#I heard that in 4 chapter snowgrave have continued...

[tenyardstowitchyard]

What will YOU choose?

I still haven't play new chapters myself, cuz i am translator for my sister... and also voice actor... My sister and I have already cried a few times... And this is only chapter 3....

(I guess being children of half divorce parents is paying off...in my and my sister tears...)

Also tenna is cool.

[katamari-of-luv]

Every new Spamton Sweepstakes page I've found so far:

(Spoilers if you want to find them for yourself! If I missed something, feel free to add on!)

Clicking the "What's next?" link at the bottom of the main page takes you to /chapter3/, which simply reads "Not applicable." and has an ellipsis for a page title. UPDATE: Holding down the left arrow on your keyboard on this page causes the word "But..." to slide in from the right side of the screen.

Manually inputting /chapter1/ yields the same result (notably without the "But..." -- thank you rollingdanielle for pointing this out), while /chapter2/ reads "Applicable." instead. /chapter4/ has a red pixel slowly fade in at the center of the screen. Clicking that takes you to /chapter4/message/, which appears the same at first glance but actually contains several hidden links under the red pixel:

These link to one of two different six-second audio files: e.mp3 ("fading in" sound effect?) and m.mp3 ("fading out"?). I would love to hear it if anyone else finds a way to translate the "message". The placements of e's and m's don't appear to coincide with either binary or Morse code, but I could very well have missed something. Perhaps something Wingdings-related but I'm only a third of the way done with writing this post and that would be my fifth time pausing to puzzle out this one page. Maybe later.

UPDATE: HOLY SHIT. This comes from convobreaker on Bluesky's very informative thread. The layout of the audio file links correspond to a QWERTY keyboard, and the m.mp3 links match up to letters that can be unscrambled to spell /chapter4/thankyou/. The page is titled "How long did it take her to smile?" and presents you with two boxes to input text and a button to confirm. Pressing it with nothing in either box or anything but a valid email address in the first displays the text "Unknown contact." Pressing it with only a valid email address in the first box gives you the hint "She never smiled?" Filling the first box with an email address and the second with anything at all replaces everything with text reading "Thank you." Presumably the correct answer will send you a response.

On that note, /chapter5/ (titled "back") sends you here:

1 is unclickable, 2 takes you to d.mp3, a six-second drum and organ loop (that I could swear I've heard before-- can anyone identify it?) (UPDATE: Thank you to vividviolence and rollingdanielle! It plays before fighting Berdly for the second and final time in the Snowgrave or Weird Route, and may imply the "Applicable/Not Applicable" text refers to whether a Weird Route is possible in a given chapter.), 3 leads to ma.mp3, a warbling sound effect that fades out towards the end, 4 takes you back to /chapter4/, and 5 is h.mp3, a short acoustic guitar-like clip. It seems like manually inputting any "chapter" pages past 5 only takes you to room-dogcheck (they don't redirect, just display the little white dog).

Upon returning to the main page, clicking the "glitches and secrets Web Ring" banner, and continuing through to the /egg/ page via the "clues" link, a new link can be found embedded in the words "secret cats". /rain/ is another of Noelle's private journal entries, regarding the time she invited Catti over to play a "sillyriffic" Cat Petters minigame together. As per usual, she reminisces on seeing things in video games nobody else is able to replicate (but suspects Kris of knowing about it this time?) The "try it yourself" text leads to a playable version of this minigame at /rarecats/. The green dancing cats bouncing around the screen award points when clicked in accordance with the rarity scale on /rain/. An "angel wing" cat causes a stained glass window to appear onscreen and fade after a few seconds. Clicking that in time brings you to /windows/, a page titled "Aren't you forgetting something?" containing many instances of the same window sprite repeated over and over.

Each window links to a different combination of the same six words. Every page except one brings you to /room-dogcheck/. The correct combination, /lostwheretheforestwouldgrow/, leads to a page titled "ROOTS" which displays a blue tree that slowly floats up and down. It plays a single somber piano note the first three times it's clicked, then sends you back to /windows/.

UPDATE: Thank you to theyloy for tipping me off to this! Clicking the tree three times actually takes you to /window/ with no S. All the windows but one are now scrambled versions of the phrase /thepoorchildren/. Clicking and dragging to "draw" on this page, titled "Therapy", for long enough eventually reveals the red tree the man who gives you eggs hides behind, and clicking that links back to /egg/.

And last but not least, there's a new clickable area in /ramb/. The red desk at the front of the swanky, inviting green room now leads to /romb/, a silent set of wooden doors with the page title "No one will shed a tear for him." Clicking on them plays a door-opening sound effect and causes the screen to go black for a moment, then this text appears:

The text cannot be highlighted, and clicking either of the empty spaces plays the ma.mp3 sound effect associated with Chapter 3 via the /chapter4/message/ page discussed earlier in the post. This is wholly conjecture, but it may be of note that the spaces appear to be the right size to contain the word "egg".

UPDATE: Thank you once again to rollingdanielle! After clicking the door, but before the text appears, you can ctrl+A to click an invisible button floating around the screen. Doing so changes the page title to "You can never defeat us!!! Let's rumble!", plays ma.mp3, and then redirects to /chapter3/. This text could possibly be used in the Lanino and Elnina fight, as the speaker refers to fighting alongside at least one other person and "rumble" could be a pun on thunderstorms.

With that, I've listed off everything I know! Again, you're welcome to reply or reblog with anything I may have missed. Just one more month and Deltarune will be Tomorrow...

[sharoo]

Why Snowgrave Exists

Chapters 3 and 4 have

My questions really started after watching this video:

I don't necessarily agree with everything posited in the theory (i honestly have come to abstain from Gaster theories until we get anything more concrete, as the man is so enveloped in fanon that it's very easy to forget what is actually factual about him and assign his name to unnamed voices), but it did help answer my question as to why the Sword route exists.

Because the Sword route made no sense on its own to me. I played full pacifist, haven't even touched the fight battle until it was forced upon me. I haven't even looked in the direction of Snowgrave in any save file.

Yet here was this hidden game which clearly references the route with the presence of the ice mage. At first I thought this was a call out to the players because LBR you'd have to have lived under a rock for the past 4 years if you haven't heard of the weird route in chapter 2.

But in universe it made no sense. Unless the game Kris is playing isn't reflecting our actions as players, but something else.

As SpookyDood observed, chapter 4 is really setting up 1. the existence of a seemingly unchanging prophecy and 2. Susie being a rogue element potentially able to change fate.

Because it's pretty apparent Susie is not part of the prophecy. The "girl monster" looks way more like Noelle, and the prophecy in Susie's Sanctuary is out of order, leading her to wrong conclusions.

Not to mention that during the secret boss against Gerson, where he:

Talks about the story that inspired Dragonblazers (Deltarune's in universe game often used for metatextuality) and how not only did DB rewrite Lord of the Hammer, LotH was already an interpretation, a rewrite, of the prophecy of the Delta Rune.

Compares Susie not to one of the heroes, but to a dragon, a side character.

Points out LotH had a total of 5 chapter plus a 6th one he did not write. Deltarune being 7 chapters long points to the fact we may be able to write another one.

Outright tells Susie she bears the pen with which she could write light into darkness.

Susie is not bound by the prophecy and thus can still attempt to change fate. I think the story will focus on that - on the fact that, if there is a set, singular ending, some people will still fight for change. And maybe that's enough. Or at least an ending doesn't have to be an ending if you continue after that.

But that's one route. We have two. But if there is only one ending... why does Snowgrave exist as an option?

I doubt something so major and so dark would exist just for the sake of being spooky. The routes are way too emotionally resonant to be a creepypasta without consequence. Chapter 4 allowing you to follow it up indicates it's not just a weird one-off.

What is the purpose of the player choosing to hurt Kris and Noelle?

Well, I think Snowgrave is what happens when you obey the original prophecy. It's the route in which the monster, human, and prince of the dark become strong and do battle against darkness, suffering something in order to reach a conclusion.

Even if none of them want to.

Kris is reduced to a vessel, to the point of often having their voice stolen and will overwritten and being forced to hurt one of their oldest friends.

Noelle's choices are taken away as she's forced to become strong. To find LOVE, not love.

And Ralsei, who outright states in chapter 4 that he hoped the prophecy could be changed if he acted kind? Has to just accept nothing will change and stop acting against it.

Snowgrave is what was suppose to happen before Susie entered the story and disturbed everything. I can't yet say if it's wholly defeatist or trying to outdo the prophecy by making Noelle strong enough to overcome even that (looking at the theory that the pure crystal - which needs to be combined with the thorn ring to presumably create some powerful weapon for Noelle - might be crafted from purified shadow crystals, thus requiring you to face powerful opponents and become stronger, as well as discover the nature of reality).

But it feels like the original route we are swearing away from through Susie.

So yeah.

[twist-is-not-sane-lol]

Since so many people have a fanmade weird route variant, might as well join.

It's called SugarSong/Forced Friendship.

It's a K_K-centric route because I like tormenting my comfort characters. SCC are siblings in this AU.

To start the route, Ignore every NPC except K_K. You don't have to buy his CD bagels, you just aren't allowed to buy them from Cap'n. You can't talk to anyone who isn't K_K, so ignore the other NPCs as well, You MUST talk to K_K every time you see him. Next, when you get to the battle, have Susie constantly use rude buster on both Sweet and Cap'n. Doing this about 4 times(2 on each) will end the battle, causing this interaction:

Sweet: "I don't feel to good..."

Cap'n: "Same here man, battles done."

K_K: "Oh no! Yes, let's go home!"

Once this happens, continue as normal(Without talking to NPCs. Scripted events don't affect this.) up until you reach Sweet Cap'n Cakes shop. Enter the shop. Everything is normal aside from the fact that the Auto Axe is replaced with a new item, the DigiScarf(They don't wanna sell an Axe to a girl who beat them up with one not to long ago.). Go to the talk section and click on the new dialogue option simply labeled "Cakes," Although dialogue implys that Kris is saying "K_K is my favorite." K_K reacts very positively towards this, thanking Kris while beaming. Sweet and Cap'n, despite seeming a bit jealous, simply talk about how K_K is pretty cool, not pushing any further. Leave. afterwards everything will continue as normal until you fall into the garbage dump. There you see K_K humming a quiet tune to themself and smiling. Talking to him, he will mention how he decided to go for a walk, but now he's a little lost. Ralsei will invite him to stick with the $!$! squad(Or whatever name you picked for your team in chapter 1, I just used that because picked it.), to which K_K agrees, as he likes how kind Kris was to them back in the field. K_K will always appear in the garbage dump, but will decline the offer if you didn't follow the exact instructions. Once K_K is in your party, he gets unique dialogue when interacting certain things. Such as laughing when you interact with the Egg plant that looks like a trash bag, feeling bad for trashy when Susie and Ralsei ignore him, and stuttering when meeting Nubert(He's starstruck OK?), Etc. When Susie and Ralsei leave, K_K stays behind. "Don't worry! I'll stay! We're friends, aren't we?:)"

Some important battle info:

Default Armor: Golden Bracelet

Default Weapon: NewCD

K_K has multiple spells:

K-Action: How K_K ACTs by himself, like with all Characters. Does not cost TP.

SilkMilk: Heals the entire party. costs 16% TP, 8% with BrokenCD

RockABye: Puts TIRED enemies to sleep, similar to Pacify & SleepMist. Costs 50% TP, 25% with BrokenCD

TastyBeats: K_K's equivalent of IceShock, killing/paralyzing enemies using powerful sound waves. costs 16% TP, 8% with BrokenCD.

SugarSong: K_K's Equivalent of Snowgrave . Fatal towards target, Causes user immense physical pain while being used. Costs 200% TP, 100% with BrokenCD.

Anyways, Now that we've heard that, let's continue with the route.

Continue with K_K, using TastyBeats to kill enemies. During this, K_K's smile seems to falter. After killing 10 enemies, K_K asks Kris a question

"...Why are we doing this again?"

After the question, you are given 2 responses. "Self Defense" & "We're friends, Right?" You must click the second one to progress through the route. Upon asking that, K_K says yes, and you are given 2 more choices. "I thought so" & "Friends do what friends want." You must click the second option once again. K_K look hesitant, but agrees. The only friends he ever had were his brothers, and they always listened to him. Surely it's a normal thing. Surely friends always listen to each other. Continue killing enemies until you reach the Addison from Snowgrave. They'll mention how they have a great gift for a pair of friends. This is the CentreCD. It will always be $1 more than the party has. Consistently pressure K_K into stealing it, until he stops protesting. The screen blacks out and you get the flavor text "the music sounds uneasy." shows on screen. When the screen lights up, the CentreCD is in the inventory and the Addison is gone. The front of the shop looks like it had been burnt. K_K looks uneasy, and when the CentreCD is equipped, he's silent. Continue through the route like normal, killing all enemies you encounter. K_K is no longer smiling and walking a lot slower. His battle sprite is now almost completely still and he rarely talks. Upon killing enough enemies, walk back. The boxes where Sweet Cap'n Cakes are in the normal game is replaced by an empty room with a broken CD. Equipping this for K_K will lower his HP down to 55 and he responds will a verbal "Ow" and an uncomfortable buzzing sound. Then walk back, killing every enemy you may have missed until you get to the room where the Berdly encounter would normally happen. This time however, it's Cap'n and Sweet. The beginning of the encounter goes something like this:

Cap'n: "K_K! There you are!"

Sweet: "We've been lookin' all over for man! We need to get home.

Cap'n: "Yeah, some psycho is going 'round and killin' everyone!"

K_K: "..."

Sweet: "Hey, uhm, everything alright man?"

Kris/Player: "Friends do what Friends want."

K_K: "...What?..."

The player repeats the sentence, with K_K becoming more shaken and desperate each time. Eventually Sweet and Cap'n butt in.

Sweet: "Look... We don't know what's going on but,"

Cap'n: "No one, messes with K_K like that."

Afterwards, a battle starts, with K_K becoming panicked. Like in regular Snowgrave, you need to max out your TP to use their new ability, SugarSong. K_K will not do anything during the battle. Not listening to anyone. He's in too much pain from the CD and too much distress with the current situation. Once your TP is maxed out, click on it. K_K will look at the ground in distress. The interaction goes like this.

SugarSong

"What?..."

SugarSong

"...N-No, not them..."

SugarSong

"I don't wanna hurt them..."

SugarSong

"..."

SugarSong

"..."

Friends do what Friends want.

K_K looks at the ground, before casting the spell. The Screen blacks out and the Flavor text reads "And suddenly, there was silence."

When you can see again, Sweet and Cap'n are nothing but piles of scrap metal and K_K is down(Reread the description of SugarSong). Interacting with K_K says "Put the scrap away?" You must select yes. The screen fades out and back in, now with K_K gone. Checking your items shows an unnamed object with the description "A friend. Fast asleep."

The rest of the route continues like a normal route, mainly due to the fact that there's no reason for any major changes. A few lines will be different but most things stay the same.

In the lightworld, there is a cassette player and speaker lying on the ground. interacting with them says "Broken beyond repair."

Back in castle town, Sweet Cap'n Cakes place won't be there, for obvious reason's, but entering Kris' room, K_K will be curled up in the corner, asleep. Interacting with him says "Goodnight Scrap friend"

[jujyfru1t]

Hello. How are you and your health? Well... in general... I wanted to ask a few questions. 1 - When did you learn to draw and why did you want to do it? 2 - What are your favorite hobbies? 3 - When did you get to know Undertale and Deltarune? 4 - What are your favorite characters of these two games? 5 - How do you feel about such ships as Asrisk and Krilsei?

Hi there! I’m well and I hope you are too. I’m.... not entirely sure this ask is meant for me-- I can’t draw at all!!! Haha, but I do really want to learn.

1. See above XD

2. Besides reading and writing fanfic? I’m a big gamer/Nintendo nerd. I also like to play the piano sometimes, mostly video game music~

3. I first played Undertale in the summer of 2017, after hearing about it for ages. It was on a special sale with the soundtrack-- I only got the game itself on steam and regretted not purchasing the soundtrack the moment I heard the Ruins. It quickly became part of my top 10 games ever. As for Deltarune.... I think I followed every cryptic tweet until it was released and downloaded it the second I could, given my adoration of Undertale! still haven’t finished chapter 2. fun fact I have DR on my laptop and my Switch; I’m planning to continue DR’s version of Pacifist on the latter and attempt Snowgrave route on the former, uh-oh.....

4. ah shoot, a tough question... honestly, Asriel, Frisk and Chara are my beloved kids ;_; Mettaton’s a close second fav. but I love everyone so much it hurts to choose!!! Same with Deltarune but also: SUSIE SUSIE SUSIEEEEEEE~ Next are Ralsei, Noelle, and Kris in roughly that order :DDD

5. oh gosh I love Asrisk/Friskriel, and Krilsei is ADORABLE HELP-- however, I’m in polyship hell, so I ship every combo of Chariskriel and the OT3.... and every combo of Kris/Noelle/Ralsei/Susie and the OT4 *wheezes* and I ship Mettaton and human!Flowey with me shhh

Thanks for the ask! ^0^