#CAN YALL RESPECT NONBINARY PPL PLEASE
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four-is-the-best-number · 9 months ago
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thats it if i see one more person misgender Two im going to throw up all over the place
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joculatrixster · 4 years ago
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i'm on a complete neutral side when it comes to seamoon. i don't mind its popularity nor its fans, hell i respect the ship because you're right! there IS a lack of w|w rep out there! to me, any w|w rep means i auto support. but i still fear how some of its shippers might attack me if i say i ship sea fairy with a different female cookie (anxiety kicking in lol). and it's also bc seamoon isn't really my cup of tea for some reason?? but that doesn't mean it's lesbophobic lol bc i have like, a ton of other w|w ships from cr (and other franchises) i personally love. it's just that seamoon, like any other ship out there, ended up becoming one of those i don't really vibe with but still respect and acknowledge it exists. but honestly, of all the ships in cr, seamoon will most likely be a canon thing sooner or later. personally, respecting heavily implied w|w ships are enough for me, tho i kinda understand how some ppl would wish for more than just acknowledgement. hope this ask isn't too much of a bother for you, i just feel like putting my thoughts here! please have a nice day or night!
oo ok so ur completely valid! actually i dont personally have a problem with ppl who ship sea or moon with other female or nonbinary cookies as long as they dont shit on seamoon.
honestly? its super fucked up to attack others for that, if u dont personally like seamoon but dont ship them with men then im chill cause like not everyone has to like it even if its canon or has the best chance to be canon! the point of protecting seamoon is because as u said the lack of wlw and the fact that media keeps queerbaiting shit like seamoon were its so obvious that the characters are gay but they dont outright state it ir make them make out on screen so other ppl can pretend they arent, if u acknowledge their lesbians and ship them with othwr women then ur fine completely!! seamoon shippers who attack others based off that r being disrespectful and using seamoon to bring down others, their the reason nonshippers think we're crazy imo, now if someone has seamoon as a comfort ship and doesn't want them separated thats fine but as long as ppl respect the wlw woth ships they can do what they want, within reason of course.
the biggest issue for us is people genuinely see moon or sea as bi or straight and i dont think they understand that while YES just because they love a women canonly doesnt mean they can't be bi or pan the issue is ppl deny the queerness is even there or call it onesided, this is coming from a person who does loath how fandom forgets ppl can like all genders but we NEED to establish the wlw before the wlm in this case because there are plenty of wlm female characters in media but only a handful of canon wlw and the fact seamoon is so obvious yet ppl ignore it means we have to be pushy and put our foot down on shipping either, ESPECIALLY sea, with men.
also ur no bother at all! giving ur insight is fine i like talkign to ppl about why certain discourse sucks and seeing new opinions, at the end of the day my opinion is this.
lesbains are constantly erased or used as sex objects in media, the fact that this kids game has 2 of its most important characters as 2 women in love is important, acknowledging their love is important because its rlly quite blantent imo and NOT SEXUALIZED, shipping either with men perpetuates that clear lesbian coding doesnt matter because girls need a man ir women loving eachotheris somehow creepy, do not do this even with bi or pan hcs do not, there are OVER A HUNDRED cookies its not thathard to make characters like princess or croissant or blackberry mspec so why do u feel the need to take away the two wlw ppl who are the most close to canon?
ppl generally forget how much lesbian eraser there is out there and seeing how some of yall treat seas love for mooncalling it onesided or creepy just because ppl cant understand what pining is id say those ppl dont actually care about representation for wlw if they find ppl wanting the HEAVY coding to be respected too annoying.
now all this being said i again want to make it clear, i dont condone harrassment, and i definitely dont candone threats of any kind, seamoon fans CAN be toxic i know, but those ppl do not devaule the center point, if ur soured on the ship cause of that thats fine ship them with other nonbinary or lesbain cookies or not ship them at all ur in the clear to do that but do NOT take that as a queue to be like fuck the lesbains and ship them with men, i do not care how much fire wants moon in his pants hes bi shes not end of story.
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littlebabycrybtch · 4 years ago
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bro why tf are ppl still mad about bi lesbians lmfao. like,,,, ? who the fuck fucking cares they arent ‘hurting anybody’ just bc yall ignore their arguments over and over like whiny willfully ignorant babies that doesnt make you right kjsdfkljsdf i mean on a real note, bi lesbian was intended for split attraction which is a thing whether you pathetic cruel idiots get with the program or not like ok keep whining in bratty g*tekeeper language its not slick, but also there are. plenty of technically ‘nonbinary’ genders that still somewhat align with fem or masc so. you can literally be attracted to multiple ‘fem’ genders which would make the term bi lesbian a fucking reasonable one if you care abt respecting nonbinary ppl at all. idk its just..... its so annoying that yall Always, ALWAYS literally just wanna assume anybody who has an idea different than you about identity, Their Own Identity, has to be insane and stupid. they just have to be wrong abt it and not thinking clearly or w/e if they have an identity you dont get within 2 fucking seconds. like... bro, ofc you arent gonna get it right away u need to listen first, stop being defensive when u dont get smth instantly and be a regular adult and make your next step listening with the actual intent of understanding it. i mean. ppl are different from you, get over it, the world is truly So much easier to navigate when you unbreak your funnyman social media rotted brain and realize. people almost always have reasons for things. the things they do and say have thought and experience behind them, it just differs from yours. to presume you know more abt somebody bc you think what they call themself is weird is just... so fucking entitled and childish lmao, they obviously have given it more thought than you have, why on earth would you be so full of yourself to assume you not getting it means they failed some thought process and not you??? ppl have reasons and their reasons typically make sense if you just gtf over yourself and listen. the fact that it makes a lot more sense to them than it does to you is simply bc, idk if you’ll believe this but, they are them and you are you. literally, move on and get over it, why do yall always choose to care abt absolutely worthless to worry about non-issues like discourses that are literally almost offensive to care abt from the sheer amount of WASTED TIME AND ENERGY that could go to ACTUAL activism, why do yall complain so much abt nothing while ignoring real problems. are you just that bored and shitty at the same time i fuckign-- “oh but the cishets” GIRL!!! KILL THEM!!!! IF THEY WANT TO OPPRESS AND HURT YOU BC OF THE MOGAISE AND THE TWOCYUTES AND THE ASPEXIES OH MYF UCKING GOD KILL THEM THEYRE EVIL FOR HATING THOSE GROUPS TOO AND IF THEYRE SUPPOSEDLY HATING YOU MORE BC OF THEM OH MY GOD THIS IS A MATTER OF FIGHTING OPPRESSION THAT U NEED TO FOCUS UR ENERGY ON!!! FIGHT YOUR OPPRESSORS AND FIGHT THEM HARDER FOR DARING TO GIVE YOU DEMANDS BEFORE YOU RECIEVE THEIR RESPECT, DONT GUSSY UP YOUR COMMUNITY FOR THEIR LIKING YOU LITTLE BITCH, TONGUE OFF BOOT PLEASE LMAO ... i fucking HTAE WHINY LITTLE G*TEKEEPERS OH MY GODDD WHERES THE BRICK THROWING ENERGY GET OFF TWITTER YOU COPYHETS, CISHETTIES NOT UNDERSTANDING US WITH THEIR TINY LIL MINDS IS GOOD IT MEANS PROGRESSION ADMKSJFLKASDLKSDJFLKSDF HOLY SHITD YALL
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