people, or didn't care about because Werewolves™, now have the exact opposite reaction. Scott is just overwhelmed and is Trying His Best, Scott has just been killed by Liam of course he doesn't want him near him.

Of course Scott not wanting to deal with the supernatural and his obsession with having a normal life is a normal trauma response (/not actually sarcasm), but Stiles' obsession with the supernatural is annoying and reckless. /sarcasm

Both are Valid just as much as they're reckless and dangerous.

No matter what Scott does, he is always Right and should not be questioned except for when he has a convenient excuse for why he fucked up and should not be held accountable; while everyone else gets demonized for the same things, while Scott gets the I made them not as much of a jerk as they could have been award.

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Scott: Everytime I go out there I feel I do my best but they don't!

Peter: Let me ask you a very fair question. What do you do successfully?

Scott:

Peter: Quickly.