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can you please discuss enhypen jay natal chart? He said he was born around 2am

sure! ok. first thing. i'm a casual enhypen enjoyer and don't know much about them beyond their music and what i've seen randomly on tiktok, but similarly to how i got a terrible crush on stray kids lee know after looking at his chart, i have emotionally imprinted on jay.

saturn ruled... most importantly a scorpio moon... my son... my brother in arms... you me ive yujin txt hueningkai and twice jihyo... immediately i'm emotionally bonded to you my beloved jay.... He Suffers....

oh fun! right off the bat, i was thinking "wow he gives taurus so strongly just from tiktok clips i've seen, more than a normal sun sign flavor..." and then look at that,

taurus sun at 0!

the sun is your ego, the energy you're working with in this life. sometimes it's what you need to grow to embody more. a planet at 0 is really pure and strong and in your face and not nuance-y. taurus taurus. stubborn, reliable, concerned with physical security and objects. clothes, food, possessions--taurus energy is earthy venus. anything at 0 is very, very strong and visible to everyone. #aesthetics are very important.

oh! oh ho! the sun and neptune are in a duet--the only planets they aspect are each other. (the sun also squares the lunar nodes so there's some karmic shit a-workin too--like his sun or identity being really important to help him resolve the capricorn-cancer lunar node issues which come up again in the 10th-4th house opposition later in this write-up).

when a planet doesn't have any major aspects, or 2 planets only aspect each other, they are super visible to everyone except the person themselves. they operate in extremes, often feel like they're always searching for something and also, more nice and fun, are powerful and represent a real talent! sometimes it's indicative of career--and you really can't write it better than having an idol with unaspected sun and neptune.

unaspected sun: why is everyone always looking at me and drawn to me all the time???? lil ole me???

jay is always trying to figure out his identity and have it like confirmed for him--but no amount of receiving confirmation will satisfy this. he also has a real talent for leadership--but as soon as he proves himself he'll be like yooops, full of insecurity and sunset his way out. he's suuuuper charismatic and something draws the eye to him but he does not see it. people may think he's really like in charge all the time but jay feels very insecure internally and doesn't relate to that at all. he often asserts his identity too much or not enough.

he's very unsure and weird about his own identity but everyone around him is like wow, what a strong and in charge guy who is sure of who he is!!

the sun rules his 7th house of relationships so probably he's really drawn to the idea of relationships but can't quite... get there. possibly he'll shy away and avoid the whole thing, or he wont realize how much he is relying on relationships to define his own identity.

unaspected neptune: why do today what you could put off forever?

unaspected neptune is so cute to me. like it can give this feeling of one-ness with the universe kind of thing, like all-forgiving, all-healing, emotionally supportive of others, pisces vibes--and it can also mean just like so much escapism. often all at the same time!

jay might be like: ah i am a capricorn rising taurus sun who deals with his shit all the time right away #goals while other people: ... girl.... how many things are you procrastinating right now.... OR/AND jay might be like: i can only express love clumsily through acts of service i wish i was better at that... while other people: you are literally the most compassionate person i've ever met in my entire life

neptune co-rules his second house, pisces, but neptune is not accessible so he'll have to get at his second house of money, possessions, resources through his taurus jupiter in the 3rd house--intensely practical. probably good. a pisces second house i'd be worried about their overspending.

also with unaspected neptune in the 1st people are beguiled by him. handy quality for an idol! also he is a real shapeshifter and is regularly in a silly goofy mood. he feels sooooOOOO deeply--and it's not the first thing someone notices about him because saturn is there, but it's so obvious otherwise.

also with the two planets in duet, it's possible that the only way jay is able to access his sense of identity or leadership is through neptune--being of service to others, subsuming the self in the group, that kind of thing. it's more common for a duet to act like 2 unaspected planets though.

taurus-scorpio-aquarius: fixed opposition & squares

taurus in general is weighty in jay's chart--i really notice the scorpio (mc, moon) -- taurus (jupiter, saturn, mars) opposition as the big focus. then you look at the square to this opposition in aquarius (uranus) that is exact from his mars and almost exact from his moon.

so we've got a fixed opposition and fixed squares! fixed oppositions and squares are really concerned with stability and attachment--they tend to put up with things until they just can't anymore. tons of willpower, endurance, ability to withstand things, but lord they hate change.

the main debate here is between scorpio and taurus--the taurus signs are clustered around his IC, or his family, his personal history, and scorpio is up by his MC--super visible.

almost everything in jay's life--his sun (ego, self), his saturn (his chart ruler, his maturation and societal conditoning), his mars (survival instincts) and his jupiter (beliefs) are all pulling him down to be routed in taurus: security, physical body, food, possessions--except he has this opposition with his moon and MC in scorpio that want him to destroy in order to transform. or rather they will attract that, so that he is forced to transform. one side wants to stick with the status quo (no no no) the other one wants to have a big crisis in the way you pull up a big rock to see what's underneath.

taurus-aquarius square is so cute and fun, this is the like. taurus is food, the body, providing, etc, and aquarius is social, humanity, a lil detached, obsessed with being Honest--this is the like. provider square. jay's aquarius uranus (change, being different, yassified mercury) bumps up against his very heavy taurus saturn and mars and the way they can reconcile is by like. disappearing into the kitchen at the dinner party to do the dishes or cook kind of energy.

but wait! another square!

girl jay has so much #transformation and #struggle... so many planets in detriment and fall... so many squares.... .. like it's good, it's part of why people like him (moon on MC) and why he'll be able to survive a lot and gain tons of wisdom throughout his life but.... damn buddy...

at least it's a cardinal square!! a cardinal square or opposition is active. it initiates. it's a leader. it rises and grinds EVERY DAY. it doesn't quit! ever!!!

jay's capricorn ascendant--just a sidebar, i love this for an idol (gidle soyeon and ateez hongjoong are also cap rising saturn girlies)--at 12 capricorn is almost exactly square his mercury in aries and more widley square his venus (in detriment!! add it to the list!!) in aries. thank god for these guys bro. seriously. the aries-capricorn square is everything the fixed square isn't. altho it can be quite uhhhhhhh intense? i like that though idk.

capricorn and aries agree on one thing: they want what they want and they want to #achieve now. they'll do whatever they gotta do. they'll run themselves into the ground, it's whatever. the ends justify the means, baby!! with the ascendant involved, jay is intensely ambitious and has unbelievably harsh goals for himself. with taurus involved, the willpower maxes off the charts.

shit in fall or detriment: let's make a list!!

ok i'm gonna hold my personal bias, scorpio moon (my moon too, rip) for the end.

venus in detriment in aries, 3rd house

venus loves to get along, smooth it over, make everything look nice and pretty (even if it is not!), make connections to others, fall in love, fall in friendship--and aries... does not. aries wants to move forward independently and HATES IT if it feels constrained or controlled in any way. aries is opposite libra for a reason--aries asserts and libra is like "whatever you want is fine!"

with aries venus i tend to think it's like almost exclusively they want to be in charge in a relationship, or at least be made to feel like they are in charge--but because venus is in detriment it's kind of confused and trying out things so an aries venus might truly convince themselves that actually they are #chill and #gowiththeflow (they are not).

the 3rd house is the gemini house, which is fun and cute and social. his venus priorities are often his immediate surroundings--the place, the people--and very, very extroverted (the 3rd house isn't always extroverted but the other factors look like that).

let's hit it with some aspects!!

most exact one is trine chiron (the wounded healer) in sagittarius in the 11th. this is exact exact, its orb is 0.01. bro. it's strong, and it's so cute!! help!! sagittarius and the 11th are both sort of philosophical, teacher-y positions, and venus trine chiron here shows he can really heal and be healed through teaching and guiding others. stop. he really has a lot of empathy and is able to see and appreciate people including their faults. stop. this is really big teary eyes emoji.

quincunx moon in scorpio in the 10th-- bud..... maybe it's ok to let people fail for themselves sometimes instead of taking on burdens for everyone... .. ur value is not in this ability... .bud???

square capricorn ascendant: there's a conflict between his purpose in life, or like his driving energy to make things, to lead things, to structure things and his aries venus which wants to set out on its own but also his venus itself which is relationships. capricorn (society) v. aries (the self).

trine sag pluto in the 11th: he's suuuuuper magnetic and people are drawn to him but he almost like. doesn't believe people will like him for himself and not what he looks like? but his personal artistic vision and communication of that vision or that art (venus in 3rd) is easily blown up to the world (trine pluto in the 11th house).

2.mars in detriment in taurus, 4th house

ok. we're gonna get into this more in the #3 but saturn and mars in the fourth house aren't... baller placements for a happy childhood ha ha? saturn shows judgment and restriction at home and mars shows both a drive to action (like he won't be able to sit still at home, he'll have to constantly be doing shit) but also possible aggression (from him or a family member) in his childhood.

anyway mars is an action, assertion, driving planet and taurus wants to go the hell home. taurus does not particularly want to drive or assert, taurus wants shit to stay stable--so someone with a taurus mars might not make changes when they should, but rather just put up with shit they don't like.

with mars and taurus together in the 4th house (home, family) jay cannot sit down and relax at home ever. if you want him to take a break he cannot do it at home because there is always shit to be done. ok let's do some aspects!!

exactly opposite moon in scorpio in the 10th --- haha. hahahaha. haha. well. this one isn't easy. probably there was a lot of tension at home when he was growing up and he internalized the unspoken whatever that was going on around him, and now he's super attuned to any hint of conflict. he's probably really protective of others, often because it felt like the home or family was threatened in some way when he was a child, so now he'll be intensely protective of his family even if it's not beneficial to himself. still, lots of honestly and emotional courage--he feels something and he acts, which is good (although can get him into trouble if not managed well)

mars square uranus in aquarius in the 1st, exact: uranus is important to his identity in the 1st house and in its co-ruler house aquarius, whereas mars is not super comfy either in taurus or in the cancer-y 4th house, but they come together pretty naturally. it's also a fun combo because the energy explosion is wild. endless. decisive, willful, stubborn, doesn't care about typical conventions, great leader because he can face things others don't want to face. he should be careful about accidents with the physical body--accident-prone.

quincunx chiron in sag in the 11th: he doesn't assert himself as much as he should--he lets other people take the reins too much because he doesn't want to cause drama. can get sulky.

mars in the saturn decan: practical, structured, focuses on what is feasible rather than what is possible

3.moon in fall in scorpio in the 10th house

mmm. ok. so let's just say. if ur moon is in scorpio. u probably have mommy issues. sorry!!! if you have nice aspects to the moon maybe it's less direct mommy issues and more like, ur mother had a bad childbirth experience or was going Through It when you were born or something, but usually if i see another scorpio moon i'm like... i know what you are.... if we know things about jay's mom and she seems cool that might be true, but his relationship with her has caused him a lot of emotional pain. any relationship isn't usually all bad, but this is a very real factor for him i think. someone can be a cool person and still make a lot of mistakes as a parent. i mean, everyone likes my mom, so i know how that goes!

in the 10th house this also shows a lot of judgment--jay (a) was judged harshly as a child and (b) judges his own emotional sensitivity, and now he seeks emotional safety through his career and through the public sphere, which is honestly ok if it's not the only place he feels safe, you know?

but he's gotta... jay u gotta go to therapy... buddy... a scorpio moon hides the SHIT out of their own sensitivity and inner pain and girl there is a lot of it. he probably feels deeply misunderstood a lot of the time.

ok we talked about moon opposite mars before

moon opposite saturn in taurus in the 4th-- ahh. well. well well. i can't lie to u. he did not have a nice nurturing childhood. he was probably parentified or in another way had to grow up really early and be responsible for his own emotional care which ironically means that now he still has that child self very active and needy inside!!

he felt rejected as a kid and learned he could only rely on himself. because of that early rejection he really tries to fit in and please people. he is so loyal and takes the feelings of others seriously but he never feels safe for one (1) minute so he is always trying to create a situation where he can be safe emotionally. he is always expecting things to go wrong!

even if he had a hard experience with his family he's really gonna support them, and not be able to individuate without some serious emotional work

buddy!! therapy!! please!!

square uranus in aquarius in the 1st, exact-- again??? again????? parents who maybe felt ambivalent about being parents. there was inconsistency in his early life and he moved a lot. not a lot of stability. even though a huge part of jay wants stability, the emotional-uranus part of him wants to move constantly and change everything. touring probably feels `emotionally safe to him in a way. part of him feels like an alien anywhere he goes, like culturally. he is super super sensitive and intuitive but he sometimes reads rejection when there isn't any there.

moon conjunct MC: ateez wooyoung has this too--it's like an emotional attachment and fulfillment through their career and through like, broadcasting that emotional connection. often very caring of the people the work with, often he feels like is career is caring for others in itself

the emphasis on the 10th-4th house axis and his capricorn-cancer lunar nodes and his moon in the 10th shows his big #journey in this life is coping with family and belonging shit. with his pluto in the 11th his deep soul security need is for liberation from social conditioning. he feels alienated or alone a lot, different from other people, even if he isn't. his soul will feel safe when he can liberate from some of those restrictive ideas of society and also engage in community in a way that feels like he belongs. also there's probably some past life stuff exacerbating everything!

whew what a journey. anyway i'm emotionally bonded to him now, he's my brother and my son thank u.

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