#「ᵃᶰᵒᶰʸᵐᵒᵘˢ」ᵗʰᵉ ᵍʳᵉʸ ʷᵃˡᵏᵉʳˢ

[killthebxy]

We all know how we feel about s8, but hearing arya say @ Jon "not my half brother, not my bastard brother. My brother." Kills me everytime

          but you see, friend — that’s exactly what s08 has done to us. it’s set the bar so low that anything will look good when all we expect is a vast desert of nothingness — even things that ARE supposed to be like that. to the point where we’re given 1 (one) scene where Jon and Arya love each other more than anything/anybody else in the universe and we’re like omg how nice!!!!, as if this isn’t supposed to be the default state of affairs. as if, in nearly every single of their POV chapters, they do not reference the other and how much they miss the other and how they would give everything and bend every rule to be reunited again with the other. but i do see your point! it just bugs me beyond belief that we feel as though we should thank Mr. Dumb Writer 1 and Mr. Dumb Writer 2 for giving us the basics of who Jon Snow and Arya Stark are, as though they’re doing us all a big favor.

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          asfjfdjdfjldf thank you so much for this sweet thing, friend??? i’ve been so busy with work + university and with so little time to spare for writing here... and therefore it is so wonderful to still get so much love and appreciation, even if my contribution to actual roleplay has been so diminished for the time being. it really means the world, and thank you so much for sending it my way! and while i’m here:

@arcusignis & @zcldrizes & @valyrianflame & @hakune & @needlcd & @longmayshereignxcersei & @theeldestsun & @thesellsword & @exilekniight & @tymptir & @talltalkr & @crownedclaw & @tyrion & @alordnamedsnow & @rebxrnbyfire & @crowncdcrow & @starkmatriarch & @handofhonor & @fifthbornforrester & @saltxwolf & @hrodohaide & @selfishisuppose & @boltxnbastard & @wolfqueennamedstark & @brycecousland & @naathborn & @starfrckled & @wildfireyes & @onlycertainty & @asgardianhammer & @vaettiir

          let me share it then, with some of my favorit-est persons here --- who make this blog such an amazing experience and who bless mine & the snowball’s life with their beautiful presence in it, and i hope they are having a great day and also that they know how much i love & adore them ❤❤❤

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Who are some really good people you'd recommend following? Either in the fandom or outside of it.

          ahhhh too many to list, nonnie! i have the privilege of writing with so many absolutely amazing roleplayers, who are also the most beautiful people inside and out! so i am going to just list the few first ones coming to my mind, and i have no doubt i’ll miss a huge lot of them:

@arcusignis & @zcldrizes & @blodistridi & @kingwholost & @lcgendaris & @needlcd & @wolfqueennamedstark & @boltxnbastard & @satincrow & @valyrianflame & @crownedclaw & @tymptir & @deltiitnu & @tyrion & @tyrxshisword & @boltxnbastard & @twiicetheheart & @scldsouls & @dcllparted & @timeripe & @reekcd & @hrodohaide & @thesellsword & @wineinthewidow & @murroyilodel & @longmayshereignxcersei & @asgardianhammer & @trickstercaptain & @thecodekeeper & @hanjithenewcommander & @handofhonor & @starkmatriarch & @impiae & @mythxcbitch & @marblecarved & @justheirs & @takenwings & @matriarcarivera & @axgmented & @blackmage-lulu & @misplacedheroics & @withanarmy & @wolveshonor & @leechcd & @leeriverofwordsjordan & @feasgar & @fallesto & @estoires & @seesgood & @seesbright & @songtouch & @stcrmswithskin & @starfrckled & @archerbcy & @atonings & @faunabones & @butscrewmefirst & @brycecousland & @jaimelannisterthings & @nctbitten & @ashccra & @notlikegcds & @theeldestsun & @fifthbornforrester & @rhaegxr & @vaedar & @ofthewhitehands & @steel-winter-rose & @snarkofstark & @peaceinourrtime & @snowmcid & @fircandfury & @fiercerebekah & @kolhearted & @treesprung & @kingsleigh & @perfectiontm & @perzyr & @epheemere & @qeldliie & @exilekniight & @talltalkr

also, you can check my promo tag: CLICK

[killthebxy]

hey! I'm kind of new to the GOT rp community and I was wondering if you could recommend some blogs? maybe some Starks and other Jons, some Daenerys and other big characters? thank you :D

          hello friend, first of all --- welcome and we’re thrilled to have you! <3 i am certain that i’m going to forget beautiful and amazing people and i apologize in advance, but let me try:

for Jon, please go look at my wonderful twins --- @rebxrnbyfire & @northernhonor & @bastxrdofwinterfell & @lcrdcrow & @strengthanddevotion

Starklings: @needlcd & @lcgendaris & @wildncss & @wolfqueennamedstark & @songtouch & @auburnwolf & @snowmcid & @sanscreginc & @sansov & @northeir & @blodistridi & @boywarg & @withanarmy & @kingwholost

Dany: @zcldrizes & @valyrianflame & @targayrien & @lastxdragon

some other major characters: @tyrion & @crownedclaw & @goldenwitted & @tymptir & @wineinthewidow & @longmayshereignxcersei & @exilekniight & @naathborn & @perzyr & @talltalkr & @thesellsword & @reekcd & @kingsblccd & @thcbull & @ladyrcd & @bearchiild & @keepfcith

          again --- i have no doubt i am not naming A TON of wonderful blogs and portrayals, so the best thing you can do is to keep an eye out for the promos that go fluttering around the dash :)

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Who is your fav? Is it edmund?

          you are not too far, nonnie, because i do love him and i think by far he’s the most complex and layered character — and i was just commenting that he’s got a lot of potential to be an anti-hero, if the story went differently. and i also love Lucy with all my soul and i have officially adopted her.

          but. at the end my heart ended up going to Peter, because a lot in him reminds me of Jon. especially when this young boy is just made commander out of nowhere and made to fight a war that isn’t even his technically. and how protective he is of his little siblings, and the way he reacts to Edmund going missing. and also he rides a unicorn to war, how extra do you have to be.

[killthebxy]

Did you hear your sister Sansa married Alliser Thorne?

^^^the only reaction possible.

@wolfqueennamedstark & @faunabones EXPLAIN

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I apologize in this seems abrasive, I just noticed how vehemently you're against the show canon. I don't blame you one bit. But wouldn't Dany being Nissa Nissa just be another way of making her a plot device for a man? Just in a more socially acceptable way than D&D did? It has the same outcome and it's still her dying by the hands of the man she loves.

          thank you for your question, friend! before i answer, let me make a disclaimer: 1) i am writing this as someone who loves Jon Snow, and therefore someone who’s biased in his favor, and 2) i am writing this as a man talking about a man. so, while i like to believe i was raised well and i can do a rational and mostly objective analysis, i am still grounded in my own experiences and my own perspectives. and nothing of what i’ll say is “the truth” or “what’s right” — simply, my own personal opinion.

          with this said… i have to start by saying that we can look at this, as we can look at most things in life, from two perspectives: we look only at the outcome, or we look at the process and at everything that led to a certain outcome. and i think this is a case where this distinction is essencial. because if you look at the outcome only — yes, the end result is exactly the same; Dany dies at the hand of Jon, a woman dies at the hand of a man. but this would be like me looking at the season finale and thinking: well, Jon got exactly the endgame i always wanted for him, so i have nothing to complain about — i can’t do this. i can’t ignore everything that brought him to this outcome, i.e., the process. i can’t ignore that his essence as George’s character was completely destroyed to lead to this apparently perfect outcome.

          so, if we look at Dany dying in the show, what do we see? i, at least, see a narrative written for the sole purpose of stating: this woman is mad, she needs to be removed and we’ll make her be removed by the hand of the man she loves for bonus shock points. this is literally all i see. i know some people defend there was already signs of Dany going mad, how for example the throne room covered in ash like it happened in her vision in the House of the Undying in s02. and to this i ask two questions: 1) as someone who knows what D&D have been doing to this series, do you guys seriously believe they, back in like 2012 or whenever s02 happened, had the capacity to plan this far ahead for the sake of a plot that has continuity?; 2) as someone who is a researcher and a science nerd — if we look at data in retrospective, we can make this data give us literally any outcome we want, provided we apply the suitable statistical analysis. in this case, if we look back through the seasons, yes, we can definitely find arguments that Dany was going mad, if we want. BUT. we can also look back through the seasons and find arguments that Dany was someone with a good heart, who made mistakes and bad decisions but who wanted to be a kind and just ruler for her people. so, whatever we extract from this series in retrospective is whatever we want to find. this much is on us, not on D&D’s capacity to build a continuous and coherent plot because this much we all agree is non-existent.

          now, if we look at the idea of Jon being Azor Ahai reborn, and Dany being Nissa Nissa reborn… first of all, this is as much based on personal headcanons as the previous point is built on what the show gives us. i cannot judge this idea based on facts, because this never happened in the show neither in the books — everything i put together for this idea is based on my own creativity, like for example in the background i wrote for my mad king verse, or on everything i have discussed with @zcldrizes. in the first case, my verse, it is actually interesting you brought up this question because i have wondered about it myself. am i doing this in a sensible way? am i not using Dany (and everyone else included in that background) just for my own purpose? and, in a way, i am — i admit that i am, because my outcome was that Jon is crowned and slowly loses himself, and to reach this outcome i needed to build a background that supports it in a logical way. i dislike the idea that being Targaryen = inexorably being mad, therefore i tried to put together a storyline where trauma and grief bring him to this — for which i needed vital characters to die, as they are the ones he loves the most. this is why i tried to give them a purpose in that verse, and not just state that they died because they had to, so to speak. this is also why that verse is very flexible and can accommodate many different possibilities, because i wanted everyone who’s possibly interested in writing that idea with me to be able to fit their muse in, and not just be excluded because “sorry but your muse needs to die so that Jon can go mad”. which, in turn, this is why this verse in particular only works with extensive plotting with my roleplay partners.

          and now let me quickly apologize, because i know i am digressing a lot! but i need all this foundation to ultimately answer your question with the depth it requires, so please bear with me. because this is bringing me close to the core of the question — if Dany is Nissa Nissa, doesn’t this make her a plot device for Jon? for this, i have to state my perspective on what a plot device is: a character whose only (or limited) purpose in a narrative is to provoke something else of note for another character. three blatant examples when it comes to Jon: Rickon Stark, whose only purpose to be brought back was to be killed in front of Jon, for the sake of triggering Jon into that mad rage that would have resulted in losing the battle against Ramsay if it wasn’t for Sansa’s intervention; Benjen Stark, whose only purpose to be brought back was to provide a semi-rational justification for Jon to be able to return to Eastwatch; Grey Worm, who was made to attack the unarmed Golden Company after they yielded just for the sake of making Agony Targaryen look like this honorable man who’d never put up with this. and now a blatant example when it comes to Daenerys: Missandei, who had to be beheaded whilst back in chains for the sake of being the ultimate trigger for Dany going mad. arguably, Missandei and Grey Worm had a much broader purpose than Benjen and Rickon, but the logic is the same. all of them, in the end, became plot devices that had their own story and identity erased for the sake of fueling another “superior” character.

          and this is why i personally don’t see Dany = Nissa Nissa as being at the same level, or as a plot device. a plot turning point? yes, definitely. a plot device, no, because i personally don’t think this erases her story and identity and purpose. again, let me reiterate that this is based on what Artie and i have plotted — i cannot talk for what might have happened in the show, or what may happen in the books — because it will depend on the process they follow to lead to this potential outcome. Artie and i have a very long, very complex plot when it comes to shipping Jon and Dany. we consider every single detail, and we’re always mindful of not erasing anything from the other’s muse. and, in our case, Dany would be a sacrifice, yes, but never a plot device. she would give her life for the purpose of forging the only weapon able to destroy the Night King and ending the Long Night — NEVER for the purpose of glorifying Jon and make him emerge from this tale as the hero who saved us all. if anything, i think no one will disagree if i say that staying alive after killing your lover by your own hand is far from being a happier ending when compared to said lover who died. it is a sacrifice for Dany, who loses her life, and it is a sacrifice for Jon, who stays alive but loses literally everything else that gave meaning to his life. and this is why i love the prophecy/legend of Lightbringer, actually, because it is based on a meaningful tragedy. it’s mutual sacrifice, it’s having a bond so strong that it is the catalyst to save this world.

          just to conclude now, if you ask me: are more female characters, compared to male characters, used as plot devices? i have no doubt of this. are more female characters used with the single purpose of fueling male characters’ pain? i have no doubt of this. are more female characters erased and belittled for the sake of glorifying male characters and put them under a positive light? i have no doubt of this. trust me, nonnie, no one in this world hates Agony Targaryen more than i do. no one in this world hates more the way in which my favorite character was portrayed as someone who’s only good and honorable when a character like Daenerys has to be ruined and removed. and i will say this to my dying breath: this thing is NOT Jon Snow and it makes me genuinely sad that people may for even a second believe this thing is anything resembling Jon Snow. i am the first one being here to vehemently (to use your word) criticize all of this, which is exactly why i have gone majorly show divergent — even during s07 i was already stating i would never acknowledge the annulment, exactly because i would never want Elia Martell to be a plot device in this regard. and please note: i’m not saying any of this to make myself look good — look at me i’m such a great guy i respect women! — i respect women, and female characters, because they DESERVE to be respected. and everything i have ditched from show!canon, i did because these amazing characters deserve so much better, and my amazing roleplay buddies who write these amazing characters deserve so much better, AND Jon Snow, my favorite character whom i love dearly, deserves so much better than to be turned into D&D’s sad puppet.

          i really hope i answered your question, friend? tl;dr — i am vehemently against Agony killing Dany in the show the way it was done, because it reduces Daenerys to a plot device and reduces Jon to someone who can only have merit if other characters become plot devices in his favor. on the other hand, in the scenario where Jon is Azor Ahai reborn and Dany is Nissa Nissa reborn, i personally see it at a completely different level, even if the outcome is technically the same — because it is a scenario highly plotted and developed by myself and Artie, and because exactly we are always very mindful to never do this to these characters whom we both love. obviously she loves Dany more and understands her better, and i love Jon more and i understand him better, but this is why we team up to salvage this ship we love and that was utterly ruined by the show. and this is why the only context where we accept Jon killing Daenerys is for the ultimate purpose of tempering Lightbringer — where Dany chooses her fate, and Jon endures the consequences of his actions.

BONUS POINTS:

          so, because we are a partnership, i shared this ask and my own response with Artie — to get her opinion as someone who writes Daenerys and understands her better than i do, as i mentioned above, and also to have her perspective as a woman. the next points, therefore, are credited to @zcldrizes to complement my own:

          Firstly, on being a plot device. I think the important thing about this is that we as the viewers are wired to look through the lense of Dany to see her as a hero, with an ultimate purpose. We have the entirety of her journey, with a backstory about her struggle for home, the fact she has suffered hardship after hardship. In my opinion, she was born “meant for something more” - and the very existence of her dragons, the fact she’s somewhat fire insensitive, all proves that she is not quite normal, compared to everyone around her. Her own journey and arc have been not just about finding home, but restoring and living up to her family’s name, and making a difference in the world through whatever ways she chooses, whether that be liberation, or saving innocent people. Her death in Season 8 served no purpose for her arc, other than to neatly line up what they needed for Jon’s storyline. Her madness in Season 8 served no purpose, other than allowing a mostly male council to choose their new male overlord, after condemning her as mad when overrun with grief. But if she was Nissa Nissa, and sacrificed her life not for Jon’s manpain, but to save the entire world, and in a way that leaves her the true hero of the story, then I think that means she’s not just a plot device. She’s a hero. And no, I don’t think she’s just driving that plot; I think the point is she made a difference to the world.

          Secondly, and the more important part of this - show canon removes her female autonomy, assuming she’s not in a rational state of mind, and then villainises her for emotion and grief. For it then to have her killed in a moment where she so very clearly places her trust in the man kissing her, a man she clearly loves, removes all autonomy because she didn’t consent to what was coming, and didn’t know it would happen. All of her ability to predict that behaviour is gone, which means she had no knowledge of her death, and thus, the scene occurs in a way that leaves those rules particularly unbalanced. A Nissa Nissa scenario is something she consents to; something she wants because it’s right, and it’ll save the world, and this is the most important thing. Daenerys gets to choose to die saving the world she wanted to build. 

          Finally, on the outcome and whether or not this is just to be more feminist friendly and socially acceptable. The first thing to note is that the outcome isn’t the same. In one, she dies after going mad because her male counterpart has deemed her unsafe to live with how insane she is. In the other, she dies to save the world - and importantly, consents to doing so. And depending on the way the rest of the thread runs, I suspect it would be very well known what she gave up in order to keep the people of the Seven Kingdoms safe. So rather than this being to get the traction of anyone saying this isn’t a sexist ending, consider: yes, it’s a socially acceptable ending, but only because it acknowledges the strength of women in whatever they do to contribute to the world. Daenerys deserved better than to die as a rabid dog for the slaughter; but in saying that, an extraordinary woman deserved an extraordinary death, and what better way than dying saving the world?

          Finally, feminism celebrates choice in all forms - Dany would have chosen to die as Nissa Nissa, and if that empowered her, we shouldn’t condemn that.

[killthebxy]

How do you deal with seeing duplicates and others you rp with, rping with other people who rp the same character that you do?

          honestly, i do love duplicates — because the gods know i always have so much to say about Jon, and to talk about him with people who love him like i do is always so good! though, at the same time, i do also understand duplicate anxiety, because we are humans and we are social beings, and therefore we have this tendency to go and compare ourselves with others. and there is nothing wrong with this! it doesn’t make us weak, it doesn’t make us anything close to bad or wrong. i have my own moments of insecurity, especially because i write such a popular muse with such a big impact on both show and books, and therefore there are always at least 5-6 other active roleplayers of Jon — i have my moments of doubting my writing and portrayal, of wondering if i am giving Jon the justice he deserves. and, just as much, i also have my moments of wondering if maybe my rp partners have a preference for another Jon and if eventually they will rather write with that person and not with me, or even if i am letting them down entirely.

          so, when it comes to this… i think the “secret” is to look at tumblr the way you look at real life. do you expect EVERYBODY in real life to like you and prefer you? do you expect to walk into a café and all 50 persons in there will become your good friends? no, right? this is not realistic — some people will like us, some won’t, some will like us but still prefer somebody else. and i think it’s essential to realize this and accept this, both irl and here. there is something that i always say: focus your time and energy on what makes you happy, not on what makes you upset or angry. maybe you won’t be best friends with 400 people and 400 people won’t prefer you and your version of your muse — but, hey, focus on the 20 that love you then! or the 10, or even if it is just one single person — if somebody holds you in such high esteem, don’t belittle them just because somebody else doesn’t. i know this is easier said than done and i know it sucks, when you really really want to interact with a person but they don’t have the same enthusiasm, for whatever reason — but this happens and this will happen, and it is on us to accept it and to move on. this does not determine our worth as a roleplayer and much less as a person. and if there is one thing life has taught me, and that i actually see reflected here on tumblr, it is that you are always worth more than you believe and you will always find someone who treats you the same way you treat them. so never sell yourself short, and please never belittle yourself in order to be accepted — i promise there are wonderful persons out there waiting to meet you, sometimes it just takes a bit longer to find your safe haven.

          …i’m not sure if i have answered your question, nonnie, and i do apologize because it’s so easy for me to digress and just ramble. but in a nutshell: maybe give your duplicates a try if you haven’t yet, this could be a chance to make very good friends with similar interests — or, if they truly raise your anxiety and make you uncomfortable, use the block and blacklist functions. there is no shame in this, we are not all the same and we should prioritize our own well-being as long as we’re not harming anybody else. and when it comes to your mutuals or friends writing with duplicates of your muse — please remember that you are unique and you portray your muse in a way nobody else can — they write with you because they appreciate YOU. you don’t have to be perfect and you don’t have to be better than anybody, and i’m sure this is never expected of you. the friends who love you will stay with you even if 600 duplicates appear, and the others who move along… well, it’s inevitable sometimes and, again, i know this can be very hurtful. some people are not compatible at all, some people don’t get invested as much as others. it’s normal, it’s life. you cannot choose whether or not this will happen, but you can choose how to respond to it and you have the power in you to find your happy place.

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In relation to your reblog about the NK dying and it meaning nothing in the end: Just some random thought, though you're not at all obliged to agree or anything! Personally, I got really upset that it seemed like it was over like nothing. Then I thought about it, it says a lot that human beings are the bigger threat. If that makes sense? Their greed, their desire, their way to flip from horrible to decent and back again. Humans are so much scarier. And sadly, the ugly throne embodies that.

          this is a beautiful view, nonnie, thank you for sharing AND all the more for trying to cheer me up with it ❤ i do agree actually! humans have done far worse things in this series, show and book wise. i just feel so bummed with how ��easily” it was ended because… one, i was honestly very disappointed that Lightbringer was completely forgotten — it is one of my favorite prophecies, despite of who is the prince that was promised. and it’s not even the case of it being a book!canon only thing, because Stannis had it. Mel talked of it, Mel talked of the prince — even at the start of s07. and suddenly Lightbringer doesn’t matter for anything at all. not to mention, it makes no sense that the Night King survived Drogon’s flame but died from Valyrian steel. the Others are weak to three things: Valyrian steel, fire, dragonglass — so either the Night King dies from all three, or from none and requires a special weapon. AND. even if the show claims that dagger is Lightbringer in the end, it was never tempered. again, i sigh that they bypassed such a beautiful prophecy.

          my main reason to be bummed, though… is what i ranted about in the tags. Jon spent 3 seasons begging for people to forget their personal interests and to unite, he got SO much backlash from this even from his own lords and family — and the feeling i have, now, is that it’s as though that never mattered. why did they even go beyond the Wall then? why did Jon die in that frozen lake for the sake of bringing a wight to King’s Landing? Jon did SO MUCH, and he is the reason that every person who is at Winterfell for this battle is there — directly or indirectly, and now it feels as though everything he went through meant nothing. i was already sad during episode 1, at the treatment he got from the northern lords, and now it’s gone back to the same. zero appreciation for this boy/man who carries the world on his back.

[killthebxy]

Hi could you please be sure to tag your nsfw? Thanks!

          i do tag it, friend — “graphic” and “graphic cw” — this blog has been running on the queue for the most part, but i just double-checked my posts in the past three days to confirm that i didn’t accidentally forget to tag anything. when in doubt, you can always check my Rules page [click], as i have my tagging system referenced there :)

[killthebxy]

Aside from Arya, who’s death would have the biggest reaction from Jon?

          i feel like this question is both very easy and very hard… Arya is definitely the epitome of it, as you pointed, because their bond is just that strong, pure, earnest, untouchable. which, at the same time, leaves everyone else a bit at the same level? i /might/ say that it would possibly be Robb… if we forget he’s already dead ofc, but. after Arya, Jon has ever been closest with Robb. but at the same time, Bran or Rickon would hurt him equally, as would Ygritte or Sam or any of his good friends at the Watch or Dany, or Sansa after they reunited and slowly began mending their relationship.

          so… i think i will say it would be Ghost, actually. because this isn’t a matter of who Jon loves most — he would gladly die for any of the above, without hesitation, plus a few others like Ned or Benjen or Tormund. but if we take this as a bond — then, yes, i believe it would be Ghost, because Ghost is Jon’s soulmate. and should Ghost die, so would a part of him.

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"I think I have to tell you---" the little girl called, hurrying after the warden of the north who she still considered to be her king. "---they asked me to defend the crypts so I won't be fighting in the field with the others. I don't want you to think I ran away, I just help the women and other children and keep them safe."

          the soft voice eases his steps, in a hurry that he was to go check on the armory yet again — more dragonglass daggers to be fetched and distributed, a task currently transcending titles and station; washerwoman and warden alike, stable boy and highborn lady, the Dead will make no distinction. but he halts for her, turns around and suddenly has a smile at such words — not the one he forces on his lips to answer to almost everyone else, but a genuine one born from such kindness and innocence; precisely, what he will ever KEEP FIGHTING FOR. dropping to one knee, he leaves the burned hand atop her head to gently muss her hair.

‘ that’s quite all right, sweetling — you will be of great use to them. leave the rest to me. ‘

[killthebxy]

Have you ever heard of the enneagram personality test? If so, what do you think Jon would be?

          i do know it! and actually it is interesting to me, considering it’s got an actual psychometric theory underlying it and it’s not just those questionable personality tests you find in the internet. sadly though, i don’t know much of it and therefore i cannot make a proper assessment in regards to Jon — however nonnie, if i ever get more seriously into it, you can be sure i’ll make a post with his results!

[killthebxy]

I'm curious. I know you chose a different au for your Jon, but don't you feel like that godmods and compromises Ned's character as a noble man?

          thank you so much for this question, nonnie, as it is excellent and allows me to explore my decision further. first, i already leaned towards this idea way before the time for s08 approached. even by the end of s06, when the revelation was first made through Bran’s vision, i was kinda… i didn’t completely dislike the idea, for it has potential to be awesome if done right and properly developed, but i didn’t go crazy for it either. i do love Ned as Jon’s biological true father, and i do prefer pretty much any other option to Rhaegar — and this when i get to write and plot with someone as talented as @rhaegxr, who understands the character so, so well and his details and his quirks and his grey areas. you could say this much is a bit of pure personal preference — the same way my favorite color is blue, Ned is my favorite for Jon’s father. but i will come back to this.

          now. why have i decided to go show canon divergent on this? first and foremost, because i follow book canon for the most part — and, in book canon and as far as the story goes, Jon is the son of Ned Stark with an unknown woman — someone possibly called Wylla, if we think about the chat with Robert in one of the first chapters in the first book. and, until (and if ever) George makes it explicit and official in either TWOW or ADOS, this is the canon that i will follow in my personal interpretation. if this happens, then at the time i will read those chapters and i will judge them for myself and i will decide what to do.

          another reason that i won’t discuss much in this ask, because i have already written this meta regarding the topic, is the way the show conducted the whole thing — aka the annulment and the absolute lack of respect for Elia Martell AND for Jon himself. this by itself bothers me enough to make me not really want to have anything to do with this idea at all, which is why i have mostly ditched it save for threads plotted otherwise. right now, i am not sure what will i do regarding what has happened so far in s08… but, very honestly, i’m leaning towards rejecting that canon entirely even in show-based only threads. i will likely make my decision after ep2.

          as for the last part of your question — again, thank you for asking because that is a very valid point. it can be seen that way — because Ned indeed being Jon’s biological father implies that he committed adultery. but here, exactly, is where i start raising my points. first, would this truly compromise, to use your own words, Ned’s character as a noble man? as in, assuming a person makes one mistake in their life, should this dictate everything they are and erase everything else good and positive they do? to me, personally, not at all — but i fully acknowledge this is my opinion only, and it is perfectly fine for others to not agree with me. but this also brings me to my second point: do you know why i love George’s characters so much, nonnie? for how realistic and complex they are. if you exclude children such as Shireen and Rickon and Tommen, among others, you do NOT find a character who is completely good or completely bad. sure, we have awful lads like Joffrey or Ramsay, just to name the most obvious ones, but even them have a backstory and motives to be the way they are — motives, not excuses. they aren’t just the embodiment of all chaos and spawns of Satan just because and for the sake of being edgy. on the other hand, characters who are mostly good and kind and honorable, such as Jon himself or Davos or Sam, have flaws and shortcomings and some of them have dark spots in their past. whilst some are closer to black and some are closer to white, all of George’s characters (save the exceptions i mentioned) fall in the grey area. as we all do, as human beings who exist in the real world. 

          and THIS is why i like the idea of Ned as Jon’s father even if this means a stain on Ned’s honor — because this makes him human. realistic. this makes him a man who tries his very best to be honorable and noble and everything good, but he is not perfect. he is not immaculate. to use a common expression, he fucks up like everyone does. and i really, really like this. i don’t personally enjoy perfect pristine untouchable characters who can do no wrong and never once faltered --- i enjoy characters who make me relate to them and to their struggles, their conflict, their weakness, their flaws. and just to conclude: i like this idea because Jon himself holds Ned in the highest regard not in spite of this, but because of it. all he ever wanted more in his life was to make Ned proud, because he considered him the most honorable man even if he once slipped in such a raucous manner. and, for example, when Jon is trying with all his might to resist Ygritte as to keep his vows but eventually succumbs --- it is Ned he immediately thinks of: was he as weak as i am, when he dishonored himself in my mother's bed? Ned is absolutely central in Jon’s identity and narrative, and he does not need to be perfect and completely flawless to be so, in my very humble opinion.

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          ……….I DID NOT KNOW IT IS ONE OF MY TWIN’S BIRTHDAY WOW I ALMOST MISSED IT. FIRST OF ALL — HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY GOOD PRECIOUS SWEET AMAZING GHOST, I HOPE IT IS THE BEST ONE AND PLEASE NEVER FORGET I LOVE & CHERISH YOU SO MUCH.

          now — i am very biased because everyone knows that, if you write Jon Snow and love him as much as i do, this immediately makes us best friends. with these three gems, though? it spans so much beyond this — i love & admire them for this AND because they are so talented, so good, so beautiful in their portrayal. i have threads/ plots going on with all of them and i can only say i am blessed? duplicate anxiety can be truly hindering, and it feels amazing to be able to explore the same character together with someone else, because not only it is so much fun but also i personally feel like my own writing and understanding of Jon always flourishes with it. also all three of them are such lovely, kind, wonderful souls? i’ll say it again and i’ll say it forever, i am honestly blessed to have them in my life and i am so looking forward for us to keep exploring twin dynamics more and more❤

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Who you ship Jon with, or consider exploring a ship with. Sorry for the confusion!

          no problems friend, thank you for asking actually! i am blessed to have a few good wonderful amazing ship partners right now: @arcusignis, @zcldrizes, @valyrianflame, @tymptir, @crownedclaw, @tyrion, @epheemere, @dcllparted, @fifthbornforrester, @brycecousland, @soleirs, @longmayshereignxcersei, @reekcd, @naathborn, @eversoblack, @deltiitnu, @satincrow — some of them i have been developing ideas with literally since 2017 when i made my blog, some are very recent — but i adore them all to bits and half of me cannot understand how i have such talented people interested on my snowball.

          as for who i’d like to explore a ship with… maybe with Val, considering Jon has a little crush on her in book canon? also i have written Jon & Melisandre with a couple people before and i would love to explore it more especially because i don’t really like the way the show did it. also maybe Jon and Tormund, in show canon? Jon and Gendry? Jon and Pyp? Jon and Brienne? these are the ones i come up with off the top of my head, and i think any of them has potential to be really interesting.