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forcedhesitation · 2 months ago

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It is kind of ridiculous that Wyll is the only companion who can offer to join Karlach in Avernus. I feel like it would have made sense to have Selunite Shadowheart and Minthara offer to go with her as well! In the place of Wyll, I mean, because fuck does that man deserve to REST. And he isn't the only who cares about Karlach! Minthara is literally in love with her, and Larian seems to like suggesting Shadowlach, so why couldn't have Shadowheart have been an option too? In the case of having all four of these characters in your party, the order could be:

Wyll offers to go with her.

Selunite Shadowheart can offer to go in his place, saying he's done so much already. If Wyll's father is alive and hers are not, she could also say how Wyll should take the chance he has to spend some time with his father.

Minthy can offer to go instead of the other two, maybe using her experience as a drow matriarch as a reason for why she'd be the best equipped to protect Karlach in Avernus.

If you just have Selunite Shadowheart, and her parents died, she could say how she doesn't want to watch anyone else she cares about die. If her parents didn't die, maybe that could be the one case where she couldn't offer to go? Or maybe she could still offer to go, and give the reason that she wants to do something that her parents could be proud of? Minthy could still give the same reasoning, because I think it makes a lot of sense.

I would argue that it would make perfect sense for Spawn Astarion to volunteer as well, as there is no sun in Avernus, he can be as much of a little murder freak as he wants down there, and it would really emphasise his personal growth for him to want to protect someone else...but I get that you'd have to change how that whole scene is coded and there are already enough issues with it (particularly with the order of Lae'zel's endings). So, I get why he doesn't exactly work well as an option.

#bg3 #thoughts about media #I want this less because of potential shadowlach/minthlach and more because wyll genuinely deserves a fucking break.#which is not at all to say I dislike any of the ships! I love all three potential pairings here!#er- four. if you count star.#as it stands- I don't think it makes any sense for wyll to just. let karlach die. even if they player tells him to.#if he actually had a properly fleshed out story like the other companions and thus could go thru a corruption arc- sure.#if you had a corrupted wyll then I'm not even sure that karlach would stick around until the final battle.#given that he would likely become more like gortash or that he might even genuinely ally himself with gort.#but that's not the game we have. even after Eight Fucking Patches wyll's existing storyline is still...#...as skeletal as ansur. the bitter irony of that...#of course it would have been cool for karlach to have a full story & bad route too.#the tid bits we get when she's refused the soul coins are so interesting!!!#a bad route for karlach could have mirrored astarion's...since her perspective on the soul coins is similar to his on the other spawn.#anyway. my brutally crushed hopes and dreams aside. wyll deserves a fucking break.#and karlach deserves to have the entire party rush to her aid!#I think that would have better demonstrated the strength of all their friendships.#and I think this of other companion quests too.#for example- I think it's actually fucking dumb that tav is the only one to talk astarion down from ascending.#literally NO ONE wants that shit to happen.#I still think it's dumb as fucking hell that certain companions don't actually turn against astarion for ascending-#-the way they will against a pro-bhaal urge.#like no way would jaheira minsc wyll or lae'zel put up with that shit at all.#the first three for moral reasons. lae'zel bc I do not think that woman would have the patience for AA's attitude.#not that anyone would but lae'zel would definitely do something about it.#and she would be very correct and sexy for doing so.

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