#Lmk celestial primates

[violetjedisylveon]

Older gay monkeys*

*i know one of them is an ape

Tongbei Yuanhou(left) and Chikao Mahou(right) are the first celestial primates.

They are much older than Wukong and Macaque. And they're just a gay but much healthier about it.

When the pillar of creation first broke, all the chaos that flooded into the realm needed to go somewhere so boom, you got a gibbon made from the waters flooding the realm and a mandrill made from fires. They literally popped into the end of the world and had to deal with that on their first day of existing.

They are much less problematic than their youngers, they're still nuisances, but they aren't nearly as destructive about it. And they have more useful powers.

Mahou did a lot of work in the underworld cause they're powers are basically being socially aware and a good judge of people. And not dying.

Has knowledge of yin and yang, Understands human affairs, Is adept in its daily life And able to avoid death and lengthen its life.

Yuanhou did work in the celestial realm as basically a glorified moving man, he just moved shit around.

Seize the sun and the moon, Shorten a thousand mountains, Distinguish the auspicious from the inauspicious, And manipulate planets and stars

They knew each other before they started their respective jobs because they came into existence the same day and immediately clocked that they're a pair. Somewhere along the line they found themselves in a romantic relationship don't ask them how, neither of them know.

They are on good terms with most people, mostly because they aren't nearly as annoying as their disaster gay youngers, and they like to hang with Buddha cause they don't got much to do that often, their nominal bosses would like to have a word about that but never get their attention long enough.

Buddha sent them to oversee Macaque after his fight with Wukong during the journey, they were basically his parole officers guiding him away from revenge and towards self improvement. Cause they ship the disaster monkeys and need them to talk shit out. It worked and they get a niece out it.

They've been chilling since they let their kids take over their duties, their kids are better at it than they are anyway(cause they actually do it). And now they spend their time hanging with their buds, making Mount Everest taller, and watching their favorite gay monkeys be not disasters and functional for once. (they'll be back to disaster gay status soon enough)

They show up in chapter 13 of Little Star, and I finally got character art done before the chapter they first appear in.

I based Mahou's design on a mandrill even though most of what I've seen is him as a baboon, because mandrills have brighter colored face masks in the references I was looking through. Yuanhou's mask is an upside down five points star because of his whole moving celestial bodies thing.

Yuanhou is also the only one who is not a monkey, he's an ape and therefore the reason why they are celestial primates and not just celestial monkeys.

Cracked Family AU Masterpost

[lululocomo]

Will we ever get to see Chikao and Tongbi in the new past? 🥺👉👈

sadly not in this AU😔 perhaps only as a little cameo, just one of them passing by, says hi and go back doing whatever they were doing. I did make their designs! (I love make characters design-)

Chikao goes from city to city, and exchange a lot with people, whereas Tongbi travel the world as a nomad and only goes in little village. I'm thinking of adding them to another spin-off of "the new past" tho👀

[lazyraton]

Baby Celestial monkiesss

The Earth

The Stars

The Moon

The Sun

The white furred one belongs to OOMF Oh_Gh0st on twt(the long armed gibbon)(AKA Yue Se the most gorgeous Monkie I’ve ever seen)

The one on the very top is minneee, Chikao Mahou, the Red Bottomed Horse Monkey. He’s my baby<3

[somedorkthatdraws]

"Brothers, not bound by blood but by the bond that holds them together."

I've been wanting to make my own version of the Celestial Primates for a while. I really like the idea of these four having a brotherly bond.

(Their designs are still in the works. These are just some very rough ideas.)

(Well I do believe that the other three monkeys are an aspect of Wukong's mind, that doesn't mean I dislike the idea of these three being their own separate beings. We'll just call this an AU lol)

[journeytothewestresearch]

Hello, may i ask if you have any info on why the four celestial/spiritual primates were translated into english as such? Because the original term buddha used was "hunshi sihou" which im pretty sure literally means "four primates of havoc/chaos"

I can only confidently speak for myself: I often saw people asking for info about the "Four Monkeys" on the internet, and since some of the creatures are described as small apes, I opted to call these powerful beings the "Celestial Primates" in my article. But I do note the correct translation in the first paragraph:

That article gets a lot of views, so perhaps this is why people often call them the Celestial Primates now.

As for actual translations, the W. J. F. Jenner edition translates them as the "four kinds of ape that cause confusion" (page of 809 of this PDF). That's close enough.

The Anthony C. Yu (2012) edition just calls them the "four kinds of monkeys" (Vol. 3, p. 115). I'm not sure why.

[deadlandsqueen]

I did indeed forget to link you guys my latest animatic ^^"

But I do wanna share my dumb little ideas. I was a bit busy but I had this waiting to be done once I finished stuff so pros and cons ^^

If you do wanna see behind the seens I do have a patreon for behind the scenes look on things Patreon

[min0na]

Lately I’ve had a bald Wukong in my head

[marshalforgotten]

Since this is out on DA. I figured I would share you all this bit of Flower Fruit Mountain as well. There is definitely a few things I can improve on, but overall I am satisfied showing off Macaque's skills. <3

[quitealotofsodapop]

Celestial Water Monkeys

Was discussing in the notes of this post with @silverlycanthropelover about the possibility of Celestial/Stone Monkeys surviving the Great Flood by adapting to the sea.

One of the jokes is that "Sea Monkeys" (the frozen brine shrimp toy), are actually a misunderstanding of sea dragon records talking about the little mer-monkeys that inhabited their seas.

Basically

Ao Guang: "What are those things hiding in your mane?" Ao Shun, surrounded by tiny mermaid-like monkeys: "I dunno man, they just showed up one day, and they won't stop picking through my fur." Ao Guang: "Why haven't you scared them off?" Ao Shun: "Honestly? They are pretty adorable. They clean my body of parasites, and comfort me when I'm feeling unwell." Sea Monkeys: (*happy chirping + porpoise-like squeaks!*) Ao Guang: "They do seem very useful... How do I go about hiring them?" Ao Shun: "I believe you cannot choose them brother, they choose you." (*cut to hundreds of years later when Ao Guang is lying at the bottom of the East Sea, despaired at the loss of his youngest pup Ao Bing*) Sea Monkeys: "Chirrp?" Ao Guang: (*looks up to see a swarm of brightly-coloured mer-monkeys, all swimming around his gigantic body as they pick off the barnacles and parasites that settled in his depression.*) Leading Sea Monkey, petting the king dragon's face with sympathy in their eyes: "Chirrrrp." Ao Guang: (*smiles for the first time in weeks*) :')

Like pilot fish to a great white, the smaller creatures stick to dragons in a symbiotic relationship. The royal dragons are very protective of their monkeys. Ao Guang refuses to acknowledge the irony of a Stone Monkey being one of his greatest annoyances, whilst tending to his beloved servants.

Wukong has no idea that these little spiritual monkeys exist! To think that some Stone/Spiritual Monkeys survived the Great Flood by changing their whole biology, or existed even beforehand, is an amazing discovery!

The Water Monkeys are a lot smaller than Wukong or Macaque, being roughly the size of tamarins. They don't speak "human" languages very well, their vocal cords are more attuned to the calls of dragons and other sea life. They can still chirp and chatter as monkeys do, allowing for some delightful conversation between the Stone Monkey King (they do not recognise Sun Wukong as their king) and the school of excited fairy-like monkeys.

[aereuss]

I remember once finding the reference of this guy in Pinterest (It was in a bad quality then-)

yet I finally found the one who made it, so decided to post it as a gift to the creator (@cupofadonis) Since I ate that design up real good/pos

(He's the sassiest man in town~ 😈)/lh

[violetjedisylveon]

Shadowpeach Family AU Meme 5

writing gives me meme ideas

*Yuanhou is the Long Armed Gibbon and Mahou is the Red Bottomed Horse Monkey, Macaque is okay with Yellow Tusk, it's not great, but not terrible.*

I thought it would be funny to have Macaque know the other celestial primates and Wukong be confused af when these two show up at his house.

So they are besties and currently placing bets on how long it takes Wukong to realize that they are besties. Once he does they plan to go on double dates and trade stories of all the shit they've been up to.

Yuanhou and Mahou have been watching the development of Shadowpeach for the longest time. They have seen so much of it.

I hc that Yuanhou uses his arms the same way Plastic Man does cause, it's funny. I don't have a better reason, I just think it'd be funny. He will just drop stuff off on FFM from his home by just stretching his arm all the way over there.

[3m0t10nal-cr1s1s]

The Four Monkeys of Havoc!!!

I don't really have refrences for them but headcanons are below :) The next part of the Macaque comic is coming soon I just need to finish school first

Them being known as ‘The King’, ‘The Pathfinder’, ‘The Nomad’, and ‘The Warrior’ were the results of them lacking names for a long time, so to refer to them, mortals came up with those titles. Over time, they just stuck. They have never called each other by those titles

In fact, if you asked Chikao or Tongbi, they would never call Macaque a warrior, he was just shaped into one over time. The only one of them to ever call Macaque ‘warrior’ was Sun Wukong, but it was more joking, affectionate. The same goes to Macaque calling Wukong ‘king’

Each monkey has names they either picked out or were given by people close to them.

Our widely known and hard-headed Stone Monkey, Tianchan Shihou, also known as Sun Wukong (孫悟空) was named by his first master

The wise and knowledgeable resident Mandrill, Chikao Mahou, named themself Guo Minzhe (郭民喆) after centuries of going nameless

The small and cheeky troublemaking Gibbon, Tongbi Yuanhou, was named Yan Shihua (严世华) by a martial arts sect that took her in

And our most beloved and cunning Macaque, Liu'er Mihou, who has recently chosen to once again go by Mou Zhouyue, (牟卓月) a name he picked out for himself… in a byegone life

Both Sun Wukong and Ao Bing suffer from scopophobia, but it affects them differently

Wukong's is more akin to stage fright. It doesn't really affect him on the daily but he freezes up if he knows he's being watched by a large group of people and doesn't really like being in crowds but can handle it more often than not. This fear stemmed from his fight with Macaque, where they battled through all three realms, watched by celestials and demons alike. The thing that cemented this fear was when Sun Wukong dealt the killing blow, it being witnessed by the pilgrims, Guanyin and the Buddha, who all knew to some degree how dear and close Macaque was to Wukong

Ao Bing on the other hand can't stand being in crowds or being stared at by people unfamiliar. His fear stems from two places. First was his death, where, after his spine was ripped out, a crowd of villagers started to gather and watch as Nezha held Ao Bing as he was dying. The second incident was when he was on trial for being revived. At his sentencing, he was bound in chains and made to stand in the middle of the court while his fate was decided, under scrutiny of all sorts of deities. It did not help that his oldest brother, Ao Jia, was in the court, there to banish Ao Bing from the East Sea following orders from their father

I was actually thinking of making Macaque's name Ziyue (紫月) '紫' meaning purple and '月' meaning moon, but it's way too on the nose for me and also sounds way too similar to my own name, using the same character I also used to use to write it with, sooo no thanks haha

All four monkeys come from different types of rocks, so technically they’re all stone monkeys, but Wukong is the only one who is actively called that. The other three go by the species they each are

Wukong was formed when a piece of mylonite, a metamorphic rock, somehow found its way to the surface of Flower Fruit Mountain, probably as a result of earthquakes

Chikao came from a pumice stone, an igneous rock, that emerged from under the ocean

Tongbi was born from a sandstone, a sedimentary rock, that formed after a series of volcanic explosions

And Macaque fell from the sky in a meteorite, a primitive rock and the secret fourth type. What was the meteor made out of? Where did it come from? Who knows? (Does he count as an alien then??)

They also were each born in the above order. Yes, Macaque is the youngest

In terms of species, Sun Wukong is a macaque. His fur used to be a lighter yellowy orange before he got all burnt up by the cauldron

Sun Wukong glamours away everything he deems imperfect about himself to try and come off as untouchable and invincible

Chikao and Tongbi are both nonbinary, but Tongbi chooses to use she/her pronouns

While Wukong and Macaque are definitely the most scarred up out of the four, the scars that Chikao and Tongbi cover are more… close to home in a sense?

There was a long period of time where Chikao removed their voice box in order to stay silent for their meditative journey, learning to communicate in other ways. It’s back now don’t worry

And Tongbi chooses to cover the brand of the martial arts sect, where she still has people she considers family and doesn’t want them to be hurt if she ever gets into trouble

Macaque and Wukong are mated. However this is a closely guarded secret, no one really knows outside of the four of them, though I think other demons might have a clue

Tongbi likes to get into trouble, but mostly harmless things like pranking little kids and throwing mean vendors for a loop by stealing and hiding their products. She doesn’t dare do more since… well she’s not looking to be put under a mountain

Only Wukong and Macaque have the long tails most people picture when hearing the word monkey. Chikao does have a tail but it’s super short. Tongbi doesn't have a tail at all. Technically, she is an ape, not a monkey

If you’re wondering why Sun Wukong’s ‘real name’ so to say is Tianchan Shihou instead of Lingming Shihou, it’s what he prefers (Trans SWK real to me)

Chikao and Tongbi have different sets of skills compared to Wukong and Macaque. Chikao isn’t a very good fighter but is well versed in trickery and spiritual power. Tongbi is incredibly strong and quick on her feet but lacks more magical abilities

Chikao and Tongbi are both travellers. A long time ago, Tongbi had actually invited Macaque to go travelling with her but he refused the offer

Chikao and Tongbi have not set foot on Flower Fruit Mountain in a long time. The last time they were there they paid respects to Macaque and his grave

Neither of them hold any grudges toward Sun Wukong for Macaque’s death or Macaque for trying to disrupt Sun Wukong’s journey to redemption. It’s not their place

I don’t think I’ve ever said anything about it, but the reason I draw Macaque with the white in his hair is because of LBD’s lingering corruption, popular consensus in the fandom I think. None of his glamours work on that patch of fur. He keeps a (less severe) scar over his eye because he thinks it’s cool

Also as a result of LBD’s corruption, the right side of Macaque’s body is noticeably weaker, though he hides it well

The reason Chikao glamours themself to have less yellow in their fur is so they won’t stand out too much

Macaque has a fear of dogs. Specifically hounds

Wukong suffers migraines from time to time as a result of the circlet and LBD’s mind control

That's all I have on them for now. Maybe I'll do Rumble and Savage next cause I just fleshed out their lore

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[peachburger]

More of the primates!

I had another draft that I was working on yesterday- but now I finished..the clothes aren’t that good I know 😅 but hey I’ll figure something out as usual

[ep2nd]

@remy-a

Don't have specific theories but here's some I like and/or made myself

- Macaque's creator is the Wind, or how I call them, the Winds of the World

- The other 2 Celestial Primates, Baboon and Gibbon, are older than Wukong and Macaque and have lived another life time before them

- Erlang Shen was probably sent on a mission far away so he doesn't know what's happened, I'd like to think he's on Vacation, but with Wukong once again chasing trouble and Heaven in danger, seems unlikely he'd be on vacation without anyone trying to get his help

- Okay this is a long one- back in the Spider Queen special when the gang went to Heaven and it was weirdly empty- I feel like someone on the inside, Heaven, knew what they were doing and cleared most of Heaven to help them

- Same as above, mostly, I feel like that same person ordered the noodles in Seaspn 1 a Hero is born. 1, PIF hadn't tried Pigys Noodles till later in the season, Redson only cared about 'His moment' in freeing his father and probably wouldn't order noodles in case that's ruined, the Bull Clones can't eat what's the point, and FINNALY, Wukong didn't know MK so how could he just order noodles specifically for MK to be there?!

Just feels like someone's been helping the Gang since the beginning

And my theory is that it's the Gold Star of Venus

Why?

The only member of Heaven to usually have a brain cell qnd voice of reason, 2, he's helped Wukong and Tripitaka before, 3, he's weirdly been absent, especially in season 4 considering he's the Jade Emperors assistant

- Oh and also I think Wukong didn't know Nuwa created him till Season 4

[thedangoratio]

Tongbi/bei Yuanhou!!! Should I make a Chikao Mahou (Red-butted Horse Monkey/Baboon) design too?

[noodlecatt467]

I could not get this interaction out of my head where the baboon would immediately assume Wukong and Macaque are a couple and them just being very confused when Wukong says that’s not the case

You know those two people that obviously love each other and everyone knows it but them,yeah that’s FFM with these guys, and they are over it

This scene is hypothetical and I have yet to decide whether it’s canon to the CelestialPrimatesAU comic

Also the grey monkey is the solder that rides with wukong on the cloud in the AU comic, I named him Wei,he has anxiety and I love him