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[sowthetide]

is there such a thing as quenlyn universe thramsay? personally, I like thramsay not solely because of evil yaoi (lmao) but because of how ramsay is very much a theon accessory character that orbits him and is sort of designed to be his dark mirror and sort of links up to the trauma reenactment conga line theon as roose thing ---- sorry I'm incoherent and my initial question is also not what I fully mean, but how will that look with quen's being a lady with not much to inherit? love your fic so much mwah mwah

I must always play coy about my intentions with Ramsay so I don't spoil the upcoming chapters, but suffice it to say, things will nottttt go as well for him in this fic as they went in canon (so far, at least. Bro is so dead in TWOW).

I'm actually a bit of a closet Thramsay enjoyer. Not cause I think it's like, a healthy dynamic or anything lol (and I actually really dislike BDSM-style takes on their relationship), but Ramsay is an indelible part of Theon's life. "Dark mirror" is a good word for it, as both Ramsay and Theon (to me at least) show the cracks in the north's righteous facade. Theon is called a turncloak by the very same lords that fell in line behind the Boltons after the Red Wedding, and Ramsay's horrific treatment of him (not to mention that of Jeyne Poole) goes almost completely unchallenged. Not to say Theon's some innocent darling, but even Robb implicitly agrees to his torture, which is... interesting, to say the least.

There's just so much thematic juice to their dynamic, from the class tension to the "revenge" Ramsay enacts on Theon. Ramsay devises the scheme to murder the miller's wife and sons (to pass them off as Bran and Rickon), but he is, himself, the son of a miller's wife. He's baseborn and, yet he gets away with the rape and murder of a widowed highborn woman (Donella Hornwood), and his resentment of Theon's highborn status is why he made Reek, who is Ramsay's servant. In ASOS onward, he is the malignant tumor that the north refused to eliminate, he is the rot that has been left to fester, he is an indictment of the north itself (now I'm getting kinda dramatic but you get my point).

I promised absolutely NO Reekification of Quen in this fic, and I don't wanna give away what I've got planned, but if I had to spitball about what Quen-Ramsay might look like, well...

It's Not Good. You're right that Quen has nothing to inherit, though she had some use as a bride/link between houses. Unfortunately, the only way for Ramsay's ruse to work in this fic is if Quen is dead (or presumed dead). So either he kills her, or keeps her alive as his captive, but death would probably be preferable... 😬

Anyway, thank you for another lovely ask! I have Thoughts about Ramsay and his place in the narrative, and it's been fun just throwing stuff out there lol.