#MANIFESTING MORE DEMIGOD MOMMY ISSUES ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
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thinking more thoughts about Messmer’s role in the story… looking at the descriptive text again,
“The Land of Shadow. A place obscured by the Erdtree. Where the goddess Marika first set foot. A land purged in an unsung battle. Set ablaze by Messmer’s flame.”
this could imply that the land of shadow was the place of Marika’s first conquest on her path to total dominion.
again, I believe Messmer’s dialogue implies that Marika is his mother:
“Mother, wouldst thou truly Lordship sanction, in one so bereft of light?”
since Marika is the one who, through grace, guides the Tarnished on their path to Lord, to me, she is the only person who is in a position to “sanction Lordship.” so it makes the most sense that Messmer is speaking to her. there’s also of course the M naming convention amongst Marika’s children, the fact that Messmer sits on a demigod-style throne, and his resemblance to Radagon.
the fact that Messmer is notably absent from the rest of the demigod legends in the lands between, and the fact that his flame “set ablaze” the lands of shadow, makes me think that long ago, he may have assisted his mother Marika in her subjugation of the shadow lands… and when Marika left, she left him there in charge, and this is why he has no presence in the lands between.
interestingly, the lands of shadow seem to be full of symbols heretical to the golden order, such as the bear with red hair and omen horns, and the lion dancer boss, which has omen horns sprouting from it. what if the lands of shadow became a sort of dumping ground for the beings that ended up falling outside of Marika’s perfect order, and was severed from the lands between to try to contain the chaos of that place?
then there’s Messmer himself, with his “traitorous” snakes and his flame and his allusions to dragons… what if… he started out serving his mother Marika, but became disillusioned with the fact that she left him alone to preside over the exiles of her perfect domain? that she abandoned him, while she and her other children live in her perfect realm of light? what if he became twisted and corrupted, betraying his original purpose, and he now acts as a tyrant? what if he’s almost jealous of the tarnished, who seem to hold his mother’s favor, while he has stood in the erdtree’s shadow for millennia?
#elden ring#shadow of the erdtree#marika#queen marika the eternal#messmer the impaler#MANIFESTING MORE DEMIGOD MOMMY ISSUES ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️#theres still a ton of unexplained details this is by no means a complete theory i just think it would be neat#really fits thematically with the stories of the other demigods and their relationships with marika/radagon
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